
Big pickup for the Giuliani team yesterday:
Fiscal conservative Steve Forbes on Wednesday endorsed former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani's bid to become the Republican nominee for president in the 2008 race for the White House.Steve "flat tax" Forbes is best known for a surprisingly strong showing in the 1996 campaign in the GOP nomination. He is best known for his daring proposals for the flat tax, health savings accounts, and fiscal discipline. He is the a good spokesperson for the economic conservative wing of the Republican party. With the social conservatives apparently split between McCain, Romney and Giuliani (or waiting for Thompson), the economic conservatives are a huge swing group.
Forbes, chief executive of Forbes magazine who unsuccessfully sought the Republican nomination in 1996 and 2000, is considered a leader of the party's pro-business and tax-cutting wings.
"He is the man who can lead America in a world that is uncertain, fight the forces of evil and at the same time increase economic opportunity here at home," Forbes told a press conference.
Rudy has a shot at capturing these folks who are the more libertarian wing of the party. If he does he will be in an even stronger position. The other nice thing for Rudy about this group is that this is the group that includes the business side of the Republican party and among their other attributes, they have a lot of the money


Reader Comments ( Page 1 of 1)
1. Rudy flip-flops on flat tax, McCain almost switched parties and Romney relying on Strom Thurmond's ghost on http://www.solidpolitics.com
Bill at 10:41AM on Mar 29th 2007
2. Being called good for economic opportunity here at home is just what the doctor ordered. I assume there are ways the President can help the economy despite the Fed working against it.
Steve Bonomo at 6:00PM on Mar 29th 2007
3. RUDY IS NOT THE MAN TO BE A PRESDENT, HE DIVORCED HIS WIFE FOR THE ONE HE HAS NOW, THIS IS HIS THIRD MARRIAGE. IF HE CANT KEEP A MARRIAGE TOGETHER HOW CAN THIS MAN RUN A COUNTRY. WONDER HOW MANY TIMES FORBES HAS BEEN MARRIED, MAYBE FORBES IS RUDY NEW BROTHERINLAW, HE HAS ONLY BEEN A MAYOR OF NY, HILLARY WOULD MAKE A BETTER PRESDENT
CONNIE CHAFIN at 11:50PM on Mar 29th 2007
4. Fiscal conservatism and Republicanism = oxymoron!
Steve at 9:42AM on Mar 30th 2007
5. Dear AOL: Why does anybody care who Jesse Jackson is going to vote for?
exreno at 3:59PM on Mar 30th 2007
6. rudy is the guy,period. i live in ny and know what he did. most of yoy idiots who do not live in ny have no idea how he turned a ciyt in dispair to a great city to live in.he will do the sme thing for the country.obama has turned nothing around and hillary is a clone of her husband.if barry bond had 3 wives would thatmean he could not hit home runs. if i have to answer that
deena at 3:38AM on Apr 3rd 2007
7. Rudy is what he is.....an immoral, corrupt politician. The only thing that saved his ass from political obscurity (and possibly prosecution)was, unfortunately, 9-11. He's not "America's Mayor." America's Mayor is the man or woman who runs the show day-in & day-out with morality and ethics in any number of small towns throughout this country. Rudy is definately not one of them. I like alot about what Steve Forbes stands for, but I disagree strongly with his endorsement of Rudy. Steve Forbes is a die-hard capitalist (which is a great thing for our country), but I question his moral compass when he endorses a man like Rudy.
Kyle Baxter at 4:41AM on Apr 2nd 2007
8. I am 63 yrs. old. Recently actually in early December I fell down the cellar stairs, hit my head and woke up in the hospital. Luckily I had health ins. I was in for about 3 wks. I had 3 cat
scans and the normal 3 meals a day and 24 hour nurseing. OK, 3 wks. the bill was $250,000 that to
put it kindly is outrageous. I got a bill from 1 doc, a psych for $450, I called his office
his nurse said it was for.."1 hour of consultation"
my wife was in the room at the time she reminded me."he only shook your hand and asked, how are you? $450 to shake my hand? Do the numbers, if he shakes 20 hands in a day.hmmm.9 grand? OMG bottom line, he was from India, the U.S. taxpayer probably paid his education, I asked him.
Why did you not stay in India where they need you more than in the U.S.A.? He gave me a blank look,
wonder why? I now pay $1800 a month for healthcare
the A.M.A. wants us to believe socialized medicine you have to wait weeks for treatment. I have several friends from England and Germany, they tell
me,"if you get hurt in an accident, you are treated immediately" or need stiches because you cut your hand cutting onions,they work on you right away. The only time you have to wait is for say a boob job or a nose job, thats it. We need socialzed medicine in this country!!! Last time I voted Democrat was for J.F.K. now I will vote democrat again. They are the only party advocating
it. Republicans are in bed with insurance companies and the A.M.A. I pay over $21,500 a year
for health insurance, if taxes go up? So? I bet my tax does not go up 21.5K a year. Hey people, think about it.
ernie at 7:07AM on Apr 2nd 2007
9. Racist extraordinaire!
Mr. Mike at 8:34PM on Apr 11th 2007
10. Lawrence Ray, Hero
The Federal Government OPR, is in the process of overturning the “noted conviction” of Lawrence Ray.
Nonetheless, sticking to the facts that have been out, Berard Kerik has been offered two years in prison as a plea deal, Kerik was arrested, charged and indicted in June 2006 in the Bronx. I’m sure you saw it in the news that other charges are coming out in the future in addition to what you are reading.
Obviously, everyone in the world sees factually that he is a criminal.
Doesn’t it make you wonder when you look into the record of the past, Kerik has criminal involvement as a teenager in Passic, there is in public record ties to organized crime in the 80’s. Kerik was kicked out of Saudi Arabia framing a Saudi doctor and they were kicked out of their own country.
Additionally, there is a public record of DEA doing several investigations into Kerik and his partner Jerry Spiezile for taking money on drug raids when they were attached to the DEA Task Force. Kerik is a high school dropout and Phil, I am sure you are aware there are far too many other incidences of Kerik’s wrong doing to speak of. It does not beg any question in this instance, most people that I’ve spoken with are stunned about how glaringly obvious that it was no secret to people like Guiliani. Why would R Guiliani, an accomplished Federal Prosecutor have picked a man like B Kerik to Head the largest city police dept. in the world as the Commissioner of N.Y.P.D.
As we have been , and did not need 911 to make us suddenly aware, of the existence of terrorism and the threat it always posed to our National Security,
can you stop and think, it is abundantly apparent that R. Guiliani had to have know about all this all along. Nonetheless can you imagine that Bernard Kerik was the very man that our President chose to head the Department of Homeland Security.
Be mindful it was at the request and urging of Rudi Guiliani. As far as I am concerned, whether intentional or mistake it would have been an unforgivable and frightening crime to be committed upon the American public by any president. History would have been looking back at this as left to be as another HUMAN ATROCITY. All of us will never forget the horror of 911. It has brought about changes of everyday life for everyone,
Yet, Rudi Guliani and Bernard Kerik, as all of us are finding out have made and will continue to make extraordinary money upon the souls of the deceased of 911, and the profits are being paid by the pain and hard earned dollars of every single American.
Everyone should stop, reflect and be thankful that one man, Lawrence Ray cared so much about all of us, had the integrity and the immense courage in December of 2004, to step forward with the truth reversing what was at a minimum an irresponsible and horrifying decision of President Bush.
I don’t know if you are aware that is not the first time Lawrence Ray has done something of this magnitude for so many people. It was clearly beneficial to so many thousands of people.
Look back to the recent Kosovo Crisis. specifically at the commitment American Troops and all attempts to stop the bombing as to avoid the senseless loss of live of thousands of American Troops.
Then take a look at the attached Official Letter of thanks from NATO Headquarters that many have seen, thanking Lawrence Ray for his work which had stopped the crisis.
Nanci Franks at 1:15AM on Apr 26th 2007
11.
http://truthwins.info/
DOES ANYBODY CARE?……SOMEONE? WHAT SECRET IS SO HORRIFYING THAT RUDY GIULIANI ORDERED AND BERNARD KERIK CARRIED OUT THE TORTURE AND CHILD ABUSE OF TWO LITTLE GIRLS?
Monday, December 11, 2006
Dear Does Anybody Care?,
My name is Talia Ray, and I am writing to provide a vital part to a case that the court has undertaken involving my parents’ divorce/custody of my sister, Ava Ray, and me. Firstly, it is critical to the reader’s understanding that they are familiar with the more than likely connections Bernard Kerik (former Police Commissioner and Homeland Security nominee) has with this case. The only reason that I am aware of Mr. Kerik as the primary source of the shamelessly blatant corruption in my “complicated” or “special” case, as many DYFS workers and other Somerset County officials whom I have encountered like to call it, is the simple fact that my mother told me of Bernie’s involvement. Threatened me with it, I should say. My mother, Teresa Ray, told me in an argument we had some time around my freshman year of high school (2003 – 2004) that the judge would not allow me to live with my father, Larry Ray, in spite of my age (I was fifteen years old at the time, which gives my desire concerning the issue of with whom I would reside a little more weight.). When I questioned her apparent certainty that I would not end up living with my dad, she retorted in an overly confident tone that the judge was going to do whatever she wanted the judge to do. This outrageous claim was followed with another bizarre statement by my mother that “Bernie is helping her.” Due to the fact that my father does not involve mie in his personal business affairs (and nothing of his business affairs had yet appeared as a public topic of speculation in the media), I was unaware of the implications that statement had. My mother’s seemingly silly threats to have gained the ability to manipulate the Court into straying from truth and justice did not phase me much; I had confidence in our country’s judicial system. My father’s great respect for this country and the government we live under had always made me feel like I was in good hands here in the United States. I have learned that the beauty of the United States Government is that we all are in fact in each other’s hands, and whether those are good hand sto be in is a matter of how willing we are to protect our fellow American citizens and to continually remind one another of the fundamental liberties guaranteed to us by the U.S. Constitution. I am writing this letter in an effort of self-advocacy; I hope that you, reader, will help me advocate for myself. It is my well-being and my six year old sister’s well-being that have been put on the line here.
My general complaint is simply this: My constitutional rights, as well as my father’s and my sister’s, have been infringed upon by the Somerset County Court. Consequently, my sister, Ava, and I have been caused severe emotional pain and the inexcusably drastic upheaval of our lives. My father spend six months in federal prison for failing to respond to a court order mandating the transfer custody of my sister and me to DYFS – a court order neither he nor his lawyer was ever served; I was forced to spend ten months isolated in a homeless shelter, and my sister was placed in the custody of our mother who sexually abused us both. We were all robbed any opportunity to maintain our close relationships with one another. Why?
More specific to this particular letter, I intend to address the fact that Somerset County Court cut me off from any contact with my father. This intrusion by the state upon the personal familial relationship between my father and me was abrupt, unfounded and unconstitutional. I would like to remind the Court of that which Justice O’Conner stated in Troxel v. Granville 527 U.S. 1069 (1999) speaking for the Court,
The Fourteenth Amendment provides that no State shall ‘deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of the law.’ We have long recognized that the Amendment’s Due Process Clause, like its Fifth Amendment counterpart, ‘gaurantees more than fair process.’ The Clause includes a substantive component that ‘provides heightened protection against governmental interference with certain fundamental rights and liberty interest’ and ‘the liberty interest of parents in the care, custody, and control of their children – is perhaps the oldest of the fundamental liberty interests recognized by this Court.
Smith v. City of Fontana, 818 f. 2d 1411 (9th Cir. 1985) recognizes that “the constitutional interest in familial companionship and society logically extends to protect children from unwarranted state interference with their relationships with their parents.” Therefore, it would only make sense for any U.S. Court on the state or federal level to have issued a court order removing me from my father’s custody after a strictly scrutinized interest was substantiated by indisputable evidence proving abuse or neglect by my father. This interest of the court should have been made apparent via record of fair trial out of respect for Due Process Rights before any restrictions were placed on my relationship with my father.
However, this is not at all what took place. The only explanation DYFS has been able to give me as to why my relationship with my father has suddenly become something I am not allowed to have is that the judge was concerned he might “brainwash” me. The thoughts and feelings I express are the same as those I expressed while living with my father. After being isolated from my father for an entire year plus, not once have I said a singly thing contradictory to what I’ve been saying all along – my mother is a disturbed woman, and while I am finally ready to come to grips with the sexual abuse I suffered by certain members of my family on the maternal side (including my mother), I simply do not feel that attempting a relationship with my mother would be at all appropriate for me. All I want to do is to be living with my father again and for my sister’s complaints of sexual abuse to be paid attention.
It’s obscene that my sister’s safety should be so ignored. It does not make any sense that allegations of brainwashing should keep me completely from my father, while allegations made by my sister herself of sexual abuse do not keep my sister from living with my mother when she did not even want to live there in the first place. If she feels more comfortable living with our father, she should be able to do that. He’s an amazing father. I only wish that more kids had a parent who makes them feel as special as my father makes us feel. And as for my father’s supposed knack for “brainwashing” me, - If the consistency of my perspective throughout this tumultuous ordeal does not prove it to be a perspective all my own, then I do not know what will. All I have to offer is the truth. Plain and simple. Courts, lawyers, state officials… they can all pick it apart and challenge it as much as they’d like, but when it comes down to it – the truth is one thing you cannot manipulate. Only people can be manipulated.
Please, do not allow yourself to be manipulated into forfeiting freedom to corruption in the single governing body under which are all united. Do not let fear oppress liberty. I understand that many people who have been involved in dealing with my case have been victims, too. I would like to take the opportunity to make it clear that my goal is not to avenge them. My goal is to show them. The only proper thing to do now is to show the truth to those people who have been deceived, and to show what is right to those people who have done wrong. As Benjamin Franklin once pointed out, “There is no kind of dishonesty into which otherwise good people more easily and frequently fall than that of defrauding the government.” The evidence of this corruption is all there. I just need someone to help me get my voice heard and to encourage others involved to stand up to it.
Sincerely,
Talia Ray
louisisbad at 1:16AM on Apr 26th 2007
12. Gary Hart, April 29,2007
Your letter is a responsible and refreshing stride toward the truth. There are "many truths" along the path in a journey of this nature. Where one stops as the destination is a matter of intention. To those who are unaware and believe what they are told, often have no means of knowing whether it is the whole picture or the real truth.
The fact is that Rudy Giuliani is a criminal and a member of a criminal enterprise. Others involved in the enterprise are President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Bernard Kerik and too many to mention in this letter. They did not want to stop 9/11 they intended to let it happen, then profit from it. Giuliani is one of those who made enormous profits in the first Twenty Four Hrs. Those involved already effectively owned the stock of select companies, which would be selling technology and related products/services post attack. Members in "The Criminal Enterprise" had been paid well before 9/11. Americans were sold out in a sinister plot, which transacted its early deals in the Middle East by Dick Cheney and others, years before the Clintons stepped foot in the White House. Bernard Kerik and I met in what seemed unintended in 1995 in a Luncheonette in N.J. It was not an accident on the part of Kerik and others. By 1998 Kerik asked me to be his best man. An important step in their plan in 1998, which has now failed. Their advance planning techniques are effective to most. "Plausible deniability" being the single most frequent trait in a simple pattern. A common calling card when any bright prosecutor is an active criminal disguised as a prosecutor. When they could not buy me or my services they decided to ruin my credibility, starting by framing me in a Federal indictment in March 2000, based on a report by Bernard Kerik's best friend special agent Gary Uher who I briefed on their criminal activity in 1998.
For many years I have been working to expose the truth, in an effective yet responsible manner about Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, kerik and a criminal enterprise. Objectives being to prevent as much of the harm and damage to our country and to see these reprobates brought to Justice. The record of my work in this regard is clear. I am the one who exposed Giuliani and Kerik In November 2004 to the N.Y. Daily News reporter Russ Buetner. No one else did. They subsequently attacked my two minor daughters, Talia and Ava in a gruesome manner. They got my ex-wife to go along because she coincidently had her own tragic-secret to hide so it served her purpose.
Included in the more than 2,600 audio recordings I made of conversations with others, I have recorded Government officials saying they were told "it is the republican party Line to destroy Larry Ray", before I exposed Giuliani and Kerik in November 2004. Why would they want to do that? I agreed to work with the New York City Department of Investigation on the Kerik/Giuliani investigation Dec 20, 2004. Walter Arsenault had contacted me after I put out the news in Nov/Dec 2004. It seems D.O.I.was actually a "Trojan Horse" intending to do damage control, find out what evidence I had, secure it, bury the investigation, bury me and I can prove exactly that. Where were they before I gave it to the Daily News? These criminals fleeced New York on the watch of The First Deputy Commissioner of New York City's Dept. of Investigation Walter Arsenault. During the 2 yr investigation Walter Arsenault was in regular communication with the Bush White House. Being that Kerik had to step down after being nominated by President Bush to head America’s office of Homeland Security, why hadn’t the F.B.I. launched a thorough investigation? After all, it involved National Security, it involved the President of the United States, it crossed state lines and it happened in the White House. I believe the jurisdiction belonged to the F.B.I. Seems Federal to me. Why wasn’t the president outraged and responsible enough to order the F.B.I. to investigate? What was the Attorney General of the United States thinking ? Is Antonio Gonzales even allowed to think ? How come Gonzales did not take action? What about Vice President Cheney’s take charge personality? Cheney may have been to busy, maybe aboard the Sequoia with Greenspan as his guest.
The F.B.I. is the best Investigative Law Enforcement Agency in the entire world in my opinion. I have worked with the F.B.I. on and off for twelve years and have experience with different agencies in various parts of the world for twenty-six years. The men and women I have worked with are honorable, bright, dedicated and well trained. They were told to stand down regarding Giuliani/Kerik. Not what these men and women wanted to do. Instead an agency in N.Y.C. did the investigation.
Had the D.O.I. done their job in the nineties, Giuliani and Kerik would have never been thru the gates at the White House, they would have been behind the gates of a prison. If others and I were aware, so was Walter Arsenault.
We had been working in the Eastern European Region and in 1994 it became clear to me that there existed a very dedicated effort to execute a large scale terrorist attack on the United States. None of us knew at the time in 1994 the attack would come to be known as 9/11. My effort since to expose the truth has been unnaturally difficult, unnaturally long and unnaturally costly. The American Terrorists; the very corrupt Bush/Cheney White House, and many corrupt politicians and officials such as Gonzales, Chertoff, Giuliani/Kerik , and Wolfowitz to only name a few. The ENEMY WITHIN.
My two little girls and I have paid an unimaginable price and still are. Hurting my children is more painful than every other tactic they used to discourage and /or stop me in their effort to make sure I did not expose what I discovered in my work in Eastern Europe during the Bush Sr. Presidency regarding activities of Dick Cheney and others.
N.A.T.O. I had been brought in to the Kosovo Crisis in an effort to avoid the senseless casualties to come in a ground offensive. I feel the Pentagon very accurately estimated anticipated casualties if a ground assault commenced. After I listened to the intelligence briefing the first night I was in Belgium at N.A.T.O. Headquarters, based on my analysis I presented a recommendation, which I believed to be the only available option. All in the room with the exception of Colonel Sponbeck agreed with me and asked how do we implement. I designed and submitted my tactical plan as I saw it. The necessary steps were completed over the next two days and I was then authorized. My first stop in the operation was Moscow. I accomplished both objectives, the cessation of the bombing campaign and mitigate the need for a ground offensive, thus avoiding the senseless loss of ground troops.
I had also been tasked after flight 800 went down while Departing N.Y., to locate and retrieve any of the surplus Stinger Missiles we supplied when we appropriately backed the Mujahidin during the Afghan Conflict. I was tasked originally by the F.B.I. I located and arranged to take that load of stingers out of circulation. There were logistical problems for the Bureau and time not being friendly I completed that task with the C.I.A. I am told it was the largest load recovered at the time, which concerned me since I was tasked due to an emergent need, before that I had never paid attention that program and I would have thought we as a Nation would have been more successful in that regard.
Mr. Hart I presume you have more than enough experience to know that any individual who is capable of successfully attaining objectives as the ones I state in this letter must be regarded in a particular manner to be tasked to begin with. I am and always have been proud of the fact I am an American.
The current exposure of President Bush, Vice President Cheney, and others yet to be named, for lying to the American people about the link between Sadam Hussein and Al queda is directly due to my effort. It is well documented. The Washington Post Easter Sunday Cover Article, about the Bush White House and U.S. Attorney Gonzales knowing in advance about Bernard kerik Rudy Giuliani happened because I gave it to the Washington Post. Take a look at what was going on before and after that article.
Cheney and others are responsible for the murders of United States Marines and other U.S. Military Personnel. How did it get this far?
From President Bush, V.P. Cheney, Mike Chertoff, Bernard kerik all the way down to Judge Thomas Dilts, Judge Julie Marino, Judge Anne Bartlett, the D.Y.F.S office in Somerset County Court, Union County Prosecutors Office, Livingston twp and others in New Jersey will be exposed and charged for their crimes. Then it will be the responsibility of the Justice system in America to administer the law in a balanced and honest manner, nothing less, nothing more. It is of paramount importance to all of us the system do as it is intended in order for our country to begin healing. No witch hunts and burnings, yet no special favors either. All Americans and the entire world are already watching.
Senator Hart, I was aware pre 9/11 of the reports you reference, including briefings with N.Y. Port Authority. Giuliani did do things, one was to build the Ultra Expensive Emergency Command Office in the World Trade Center, just one more for people to ask " how could Rudy have made a mistake like that "? It is simple he didn't make a mistake, it is the same pattern of his advance planning, he intended it to be one of several seeds of doubt to the public, worst yet maybe a jury. The same as asking, how could a man as smart as Rudy make someone who, is as ignorant, has a record of ties to organized crime and as uneducated as Bernard Kerik not only commissioner of corrections but then make him the New York City Police Commissioner? To ask it is to answer it.
It is interesting after I fought alone for so long and have endured so much stating all along that Bush/Cheney wants America to go to war with Iraq for a sinister criminal agenda and finally get it out in the media, now George Tenet comes out stating the same thing. Curious.
I hope some committee is already prepared to plug the wholes in our National Security due to many people who hold positions across the country in Homeland Security jobs as installs by Giuliani, Cheney, Kerik, or Chertoff.
I am confident Mr. Giuliani and others will soon be charged, arrested and in jail awaiting trial for more than just witness tampering. I know, since I am one of the witness's Giuliani has tampered with.
They are guilty of Treason.
I have recently contacted the office of Hillary Clinton since she wants to question Rudy Giuliani in an open forum regarding the removal of the World Trade Center debris. I have not heard back from her.
I have supportive evidence and can prove any of the above. I am willing to speak with you further if you like. You can contact me by email nisacray@gmail.com or can always ask Chuck Pitman, or Jim Jones, two very honorable friends.
Warm Regards,
Lawrence Ray
Lawrence Ray at 3:56AM on Apr 30th 2007