To 21 percentage points, to be exact, and it seems as though she's gaining. Also, in a head-to-head with Rudy Giuliani, or with Barack Obama, she wins:
Mrs. Clinton would beat Mr. Giuliani by six points, 47% to 41%; Mr. Obama would win by five, 45% to 40%. The results are nearly identical to those in the June poll. The latest poll, of 1,005 adults Friday to Monday, has a margin of error of 3.1 percentage points.
In a three-way contest among Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Giuliani and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg running as an independent, the poll shows Mrs. Clinton winning with 42% of the vote to Mr. Giuliani's 34% and Mr. Bloomberg's 11%. That suggests Mr. Bloomberg -- who hasn't declared his candidacy -- would steal more support from the Republican than from the Democrat.
Again, this is polling done 15-months before the election and the applicable grains of salt should be taken, but the fact that Hillary Clinton is polling so well at this time shows that she has very good advisors and political acumen.
It should be interesting to see what happens should she win the nomination as she has not been anti-war enough for the hard-left (who has?) and they are a large portion of the support she'll need in the general. Will they hold their noses and vote Hillary anyway?
On the GOP side, Fred Thompson is only hurting himself by waiting to announce, the luster has gone off and he may have blown any significant bounce he would have received. It will come down to Thompson and Giuliani and Rudy has run a good campaign to this point (so good in fact that the liberal bastion Vanity Fair has written a hit piece against his wife).
The campaigns, for all the candidates, are constantly changing and the fall/winter months will be the time where they are successful or fall by the wayside. Expect only Clinton, Obama, perhaps Edwards and Richardson to survive through Christmas with Giuliani, Thompson and perhaps Romney on the GOP side. Third-tier candidates like Gravel and Paul may hold on but will be of no consequence except to take up time in debates.
Reader Comments ( Page 3 of 3)
31. Barack Obama just buried himself by saying he would invade Pakistan. That is neither unifying nor a breath of fresh air. I agree that the country needs to be less divided. It seems most people really are moderate but the media just perpetuates the division to such an extreme. It really is quite sad and frustrating.
Carlynn at 9:29PM on Aug 2nd 2007
32. BUSH(VP)-4 years
BUSH(VP)-4 years
BUSH-----4 years
CLINTON--4 years
CLINTON--4 years
BUSH-----4 years
BUSH-----4 years
total---28 years of BUSH and CLINTON!!
HOW CAN ANYBODY EVEN CONSIDER 4 MORE YEARS????
Besides, if Hilary wasn't good enough for her husband (Monica Lewinsky), she ain't good enough for me!!
Dave Martin at 9:50PM on Aug 2nd 2007
33. Dave, Dave, Dave !!! That's a pretty low and ignorant statement. A spouse's philandering is not indicative of how someone would lead.
Carlynn at 10:01PM on Aug 2nd 2007
34. I'm sorry you had to focus on the joke and not the real message. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF BUSH/CLINTON LEADERSHIP!!!!
Dave Martin at 10:09PM on Aug 2nd 2007
35. Well, we'll find out in 2008 won't we ? You may be surprised !!!
Carlynn at 10:16PM on Aug 2nd 2007
36. I WILL MOST DEFINETELY VOTE FOR HILLARY. THIS COUNTRY IS IN A MESS, AND IT WILL TAKE A WOMAN TO CLEAN IT UP, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANOTHER MALE, THAT INCLUDES BARAK OBAMA.
IMAGINE SPENDING MILLIONS IN IRAQ, WHEN CATASTROPHIES LIKE MINN. CAN HAPPEN IN THIS COUNTRY. WE MUST BEGIN TO TAKE CARE OF HOME.
G. FORCH at 10:26PM on Aug 2nd 2007
37. Someone who has great knowledge and wisdom is the hope of this country. Someone like Hillary!!! May God bless the USA again, and give each one clearer and brighter visions in life!!! May the Good Lord sends Hillary Rodham Clinton!!! May others be saved from a sinking economy!!!
tucsonranch707 at 12:01AM on Aug 3rd 2007
38. Remember the French female candidate,before the general election her poll numbers were way up in the top and then reality strike on election day.She couldn't face it any longer then gave a nice farewell speach.Her higher poll numbers didn't give her the job rather show her the back door.
Pen at 12:27PM on Aug 3rd 2007
39. All you republicans need to watch fox news they will say all the things you all want to hear, forget the truth, you wouldn't know it if you heard it. Bush has told so many lies that all you that want to keep supporting him go ahead,because birds of a feather flock together, I'm for Hillary, I want someone that knows what their doing in office, not friends of president bush that have no experience for the job he has gave them. Hillary will be the best choice we have,
tailwinds at 9:00AM on Aug 3rd 2007
40. Some people are concern with how our country is seems stuck with two families ruling us for almost thirty years.We are not far away from being a MONARCHY by rule,as a matter of fact it does look like it and we can see the sign right in front of our eyes.This is a real concern because Freedom we branded ourselves away from the British Monarchy system and in which cause we fight for our Independence.What this mean,it means everyone individual and families are equal,no one person or family have superiority power over other individuals or families.Why did our forefathers faught very hard and gave their lives for, if this is where they didn't envision would take this country in the future.Reality start somewhere and are we not seeing that happen right in front of our wide open eyes.America we either do something or we will end up losing something,lets just hope it's not our rights and freedom to be what we want to become and what we want to have.
True Truth at 2:12PM on Aug 3rd 2007
41. Hillary has done nothing but talk about what others have done wrong. She will not make a good president, she is not a leader. All talk no words.
JeanMeyers at 4:17PM on Aug 7th 2007
42. The A to Z Guide of Clinton Scandals "ONE MIGHT BE A MISTAKE BUT SOMETHING IS REALLY WRONG HERE"
Whitewatergate, Travelgate, Cattlegate and now Indonesiagate . . . there seems to be more gates in the Clinton White House than on the barns of America.
So just in case you've lost track of the scandals that have hit this current White House, The Post's Deborah Orin and Thomas Galvin have pieced together your cut-out-and-keep A to Z guide of Clinton scandals . . from Arkansas to Zippers.
A is for Arkansas, where Bill Clinton got his political start, where Hillary Rodham Clinton worked at Rose Law Firm, and where Whitewater began as a land deal between the Clintons and Jim and Susan McDougal.
B is for Billing-gate, Hillary Clinton's missing law-billing records. Those records -- which raised questions about Mrs. Clinton's role in the Castle Grande deal -- were subpoenaed in 1994. They were missing until early 1996, when they turned up in a White House room next to her office. She says she doesn't know how they got there.
C is for Cattlegate, Hillary Clinton's mysterious ability to turn a $1,000 investment into a $100,000 profit on cattle futures, a feat experts say was virtually impossible in normal trading.
C is also for Castle Grande, a real-estate scheme that federal regulators say was a sham. A federal inspector general's report found Hillary Clinton drew up the legal papers that were used to improperly funnel hundreds of thousands of dollars to Seth Ward, father-in-law of her ex-law partner Webster Hubbell.
D is for Billy Dale, the career head of the White House Travel Office, who was fired along with six other career staffers, to make way for Clinton cronies in Travelgate. The White House then brought in the FBI to justify the firing, and Dale was hit with criminal charges that wrecked his life for two years. A jury cleared him in just two hours.
E is for Mike Espy, the former agriculture secretary who was forced out over charges that he got gifts and favors from Arkansas-based Tyson foods, whose owners were longtime Clinton backers. A special counsel has brought several indictments, though not against Espy.
F is for Filegate, the improper White House rummaging through 900 FBI files on Republican officials in the Bush and Reagan administration. The White House says it was an innocent snafu. Republicans suspect an enemies list. THE CLINTON MACHINE GOT THIS SWEPT UNDER THE CARPET????
G is for Golfgate, ex-White House aide David Watkins' improper use of presidential helicopters for a personal golf outing. He was forced to resign. In the 1992 presidential campaign, Clinton aides tried to use taxpayer funds to help settle a sexual harassment case filed by a fellow campaign worker against Watkins.
H is for Hillary Clinton, whose role has been questioned in Filegate, Travelgate, Billing-gate, Whitewater and Castle Grande. She denies any wrongdoing.
H is also for Hubbell, in jail after pleading guilty to bilking law clients on charges brought by Whitewater independent counsel Starr. Hubbell was previously the associate attorney general, the No. 3 Justice Department office.
I is for Indonesiagate, featuring the Lippo group, a firm with long-standing ties to Bill Clinton, Clinton cronies and Arkansas. Republicans want to know why an Indonesian couple -- of apparently modest means -- with ties to Lippo gave $452,000 to the Democratic National Committee and what the firm may have gotten in return. Lippo also hired Hubbell, at a reported fee of $250,000, for the five months when he left the White House and went to jail.
J is for Paula Jones, who accuses President Clinton of sexual harassment, saying he dropped his pants and asked for oral sex in an Arkansas hotel room while he was governor and she was a state employee. SETTLED OUT OF COURT?????
K is for William Kennedy, another ex-Hillary Clinton law partner who became a White House lawyer and was forced to resign after concealing his failure to pay nanny taxes. He was reprimanded for his role in Travelgate.
L is for Craig Livingstone, the ex-bar bouncer with a history of drug use who was the head of White House security. Two FBI agents say it was Hillary Clinton who demanded his hiring, which she denies. Disgraced Clinton political guru Dick Morris's hooker pal, Sherry Rowlands, claims Morris told her a "paranoid" Hillary Clinton was behind Filegate. He says he only told her that's what polls show.
M is for Jim and Susan McDougal, the Clintons' Whitewater partners, both of whom have been convicted of fraud. Jim McDougal is said to be helping Whitewater independent counsel Starr. Susan McDougal is in jail for refusing to say whether President Clinton lied when he denied knowing about an illegal $300,000 loan to bail out Whitewater. The loan wasn't repaid, and taxpayers were left holding the bag. "YOU AND ME"????????
M is also for disgraced political guru Dick Morris.
N is for Bernard Nussbaum, the former White House
lawyer who barred federal investigators from searching Vince Foster's office after Foster's death. Nussbaum also withheld Foster's diary on Travelgate problems from federal probers for more than a year. Nussbaum was forced to resign for botching damage-control efforts.
O is for Energy Secretary Hazel O'Leary, the frequent flier who drew up an enemies list of reporters, hired an image consultant at taxpayer expense, and has run up huge tabs on overseas trips.
P is for Pardons, which President Clinton has refused to rule out for individuals like Susan McDougal who potentially could provide evidence against him.
P is also for White House Chief of Staff Leon Panetta, expected to leave in a second Clinton term -- with the prospect that his deputy, Harold Ickes, could replaces him. Senate Republicans want perjury charges brought against Ickes for his answers on Whitewater damage control. "LOOK AT THE LIST OF PARDONS" SCUM SOME OF WHICH MADE LARGE DONATIONS TO THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN"
Q is for all the questions -- unanswered -- on Whitewater, Filegate, Travelgate, Cattlegate and Billgate.
R is for Sherry Rowlands, the $200-an-hour hooker who revealed her ongoing affair with Clinton political guru Dick Morris, the author of Clinton's family-values strategy, forcing Morris to resign.
R is also for the Rose Law Firm, where Hillary Clinton, Vince Foster, Webster Hubbell and William Kennedy were partners, as was Joseph Giroir, a key figure in the Lippo group.
S is for Kenneth Starr, the Whitewater independent counsel probing Filegate, Travelgate and Vince Foster's death. He has won 15 convictions or guilty pleas, including both McDougals and former Arkansas Gov. Jim Guy Tucker, who was forced to resign. Starr says his probes are active and ongoing, and there is widespread speculation he will have more indictments after the election, possibly including one of Hillary Clinton. SWEPT UNDER THE CARPET???????
T is for Travelgate, the Clintons' firing of career travel staffers like Billy Dale to make way for Clinton cronies. White House memos say Hillary Clinton was behind the firings -- she denies it -- and that she was spurred on by Clinton Hollywood pal Harry Thomason, who was seeking a piece of the lucrative White House charter business.
U is for undue influence and the question of whether that is what Lippo was seeking though megabucks contributions to Democrats. Lippo has close ties to Indonesia's brutal dictatorship, responsible for near-genocide in East Timor, which it occupied two decades ago.
V is for Vince Foster, the former Hillary Clinton law partner who became a White House lawyer and was found dead, an apparent suicide with a gunshot wound to the head. He apparently was a central figure in Travelgate and Filegate and handled Whitewater matters for the Clintons. Starr is examining his death and has yet to confirm former prober Bob Fiske's conclusion that it was a suicide in the park where Foster was found. SWEPT UNDER THE CARPET??????
W is for Whitewater, the Arkansas land deal that started it all, with questions about whether the Clintons improperly benefitted from funds Jim McDougal's Madison Guarantee savings-and-loan, which went belly up, costing taxpayers an estimated $60 million. THAT'S YOU AND ME!!!!!!!
X is for the Xeroxed copy of Hillary Clinton's law billing records that were found in the white House book room, two years after they were first sought. The pages had Mrs. Clinton's fingerprints around the section on Castle Grande - there were red ink notations in the late Vince Foster's handwriting.
Y is for the the young White House aides who were hired by the Clinton administration despite FBI background checks that found "recent" use of hard drugs like cocaine, crack and hallucinogens.
Z is for zippers -- the one Paula Jones claims that the then-Arkansas governor undid (see J) and the one Gennifer Flowers claims Clinton undid during what she insists was a long-running affair. He denies the claims.
[Source: The New York Post
Thomas at 12:59PM on Aug 11th 2007
43. Would like to volenteer time to you and your campain tell me what I can do to help . Your my choice i'm your help in Montana If you need it
william navarro at 11:47PM on Aug 13th 2007
44. The first black Lady President Hillary Rodham .
RAP at 2:01AM on Aug 18th 2007
45. Are you guys serious?
There are people on this board wondering why she'd make a bad president? She is a socialist. She constantly talks about distributing the wealth. I have no problems with uplifting the poor but not with forcible attempts to re-distribute.
Capitalism may not seem perfectly fair but is the most efficient way to create wealth. Many of the people who currently seem to be languishing are a result of the welfare system created that provides incentive to not work. Socialism or socialist policies (Hillary would only be a mild one in the truest form of the term) have never helped any country. Look at North Korea, China, Eastern Europe, etc. Just a look at the difference between Eastern Europe and Western Europe will give you the broad picture.
I will agree that she has the best intentions at heart and is probably not corrupt but here is what the most celebrated economist of the 20th century, Milton Friedman said... (roughly summarized)
There are four ways to spend money -
One is to spend your own money on yourself. In this case you care about the quality of the product bought and the amount you spend.
One is to spend your own money on someone else. In this case you care a lot more about the amount spent than the quality of the product bought.
One is to spend someone else's money on yourself. In this case you care a lot less about the amount spent and a lot more about the quality of the product bought.
Lastly, when you spend someone else's money on someone else, you care about neither the quality of the product bought nor the amount of money spent on it.
Government must exist to provide certain functions that private enterprise can't provide. Such as postal services, parks, law and order, running jails, etc. What the government can't provide (efficiently) is universal health care. We spend over half a trillion dollars on medicare every year. That is more than the entire gross domestic product of most countries in the world. That in itself points to inefficiency. The question is not whether medicare has been useful but whether it has been efficiency keeping in mind its enormous costs. Let's not introduce universal health care.
Stop America from going the socialist way!
- aT
Thaker at 4:08AM on Oct 3rd 2007