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Findings on Air France Crash Released

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LE BOURGET, France (July 2) -- Air France Flight 447 slammed into the Atlantic Ocean, intact and belly first, at such a high speed that the 228 people aboard probably had no time to even inflate their life jackets, French investigators said Thursday in their first report into the June 1 accident.
Likening the investigation to a puzzle with missing pieces, lead investigator Alain Bouillard said that one month after the crash, "we are very far from establishing the causes of the accident."
Problematic speed sensors on the Airbus A330-200 jet that have been the focus of intense speculation since the crash may have misled the plane's pilots but were not a direct cause, Bouillard said, while admitting that investigators are still a long way from knowing what did precipitate the disaster.
"The investigation is a big puzzle," said Bouillard, who is leading the investigation for the French accident agency BEA. "Today we only have a few pieces of the puzzle which prevents us from even distinguishing the photo of the puzzle."
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The plane was flying from Rio de Janeiro to Paris when it went down in a remote area of the Atlantic, 930 miles off Brazil's mainland and far from radar coverage.
The BEA released its first preliminary findings on the crash Thursday, calling it one of history's most challenging plane crash investigations. Yet the probe, which has operated without access to the plane's flight data and voice recorders, appears so far to have unveiled little about what really caused the accident.
The speed sensors, called Pitot tubes, are "a factor but not the only one," Bouillard said. "It is an element but not the cause," Bouillard told a news conference in Le Bourget outside Paris.
Other elements that came under scrutiny in the immediate aftermath of the crash, such as the possibility that heavy storms or lightening may have brought down the jet, were also downplayed in the BEA's presentation.
Meteorlogical data show the presence of storm clouds in the area the jet would have flown through, but nothing out of the ordinary for the equatorial region in June, Bouillard said, eliminating the theory that the plane could have encountered a storm of unprecedented power. Other flights through the area shortly after Flight 447 disappeared didn't report unusual weather, Bouillard said.
"Between the surface of the water and 35,000 feet, we don't know what happened," Bouillard admitted. "In the absence of the flight recorders, it is extremely difficult to draw conclusions."
A burst of automated messages emitted by the plane before it fell gave rescuers only a vague location to begin their search, which has failed to locate the plane's black boxes in the vast ocean expanse.
The chances of finding the flight recorders are falling daily as the signals they emit fade. Without them, the full causes of the tragic accident may never be known.
One of the automatic messages indicates the plane was receiving incorrect speed information from the external monitoring instruments, which could destabilize its control systems. Experts have suggested those external instruments might have iced over.
The Pitots have not been "excluded from the chain that led to the accident," Bouillard said.
Analysis of the 600-odd pieces of the jet that have been recovered indicate that the plane "was not destroyed in flight" and appeared to have hit the water intact and "belly first," gathering speed as it dropped thousands of feet through the air, he said.
He also said investigators have found "neither traces of fire nor traces of explosives."
Bouillard said air traffic controllers in Dakar, Senegal had never officially taken control of Flight 447 after its last radio contact with Brazilian flight controllers at 1:35 a.m., and it wasn't until up to seven hours later that flight controllers in Madrid and Brest, France raised an alarm. He said the delay was being investigated but was not a cause of the crash.
Some members of the crash victims' families said that without a clear cause to blame the accident on, the interim report held little significance.
Marco Tulio Moreno Marques, a 43-year-old lawyer in Rio de Janeiro, lost both his parents in the crash. He did not bother watching the French investigators' public presentation, saying that without the black boxes, he was skeptical of any findings investigators present.
"I think it is difficult that they will ever find out what happened," he said. "They can say a flying saucer hit the plane, but if they don't find the black boxes we will never know for certain what happened."
Kieran Daly, editor of Air Transport Intelligence, said that although investigators seem to know very little about what happened due to "a horrendous lack of evidence," it is significant that the plane landed the right way up.
"It suggests they were in some kind of flight attitude," he said.
But he warned that "without finding the black boxes it's going to be phenomenally difficult, maybe impossible, to determine what happened."
Bouillard said life vests found among the wreckage were not inflated, suggesting that passengers were not prepared for a crash landing in the water. The pilots apparently also did not send any mayday calls.
He said there was "no information" suggesting a need to ground the world's fleet of more than 600 A330 planes as a result of the crash.
"As far as I'm concerned there's no problem flying these aircraft," he said.
Air France said all elements of the investigation "will be fully and immediately taken into account by the airline" and that it is continuing to cooperate with the investigators with "a commitment to total transparency with regard to the investigators, its passengers and the general public."
The black boxes — which are in reality bright orange — are resting somewhere on an underwater mountain range filled with crevasses and rough, uneven terrain. Bouillard said the search for them has been extended by 10 days through July 10. He said his investigation is currently scheduled to run through Aug. 15.
Bouillard said French investigators have yet to receive any information from Brazilian authorities about the results of the autopsies on the 51 bodies recovered from the site.
Families of the victims met with officials from BEA, Air France and the French transport ministry before the report was released. An association of families addressed a letter to the CEO of Air France, Pierre-Henri Gourgeon, demanding answers to several questions about the plane.
Investigators should have an easier time recovering debris and black boxes in the crash of a Yemeni Airbus 310 with 153 people on board that went down Tuesday just nine miles north of the Indian Ocean island-nation of Comoros.
Vandore reported from Paris. Associated Press writers Cecile Brisson at Le Bourget, Angela Charlton in Paris, Marco Sibaja in Brasilia and Bradley Brooks in Rio de Janeiro contributed to this report.
Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. Active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.
2009-07-02 09:58:44

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06:35 PMJul 05 2009

I posted this before here and I will post it again! The radio show of Michael Savage reported that five days before the crash AIR FRANCE RECEIVED A BOMB THREAT!! ---------- What about what was reported in the media about a week latter THAT TWO OF THE PASSENGERS ON THE PLANE WERE ON THE LISTS OF WANTED TERRORISTS!! --------- Will this be another government cover up like what happened with TWA Flight 800 and with the bombing of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City in the mid 1990's???

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06:32 PMJul 05 2009

The mid 1990's: In the evening of July 17th, 1996, TWA flight 800: New York to Paris, left JFK with 230 people. 11 minutes latter, the plane exploded. ----Nearly 200 people, both on the ground and pilots in the air, claimed seeing a bright red streak of a rocket shooting toward the plane. Also, the local Air Traffic Control reported that its radar showed a blip that hit the plane before the blow up. ----There were thus theories of terrorism, but the most plausible is that this was a tragic error of "friendly fire": The US military had been testing there, and a malfunction made the test rocket go to the TWA plane instead of the set target. ----The government negated all this. Interviewed witnesses were said to be drunk or stupid and were told: "You really didn't see a missile!" The Air Traffic radar report was quickly retracted. The official explanation was that it was an fuel tank malfunction. ---- (see http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/twa.html)

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The mid 1990's: At 9:02 in the morning of April 19,1995, a massive truck bomb exploded at the front of the Federal Building in Oklahoma City, brutally massacring 168 people. Over 20 people saw two men setting the bomb, one of whom was identified as close associate of Saddam Hussein. The FBI thus put out search & arrest bulletins for "John Does 1 & 2 -- MIDDLE EASTERN MALE(S)." ----These bulletins though, were quickly withdrawn. Soon, a Mr. Timothy McVegh was arrested and was declared to be John Doe 1. It was further declared that there had never been a John Doe 2. A Mr. Terry Nichols was also arrested as being McVegh's assistant. McVegh and Nichols were militia people who vehemently hate the federal government. Thus the media purported the danger posed by these fanatic right wing groups. ----Mr. McVegh was tried, convicted, condemned to death, and in 2001, quickly executed. Mr. Nichols was given life in jail. ----(See: http://www.jaynadavis.com)

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05:35 AMJul 05 2009

I think there is EVERY reason to ground the Airbus planes until the speed sensor difficulty is fixed, and until more information is discovered about the cause of the wreck. I do not think its terrorism, as no evil group has been bragging about slaughtering the passengers; I find it extremely hard to believe that two pilots decided to commit suicide and kill all the passengers too; and it sounds like the passengers were drinking cokes or whatever and munching on their "meal" of a bag of nuts right up to the moment of the crash. When the Concorde crashed, all Concordes were immediately grounded - but there were a lot fewer Concorde planes than there are AirBus planes. Grounding AirBus planes would cause immense difficulties for travelers and of course AirBus, and should just be for a limited time until known defects are fixed, as well as any newly discovered defects.

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12:27 PMJul 04 2009

Having experienced the atrocious and woefully sub-standard pilot training offered by the mega-consortium Airbus, I am shocked that their airplanes aren't falling out of the sky like rain drops. With the exception of major components such as engines and navigation equipment provided by US manufacturers, the Airbus family of jets are flimsy pieces of junk just like their aircrew training programs. Happy flying!

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This very morning ( And I am sure many mornings to come) I am in great dismay. Why? There are still many many Airbus manufactured flying about, some again, some not which doesn't seem to really have a factor, the age of the craft, in the recent rash of their going down with all lives lost on board. As I stated yesterday: Please, ask your airline what type plane it has in it's ..Employ for lack of a better word and do swithc airline carriers if Airbus Aircraft are all they have to offer. This is not just some fluke, this is becoming to be a trend which will only increase over a matter of time. How I see it. From problems with the iced over 'pitot' tubes, fly by wife avionics with hundreds of lives at stake if one of or all 3 or 4 back up computers should fail simultaneously, the plane JUST CAN'T FLY as there is no input to the flight control surfaces!!! In effect, you are in an airbound aluminum beer can filled with volatile jet fuel just waiting to make a nice round hole in the ground ...

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If you want to see pictures of the debris from the 757 go to: www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/911_pentagon_757_pl... - 102k

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