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2. Considering the political situation right now I think Mitt Romney make a wise choice in advertising his presidential bid early on.I look at it as the 'early bird gets the worm' approach and he will reap the end result.He plan his campaing right and very soon the whole Country will know him well.

Realistic at 2:50AM on May 11th 2007

3. I think all of his sons should do the right thing and join the army and go to Iraq but im shure they are just as gutless as he is

gooey miles at 10:07AM on May 14th 2007

4. The MORMON CULT must not win, much less run for office. They are all wicked and evil.

Kathy at 11:27PM on May 13th 2007

5. The Mormon Church is not so much a Cult to be feared as a sinister For-Profit Business Empire whose intent and given purpose is the domination of whjat's left of our economy and their "Missions" ( which are required by all adolescent 'Marmints' in every civilized and other country in the world are also their foothold in the economies and cultures of these states. They arte masquerading as a church but are much Much more Sinister and Dangerous. What they do in this country is put their ilk in every strata of the society Politically ( Orrin Hatch, and on the other side Harry Reid) and many more are 'Marmints'.
Don't dismiss them lightly as a cult. Oh No, they are buying businesses ( Marriott and Hundreds more) with their unlimited monetary required (Church) Tithes from their Members and have been doing so for decades and decades. I know these things from personal experience. Their polygamy and their Bigotry are not that far under the surface and they are not in their past. Southern Utah and Nevada and other places are still outlaw Polygamist cults giving 14 year old girls to the Father of the Family to be wives, bear children and proliferate the Huge families ( all couples are encouraged to procreate prolifically) they proffer. They are definitely not into Birth Control! They are not the tea totaler they would havbe you believe either. They show one side to their church elders and the other to their friends when it comes to drinking and all the other mortal sins they decry. But Mainly they have no ethics in Business. They are in it for the Money & Power over this Government and the rest of Humanity with no holds barred. I know them and you better learn a lot more before voting any of them any more Power. Such as how they became a Church and Organ. Through Murder & Highway (Wagon Train) Robbery. And how after impersonating Indians and killing & Robbing Settlers they Now ( Since the 40s) have taken overt the Indian Tribal Leader Positions through their Phony Religiou$ Conver$ion$ Land Deals for Oil & Gas & now Casinos!! STOP THEM NOW, STOP THEM ALL!

P. at 12:41AM on May 14th 2007

6. Romney is a liar and nothing short of a liar in regards to his Mormon church. But then again, the whole church is built on a lie dating all the way back to Joseph Smith. He was a total liar, a total thief, womanizer and if any of you believe that the Mormons have the same God as Christians, then you should research the church and it's vast financial holdings. Holdings like Frito-Lay, Pepsi, Kentucky fried chicken, Taco Bell, Stuart Andersons Black Angus, Beneficial Finance, Beneficial Insurance, Deseret Industries, Most Drug stores, and on and on and on... Hundreds of billions in assetts to include their temples world wide and more. Now about their God.. They teach that their God has a body of flesh and bones just the same as you and me, came down to earth and had physical sex with Mary who was one of his wifes for eternity and procreated the Mormon Jesus.. Their Jesus was a sinner, was married to many women (that is how they justify poligamy) and was crucified for his many sins including poligamy. Also that his sacrifice does not cover many of our sins. If a person commits murder, adultry, rape, even theft, then the only way that they can attone for their sin or sins is to have their throat slit. Period ! That is in the teachings of the Church, was taught from the pulpit of past presidents (in the Journal of Discourses) That their god has literally millions of wives in heaven with whom he is having perpetual sex to produce "spirit" babies to inhabit the babies born on our earth. Thus the Mormon god has a perpetual erection to have sexual relations with his wives to keep enough of them pregnant to keep up with the births on earth. Mormen men to include Romney believes this and also believes he is going to become a god of another world when he dies. If he is a true believer in Mormonism, he has his work he does in the Mormon temple.. Like baptism for the dead, being married for time and eternity. He probably is already a poligamist in that he has been married to dead women whom he believes he will raise up as young women when he becomes a god.. The Mormon church is no more Christian than the Ayatolla Komeini was Jewish. Romney should first of all be honest, but again, Mormons are all Liars and dishonest. I had one who workd for me who robbed me of over $250,000.00 in money and merchandise and then ran to Canada.. I know many. They believe there are three levels of heaven and no hell. The third level has three more levels. The first level is where bad people are sent, the second is where non Mormon good people go, and the third level is where Mormons go and they can work their way up to the final level which is becoming a god. I could go on and on and on about their Church that is not Christian and their god is not like the Christian God and my God..

Michael at 6:23PM on May 14th 2007

7. Comments from Kathy and Michael are all wrong.I studied to be a Mormon at one time.They are wonderful people.You are always going to find a few bad apples in any basket.You can't judge a whole church on a few bad apples.Romney is a brilliant moral man who will make a great President.Michael has the religion all wrong.They believe in Jesus son of God born of Mary. Just as JFK said when people said America would never elect a Catholic to the White House:"I will not be a Catholic President of the United States,I will be the President of the United States who happens to be Catholic."Romney will be the President of the United States who happens to be Mormon.The liberals(Democrats) have a few Presidential candidates that really scare me and America should be concerned..research my friend...

sue price at 9:10AM on May 14th 2007

8. Kathy, P and Michael’s ill informed and ignorant rants speak much more to their bigotry and hateful agendas then to fact or truth. These fanatical right wing tirades against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints are not the issues of this campaign. Mitt's values, ethics, past business performance and leadership success should be the focus of this campaign. The church has always withstood this kind of twisted anti LDS propaganda and despite it has flourished around the world because of the truth of its Christian message. Despite intellectual neophytes like these vial spuing non-Christian practicing, self aggrandizing haters the church will continue to grow because of the truthfulness of the message it offers to individuals and families of faith. As the American public get to know Mitt the man, and more about the teachings of the LDS church, informed people of conscience will judge Mitt on the content of his person and ability to lead this country and less on the twisted tirades of ignorant fanatics. The upside to these religious attacks is that more people will be exposed to the LDS church and those members who practice it’s teachings. As this happens good people will be influenced by what they see in practice. “By their fruits ye shall know them” This statement will hold true for both Mitt and for the LDS church. The LDS church does not promote any candidate or party and maintains neutrality on political issues that do not threaten it’s moral teachings. Despite it’s right to support moral issues the church encourages its members to vote their conscience and does not tell them how to vote the issues. This hardly sounds like an organization that is trying to take over the government or to control it’s president. Just as JFK vowed, and demonstrated his separation from the Catholic church’s dictates so will Mitt follow his own moral compass drawing from his skills and knowledge base to best lead this country through these difficult and trying times. Mitt’s business and proven leadership skills coupled with his Christian faith influenced ethics and values is the combination of attributes we need in our president at this time.

Ron Jackson at 10:48AM on May 15th 2007

9. I have nothing against Mr. Romney as a good leader and I feel he is highly qualified in many areas to be President.. I also understand why he would lie.. What I exposed will embarass every Mormon out there who lies to us "gentiles".. Yes, gentiles. When they say that our God and Christ is the "same", that is the lie and the truth is very embarassing and they would not want our "Christian" country to know what they teach and believe. They believe they are the only true church and the rest are all apostates.. If you read in the Seer, page 255 in that it teaches that "all other churches are entirely destitute of all authority from god.. the most corupt of all people. Both Catholics and protestants are nothing less thant he whore of Babylon whom the Lord denounces. In Vol.6, p. 167 it says; "we talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsence... the devil could not invent a beter engine to spread his work". Or see Mormon Doctrine, 1979 edition, p.670 where it says; "There is no salvation outside the Mormon Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints". According to Mormon teaching, their Crist is the brother of Lucifer. See Gospel through the ages, p. 15. Poor Ann was apparently only shown what the Mormon missionaries wanted to show her for study purposes.. Meaning the "milk" and not the "meat". If she goes to the trouble and work of studying these books produced by the Mormon Church, then she would be better informed, educated and appalled at how she was misled. The books are; Doctrine and Covenants, Book of Mormon, Documentary History of the Church (7 volumes), Journal of Discourses (26 volumes), and the Pearl of Great Price. There are many other books too. Like the Teachings of the Profet Joseph Smith, Seer, Doctrines of Salvation, and Gospel through the Ages. This is a good one from the "Seer", p. 172. "The great Mesiah who was the founder of the Christian Religion was a polygamist... Both God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ inherit their wives in eternity as well as in time" The Mormon Church and many of it's "Secret" or "Sacred" teachings are not taught untill you are well brainwashed in the church. In the temple they perform many of the same rituals that take place in Masonry. Secret handshakes, promising to have your throat slit from ear to ear if you tell the "Secrets".. the church has much of it's foundation from Free Masonry. Which is also a lie. They do many good works, but the foundation is as evil as the day is long. I would challenge any Mormon out there to deny the teachings in their books that they do not want you to know.. I will finish by saying this that I am in a win win situation in that as a believing Christian I have salvation in both the eyes of the Mormon Church and My church. Specifically; If the Bible teaches the truth as I believe and that my Jesus Christ of the Bible is my savior as I believe then when I die, I go straight to heaven and that is that. Mormonism teaches that after my death I can accept the teaching of Mormonism and work my way up.. So I win either way. Sadly, where our precious imperfect humans who totally believe in the Mormon church are concerned, they are not in a win win position at all. If by chance they are right, they go to their heaven and can later become a god of another world, and if my belief is true and Mormonism wrong, then our Mormon brothers and sisters go straight to Hell. Period.. Thus they lose and have no chance for salvation.. They should read and study carefully the very end of the Holy Bible in that it basically says; If anyone adds or subtracts from the teachings of this book, they are anathema.. or damned.. Period.. good luck Ann in learning what the Mormon Church teaches and believes.. It is not like any other "Christian" church and has it's way of salvation..... works and only works.. So, Mr. Romney, tell the truth about your Church and stop saying that our "God is the same".. It is not sir.

Michael at 6:27PM on May 14th 2007

10. First and formost Mr. Jackson you too are a liar of great proportion. Please do not use the word "Christian" in any way to compare mainline Cristianity with the "cristianity" of Mormonism. As stated in the teachings of your church and referenced above in your books, The crist of Mormonism was married, was a poligamist, had many children, is still alive with a body of flesh and bones like you and me and has wives in heaven with whom he has sex and procreates "spirit babies" to inhabit the bodies of babies born on earth. That is one of the primary reasons that Mormons have so many children.. To have "holy tabernacles" for your crists offspring to inhabit. This is all your churches teaching Mr. Jackson. That is if you are a Mormon. If so, then it is all of your churches own "propaganda" as listed in the last item I wrote and accurately referenced above your blogg. They are all Mormon books and if you want to call them "Propaganda", then so be it. To mainline Christians, what you teach is laughable and how you believe and practice what you to is an abomination. I do not hate Mormons, I feel sorry for how so many can be led astray just like Hitler led so many millions astray. You find it easier to believe a faith that has no hell and salvation comes by works only along with membership in your church. I agree that Mitt is a good businessman, is very moral in comparison to most involved in politics, a good leader and most of all the rest that is positive you said about him.. His lack of honesty in regard to telling the truth about his church and claiming that we (humanity or ?) have or worship the same god or God, or lack of honesty in other areas is the problem.. I would like to see him be totally honest and I think I am asking for too much. Not even his level of high morality is high enough to tell the truh about his church and what he really believes in that regard. I do not think that his beliefs in regard to his church would interfere with leadership of our country..I do believe he could be a great leader and has been a gold leader. I just want him to tell the complete truth. Just like you.. You avoided the truth yourself and made me laugh when you used the word propaganda in relation to what books and pages I used as references.. There is no hate in my heart for the Church and it's people, just pity.. I pity all the souls that are on the highway to hell.. That is why I said that I am in a win win situation.. I will go to heaven regardless of what you believe.. If your churchs teachings are true Mr. Jackson, I get to go to the second level of heaven and can work my way up.. Right? So now Mr. Jackson, just try to be honest yourself and have the guts to verify the teachings of your church without using a bunch of rhetoric to cover up the truth. Another fact that should embarass you and the Mormon Church is your "fruits". Specifically in how your Mormon state of Utah and the Church itself in comparison to all the other states in the Union of the United States, has more child abuse, more spousal abuse, more teen pregnancies, a very high level of abortion, more teen suicide, drug abuse, a higher need for psychological counseling and more of the same sad statistics.. I could go on and on, but what for, if the Church would be honest in the first place, I would have nothing to write now would I ? Good luck and thanks for giving me the oportunity to expose you all the more..

Michael at 2:03PM on May 15th 2007

11. Some of the posts to this blog show just how unintelligent people in America can be and are. If one of you truly new about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints you would understand and know that the Jesus Christ that we profess to believe in is in fact the same Jesus of "mainstream" christianity. You would know that we believe in God the eternal father and in his son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. We believe them to be three distinct personages as individual as you and me. We know that Heavnly Father (God) sent Jesus Christ his very real individual son to earth to teach the people of his day and lay the groundwork for religious followers for generations to come. We know that Jesus went through the garden of gethsemane and crucifixion experience not because of his sins but for all of ours. We believe him to be the only perfect man to ever walk the earth. In my 32 years of attending church I have never heard that he is the creator with many wives of the future sons and daughters of humanity. What I have heard and firmly believe to be true is that the sons and daughters born to this earth are the offspring of a wise and loving heavenly father, God! The members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints have a lot of children because we appreciate the necessity to give our father in heaven's children a good place to grow up in. We believe that they should have every chance in the world to have a loving father and mother from the time they are conceived til the time their parents die. On the ugly subject of polygamy there is a heavy misunderstanding. In 1890 Wilford Woodruff, the president of the church at the time, made it official that polygamy was no longer condoned or accepted by the church. The followers of polygamy today are not members of the true Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They are members of their own sick cult that have no and i repeat absolutely NO ties to the church. Sure they may try to claim they do but the truth of the matter is that they don't. If you will be so wise as to go look up this address: http://www.lds.org/library/display/0,4945,161-1-11-1,00.html you will see in plain and easy to understand/read English how we feel about marriage. This was not said in jest. It is the true and official belief of millions of latter day saints around the world. All fully fellowshipped members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints have but one wife. Have for 117 years! As missionary work is highly encouraged for all worthy males at 19 and recommended for single women at age 21 it is safe to understand and know that we do not make it a practice to marry off 14 year olds. To the contrary we feel it is quite sick. When you mention all of the financial holdings around the world and specifically the United States controlled by "mormons" it is much like has been said by others in the past. The owners of many businesses are owners that happen to be LDS. Do you honestly think that if the LDS truly owned Pepsi as a church they would still allow caffeine to be in the softdrinks? Ah, no! The true church owned subsideraries are very limited. As we are a people who believe in standing on our own two feet the Deseret Industries is a good way to give the less fortunate a way to obtain a skill and income to provide for themselves and in many instances their families. I could go on and on about how off base and invalid some of the above comments and far to widely accepted beliefs about the church are. I will not though. I will conclude by addressing the final topic of the LDS church being a cult. It is actually true that the church is a cult. If you carefully read the definitions given on www.dictionary.com you will find that any religion is a cult. I know though that a lot of the people who deem the "mormons" to be a cult are using the part of the definition that says "followers of an unorthodox, extremist, or false religion or sect who often live outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader". Oh so many points to address in that definition alone! Perhaps I will! The one part of the definition that has no merit is where it says "false religion". One of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints' strongest attributes is that of it living "outside of conventional society". Who do you personally know that abstains from coffee, tea, strong drugs, alcohol, tobacco and in many instances caffeine? Or who do you know that abstains from sex until after a solemn marriage ceremony? Who do you know who abstains from seeking outside entertainment or employment on Sunday? I bet the number of people you know that actually take great pride in doing the reverse is much higher. In that sense I take great pride in my "cult". A cult with high values seems to me to be a cult worth investing time with. Now in summary I would like to let it be known for the record that the leaders of the church do not force the doctrine on us the followers of the gospel. It is 100% personal choice for more members than it isn't. For those that choose that the LDS church isn't for them they often choose to no longer attend meetings. One of the biggest and most important teachings of my and Mitt Romney's church is that every single person on this earth that ever lived or ever will live has free agency to choose for themselves the paths they will pursue. I would highly encourage any of you naysayers to take the time out of your Sunday morning to attend a block of meetings at your nearest LDS building. They are easy to find in the phone book or perhaps in an online directory. Services in most instances begin at 9am each Sunday morning and visitors are ALWAYS welcome! The time is now for you to stop basing your beliefs on what you may have heard someone else say or what you may have read. The strongest teaching of our church is to gain a personal conviction in the gospel of Jesus Christ as taught by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Some of the teachings are too hard to follow just because someone else said you should. It has to be a personal conviction that what you are doing is the true path to eternal life. If you have made it this far I would like to thank you for your attention. I am sure I will have response after response bashing what I have said. Attend a block of meetings before criticizing what I have said. It just shows your narrowminded ignorance if you continue on the words of others. What I have said is what I know to be true from 33 years of personal experience. You might be surprised at how down to earth we as a people are! Okay, enough on the religion thing. Now for Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney was wise to start showing his ads across the country this early in the game. I believe that he will make a great president. I stand behind him saying that it is time for the republicans to unite in the mission to defeat the democrats come November '08. Now is indeed the time to bring a change to the United States. If elected to office the office will belong to Mitt Romney not the LDS church. Electing Mitt Romney is not electing Salt Lake City, Utah. It is electing the great governor of Massachusettes and conductor of the 2002 Olympic winter games in SLC. Should Mitt win election the LDS church will have no more power or influence over this nation than it already has. Thank you.

Jacob at 7:47PM on May 16th 2007

12. Well Jacob, I stand my ground regarding the information I wrote in the prior bloggs. That is especially since the books your church reveres are those referenced, and if anyone researchs them, there will be no questions as to what the LDS Church teaches and believes. The church does not want people to learn the "meat" until they are ready. The LDS Church especially does not want the "Mainline Christian" churches to have the knowledge of what they teach. Only when new converts to the church are very well indocrinated into the LDS church, then and only then will they learn this. That is if those in the know decide to teach it. Just a few references that no Mormon can refute since again, it is from their books and not some other source not produced and used by the LDS church even today....

The Mormon teachings about their "Jesus Christ"; The Mormon Jesus was the result of the Mormon's "God the Father" coming to earth and having physical sex with the Mormon's Mary. "When the virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Spirit" (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, p. 50) "The birth of the Savior was as natural as are the births of our children: it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood- was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 8, pl 115)... "Crist was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers." (Mormon Doctrine, 1979 edition, p. 547)... Therefore, the Father and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been for the time being, the lawful wife of God the Father;..Inasmuch as God was the First husband to her, it may be that He only gave her to be the wife of Joseph while in this mortal state, and that He intended after the resurrection to again take her as one of his own wives to raise up immortal spirits in eternity." (Seer, 1853, p. 158).... Regarding the crucifixion of the Mormon's Jesus; "The grand reason of the burst of public sentiment in anathemas upon Crist and his disciples, causing his crucifixion, was evidently based on poligamy.. A belief in the doctrine of a plurality of wives caused the persecution of Jesus, and his followers. We might almost think they were 'Mormons'." (Journal of Discoursed, Vol. 1, p. 346)..."Jesus was married at cana of Galilee, that Mary, Martha, and others were his wives, and that he begat children." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 2 p. 210)..."..the great Messiah who was the founder of the Christian religion, was a polygamist,.. the Messiah chose to take upon himself his seed; and by marrying many honorable wives himself, show to all future generations that he approbated the plurality of Wives,.. the Son followed the example of his Father, and became the great Bridegroom to whom kings daughters and many honorable Wives were to be married. We have also proved that both God the Father and our Lord Jesus Christ inherit thier wives in eternity as well as in time." (Seer, p. 172)...
Mormons teach that Jesus is the insufficient Savior for individual salvation and his blood was not a sufficient sacrifice to atone for certain sins;...The third article of faith states "We believe that through the atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by oedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel".. That is the Mormon Gospel....See Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.. 1, p. 134 ... Mormon salvation is a salvation by works... "for we know that is by grace that we are saved, after all we can do." (II Nephi 25:23)... "There is no salvation outside The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. (Mormon Doctrine, p. 670)... "No Salvation Without accepting Joseph Smith. If Joseph Smith was verily a prophet, and if he told the truth... No man can reject that testimony without incurring the most dreadful consequences, for he cannot enter the kingdom of God." (Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 1, p. 190)... A claim of Joseph Smith; "I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. a large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a woak as I. The followers fo Jesus ran away from Him: but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet.. When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." (History of the Church, Vol. 6. p. 408, 409)
Jesus blood inadequate for atonement; "Joseph Smith taught that there were certain sins so grievous that man may commit, that they will place the transgressors beyond the power of the atonement of Christ. If these offenses are committed, then the blod of Christ will not cleanse them from their sins even though they repent. Therefore teir only hope is to have their own blood shed to atone, as far as possible, in their behalf." (Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 1, p. 135) That is why the use death by shooting in executions in the Mormon or Utah prisons. .. The sins are murder, adultry, theft, and more... "But under certain circumstances there are some serious sins for which the cleansing of Christ does not operate, and the law of God is that men must then have their won blood shed to atone for their sins." (Mormon Doctrine, p. 92) Further I questioned my ex employee about this since her Mormon son left his wife in Spring Valley Califorina and was living with anothe woman in Canada.. I asked her if she loved her son and if she accepted that he was an adulterer an if she loved him enough to kill him to save him... This is why I asked... "Will you love your brothers and sisters like wise, when they have committed a sin that cannot be atoned for without the shedding of their blood? Will you love that man or woman well enough to shed their blood?... This is loving our neighbor as ourselves; if he needs help, help him; and if he wants salvation and it is necessary to spill his blood on the earth in order that he may be saved, spill it." (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 4, pp. 219-220).. If you Mr. Jacob believe your Mormon teachings are the same as that of Mainline Christianity, then think again and tell the truth.. You should do more research and try this which is proof that Joseph Smith was a false Prophet... He prophesied the next coming of Christ..Joseph Smith instructed the Latter-day Saints that it was "the will of God" to go forth and "prune the vineyard for the last time, or the coming of the Lord, which was nigh-even fifty-six yars should wind up the scene." (History of the Church, vol. 2, p. 182) Eight years later he reinforced this by stating. "I prophesy in the name of the Oord God, and let it be written --the Son of Man will not come in the clouds of heaven till I am eighty-five yars old." (History of the Church, Vol. 5 p. 336) This makes him a false prophet and the Church a fraud... Many good and Godly people let astry for over a hundred years.. When you are taught by your parents something that they believe is the truth, you grow up believing the same.. That is a fact and why the church has grown.. I could write over a hundred pages of non Christian teachings that the Mormon.. LDS Church perpetrates and it is sad that so many people can be led astray to their immortal souls death.. But then, Christ did say that most people are like sheep.... easily led to slaughter.... Please pray for our Mormon brothers and sisters that they find the true Christ of the Bible...Only that Jesus brings us true salvation.. No church brings salvation.. Especially not the LDS Church.........

Michael at 7:26PM on May 16th 2007

13. Michael, I have only one response to your posting. Where did you gather all your information from? Was it from the books themselves or some sort of anti-mormon literature?
Kathy I would just like to know how the church wronged you to make you so full of bitter animosity against it as well????? If evil is abstaining from coffee, tea, alcohol, premarital/extramarital/solo sex is evil I hate to think what the opposite would be.
There will always be unearned animosity towards the LDS church. There always has been. The best a person can do is to try it through personal prayer. Personally it seems to me that with all the bashers out there there has to be some sort of truth to it. Otherwise there would not be such a concerted effort to tear it down. Let alone substantial growth year after year.
When all is said and done it is not NOT the LDS church that is running for office in 2008. It is a man named Mitt Romney who happens to be a member of the church. Once again should he be elected to the office of president the whole church will not have been elected. Just him! His beliefs may suade him one way or another on certain issues but he will not shove the religion on anyone! Should he be elected it will not be round two of nationwide prohibition. It will be business as usual with a great leader. Perhaps the greatest leader to ever lead this country. All 42 presidents thus far have had their follies. Sadly so would Mitt. Not because of his religion, but because of his mortality. Adieu.

Jacob at 9:26PM on May 16th 2007

14. Correction... 43 presidents not 42. This also serves as an apology for my multitude of spelling errors.

Jacob at 9:42PM on May 16th 2007

15. Jacob. I have copies of at least six Books of Mormon to include an original copy. I have many of the books I bought or were given to me at the Los Angeles temple. I did research while my Mormon employee was at my store. I trusted her and truely believed that she was a very honorable person. During her five years of employment with me, she tried many times to prosletize me. I decided to research the Church on my own. I went to the library and found Mormon books to include Joseph Smiths re-write of the Bible.. called the Inspired Bible.. I was able to use many books in the Chula Vista city Library. I have other friends who are Mormon.. Yes, friends.. In my many trips to the temple in Los Angeles, I talked to many men there, visited their bookstore, bought a large amount of books. I was able to acquire books used by some missionaries at that time... Between 1979 and 1985. My Mormon employee had her temple reccomend and did her baptisims for the dead.. Where they take the name of the person who is dead (usually a relative) and are baptized for them in hopes that the spirit of that person will accept the teachings of the Mormon Church and become a Mormon even as a dead person.. So you see, I have studied very much, investigated it very deeply and years later at my church a man from Utah and former Mormon Bill McKeever gave a seminar on Reaching Mormons for The real Jesus and not the Mormon counterfit that you embrace.. I have proof that the book of Mormon has been changed thousands of times. In reading it, I found it to be laughable in many places.. Especially when the mention of glass windows, the use of steel (not iron), and other modern things were claimed to have been used in the time of Christ. Not only that, the part where a cigar shaped vessel that went underwater from asia to the American Continent and the users opened holes while underwater to get air.. Such crap that even a child would laugh. You have to be totally brainwashed to believe the fantasy crap written in the book of Mormon.. I talked to many men at the temple in Los Angeles about how many children they had and if they were proud to provide vessels for the spirit children God is procreating in heaven.. I also shook a woman up at a bank when I read in the Seer about your (Mormon) teaching about Celestial Marriage.. What a bunch of bull.. Your god is a Man of flesh and bones where my God is spirit and not having sex with any brides or wives.. You can deny all you want and that is why I gave references to the information I presented.. How you live with the lie is sad.. How Mr Romney lives with the lie is also sad.. That is the issue Jacob.. simply honesty. I feel that Mr. Romney has the qualities to be a great leader, I just want to see the truth and not the phony face he puts forward.. Like how they say he flip flops.. If he believes in abortion in any way, then he is staunchly against the teachings of the Mormon church and thus cannot be a true Mormon or a true Believer... That is because it is your duty to provide vessels for your gods spirit babies he procreates in your heaven by natural sex.. Thus your god must have literally hundreds of thousands of wives or ? just to keep up with the births on this earth to provide spirit babies for all of them.. That since your books specifically state that it takes nine months for the spirit babies to be born.. So now and again, if Mr. Romney is a true Mormon and believer as you would like to think you are, then you have no choice other than to believe all the bull shit taught by your church.. and about Pepsi.. Hell if you people believed what you say you do, then you would not sell it, carry it in your stores or restaurants or anything.. Your bottom line is $$$$$$ period..!! I have talked to leaders here in the different wards and like I could with you, leave you with your mouth hanging open since I would have the books with me.. I sure piss off your missionaries too.. They cannot argue with the books placed in their hands and aked to read what is in print and authorized by your church.. I too apologize for my many spelling errors.. Be well and may the God of the Bible bless you....

Michael at 6:42PM on May 17th 2007