Drudge is reporting that President Bush has gone on the record stating that he believes Hillary Clinton will win the Democratic presidential nomination, but she will lose the general election to a Republican challenger. This comes from an excerpt in the forthcoming book The Evangelical President by Bill Sammon, in which Bush states: "She's got a national presence and this is becoming a national primary...And therefore the person with the national presence, who has got the ability to raise enough money to sustain an effort in a multiplicity of sites, has got a good chance to be nominated."
While it seems a certain that Clinton will win the nomination, the certainty that she would lose is, well, not so certain at this stage of the game. The comments by Bush that a Republican will win the White House are not necessarily echoed by those close to the president. Former adviser Karl Rove feels the race will be too close to call and this sentiment is basically repeated on the record by Vice President Dick Cheney in the following comment: "[The election] could go either way."
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1. I agree that Hilliary will win the Democatic nominee for president, but that Guilliano will beat her out as president.She might be a smart woman, but we need a man as president. And Guilliano would be my pick. Hillary is talking to much about the Health Care for all Americans, when the war or any future war is more important. She will lose in the end.
Eleanor Peters at 1:09AM on Sep 24th 2007
2. It is disheartening when I see comments like those of Eleanor Peters stating that we need a man as president. Women have been repressed since the beginning of time, and the 20th and 21st centuries have seen women begin to spread their wings...realizing that they are capable of doing anything a man can do. How interesting that the greatest country in the world has never had a woman head of state, while other countries have. Look at Margaret Thatcher, Eva Peron, Corazon Aquino, Benazir Bhutto, etc. Unfortunately, many women in the U.S.A. aren't raised believing that they can. Their husbands determine their decisions, when it should be a mutual agreement. I'm not necessarily supporting Hilary...some things bother me about her as a politician. But you can bet, I won't be voting for or against her because she's a woman. If you see this, Eleanor, I hope someday you will become an empowered individual and know that men and women can share an equal stage.
whatupdoc at 6:34AM on Sep 24th 2007
3. Way to go out on a limb there buddy!
dave at 6:44AM on Sep 24th 2007
4. It is hopeful that we, as human beings, have advanced past the "we need a man" stage in history. We, as a people, need an educated, caring, and dedicated person that is willing to take responsibilty for her/his actions. We the people need someone to clean up the national discord spread by past people of power. It is time for us to choose wisely, not based on gender, but on the personal and professional achievements of the person in question. I will not vote for a man or a woman candidate. I will vote for the person I feel will get the job done. I urge other thinking people to do the same.
Debbie at 7:30AM on Sep 24th 2007
5. If we are lucky...Hillary will win both the nomination and the Presidency...She can make sense of ths mess left behind and begin to
get us back to a life that has meaning and healing...
And someone stated "we need a man as president"....umm...let me go buy you a calandar...it is 2007, please...take a peek...we can vote now too!
Christina at 7:44AM on Sep 24th 2007
6. I would like to see anyone in beside hillary as all
that will happen is her husband will run things again
and he will let others run over us.at least bush dont back down.
carroll redd at 8:14AM on Sep 24th 2007
7. The real support for Hillary is small. Not because she is a woman, actually, but because she is a Republican in sheep's clothing. Does anyone realize that in the early 70's she worked as a legal council for George Herbert Walker Bush? Sure, she's got all the proper ratings from all the proper groups, but she voted for the war, and has all off the proper friends in the moneyed community. And, most importantly, the average person just doesn't get a good vibe off of her.
Gulliani is not a solid competitor either, from his many facist comments, to his lack of religion, and his dastardly treatment of his own family, the average person also knows that he is untrustworthy.
So, what's the plan, Stan?
Bloomberg/Hagel, or Hagel/Bloomberg will pop out at the last moment and everyone will sigh in relief and vote for their "Independent" ticket.
Why? Because the Illumintai know you better than you do. That's why!
Jesse at 12:05PM on Sep 24th 2007
8. WHY IN THE HELL IS ANYONE EVEN SERIOUSLY CONSIDERING THIS WOMEN FOR THE PRESIDENCY? WHAT IS HER EXPERIENCE I KEEP HEARING SO MUCH ABOUT? BECAUSE SHE WAS MARRIED TO A GOVENOR OR A PRESIDENT DOESNT GIVE HER EXPERIENCE. LOTS OF WOMEN HAVE MARRIED POLITICIANS BUT THAT DOESNT GIVE THEM EXPERIENCE. SHOULD LEE I'S WIFE BE ABLE TO RUN CRYSLER BECAUSE SHE WAS MARRIED TO HIM? GIVE ME A BREAK. PERSONALLY I WANT A NEW NAME BESIDES BUSH OR CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THERE ARE MORE, AND BETTER, CHOICES OUT THERE! REALLY, CAN SOMEONE LIST 5 THINGS THIS WOMEN HAS DONE TO COMPLETION THAT HAS MADE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR NATION? WHAT LEGISLATION HAS SHE WRITTEN? WHAT GOOD BILL HAS SHE BEEN A PART OF THAT PASSED THAT MADE A DIFFERENCE? THE WAY I SEE IT SHES NO MORE QUALIFIED THAN OBAMA, SHE CERTAINLY HASNT SERVED MUCH LONGER IN THE SENATE...SHES A LOOSER AND HER RECORD PROVES IT.
KAREN at 12:16PM on Sep 24th 2007
9. THE ONLY WAY HILARY WILL WIN NOMINATION IS IF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY VOTES FOR HER, THEN BACKS THIER ACTUAL CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENCY! I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT OF HER AS PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.
pay784 at 12:56PM on Sep 24th 2007
10. the 2008 pres. election will be a combat war between 2 new yorkers ( although one has been labeled carpet bagger from chicago) Make a choice between Hillary and Rudy. I predict Rudy will win.
IRT2LTEE at 4:52PM on Sep 24th 2007
11. "We just need to keep on with the excellent start that George W. Bush has made."
YOUR STUPID COMMENT MAKES ME PUKE!
HE HAS BEEN WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING
HE IS A WAR CRIMINAL AND SHOULD BE IN JAIL
BUSH MAKES ME PUKE at 1:23AM on Sep 25th 2007
12. RECORDS SET
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court
* According to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate. A reader computes that there was a total of 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned. A key difference between the Clinton story and earlier ones was the number of criminals with whom he was associated before entering the White House.
Using a far looser standard that included resignations, David R. Simon and D. Stanley Eitzen in Elite Deviance, say that 138 appointees of the Reagan administration either resigned under an ethical cloud or were criminally indicted. Curiously Haynes Johnson uses the same figure but with a different standard in "Sleep-Walking Through History: America in the Reagan Years: "By the end of his term, 138 administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."
STARR-RAY INVESTIGATION
- Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions or guilty pleas (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 14
- Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5
- Number of Reagan cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 4
- Number of top officials jailed in the Teapot Dome Scandal: 3
CRIME STATS
- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122
SMALTZ INVESTIGATION
- Guilty pleas and convictions obtained by Donald Smaltz in cases involving charges of bribery and fraud against former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy and associated individuals and businesses: 15
- Acquitted or overturned cases (including Espy): 6
- Fines and penalties assessed: $11.5 million
- Amount Tyson Food paid in fines and court costs: $6 million
CAMPAIGN FINANCE INVESTIGATION
- As of June 2000, the Justice Department listed 25 people indicted and 19 convicted because of the 1996 Clinton-Gore fundraising scandals.
- According to the House Committee on Government Reform in September 2000, 79 House and Senate witnesses asserted the Fifth Amendment in the course of investigations into Gore's last fundraising campaign.
-James Riady entered a plea agreement to pay an $8.5 million fine for campaign finance crimes. This was a record under campaign finance laws.
CLINTON MACHINE CRIMES FOR WHICH CONVICTIONS WERE OBTAINED
Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.
BLACKMANVISION at 10:39AM on Sep 25th 2007
13. Hillary is the Bob Dole of 2008: strongly supported by her party loyalits and the liberal elite special interests (NAACP excepted, but that will change as Obama continues to reveal his incompetence), not to mention her huge campaign chest garnished, as we know now, by contributions from every sleezy corporate interest possible.
However, even within her party many question her electablity because something very close to a majority of Americans just do not like her personally. Add to this, the vast group of voters who would as soon elect Bin Laudin as put "BJ" in a postion of power ever again. Add to that, the very real resistance to putting a woman in the White House, especially one with a legally questionable past who has ridden on the coattails of her sexual predator husband, whom she has enabled in his banality and simple lack of basic decency. For all the noise, rhetoric, and the liberal elite media's schewing of the facts and the polls, the average American voter wants to win this war, wants to be secure, wants our borders sealed, and does not want huge tax increases or the kind of sophmoric amateur improvisational government (with the worse ethical record since Warren Harding) that we endured between 1993 and 2001. If the Republicans nominate anyone even vaguely near the center like Rudy, they have an excellent change to win, which would be a wonderful affirmation that the country has at last left the insanity of the 60s "do your own thing man" generation behind. We just need to keep on with the excellent start that George W. Bush has made.
nathan utt at 7:46PM on Sep 25th 2007
14. HILLARY CLINTON NEEDS HER HEAD EXAMINED.INSTEAD OF WANTING TO GIVE COLLEGE BONDS TO EVERY AMERICAN BORN CHILD, SHE SHOULD BE WANTING TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF NEW ORLEANS WHO ARE STILL LIVING IN A GULLY IN NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA, AFTER BEING HIT BY HURRICANE KATRINA.THE CITY IS GONE AND CLINTON HAS KNOW IDEA HOW MUCH THE PEOPLE OF LOUISIANA ARE SUFFERING.PARENTS CAN SEND THERE OWN DAMN KIDS TO COLLEGE.WE NEED HOUSES TO LIVE IN OUT HERE ! AND OUR LEVEES BUILT UP.AND GOVERMENT FUNDING. I WOULDN'T VOTE THIS AIR HEAD IN FOR PRESIDENT IF THEY PAID ME.JOHN McCAIN HAS MY VOTE.THE SENATOR IS RIGHT, THERE IS TOO MUCH WASTEFUL SPENDING.IF CLINTON WANTS TO FUND THESE KIDS FOR COLLEGE LET HER DO IT WITH HER OWN TAINTED MONEY! LET HILLARY CLINTON LIVE IN A 12X12 TRAILER FOR 2 YEARS, LETS SEE HOW SHE LIKES IT. VOTE JOHN McCAIN FOR PRESIDENT!
Cateyespretty at 11:27PM on Sep 29th 2007
15. HILLARY CLINTON NEEDS HER HEAD EXAMINED.INSTEAD OF WANTING TO GIVE COLLEGE BONDS TO EVERY AMERICAN BORN CHILD, SHE SHOULD BE WANTING TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF NEW ORLEANS WHO ARE STILL LIVING IN A GULLY IN NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA, AFTER BEING HIT BY HURRICANE KATRINA.THE CITY IS GONE AND CLINTON HAS KNOW IDEA HOW MUCH THE PEOPLE OF LOUISIANA ARE SUFFERING.PARENTS CAN SEND THERE OWN DAMN KIDS TO COLLEGE.WE NEED HOUSES TO LIVE IN OUT HERE ! AND OUR LEVEES BUILT UP.AND GOVERMENT FUNDING. I WOULDN'T VOTE THIS AIR HEAD IN FOR PRESIDENT IF THEY PAID ME.JOHN McCAIN HAS MY VOTE.THE SENATOR IS RIGHT, THERE IS TOO MUCH WASTEFUL SPENDING.IF CLINTON WANTS TO FUND THESE KIDS FOR COLLEGE LET HER DO IT WITH HER OWN TAINTED MONEY! LET HILLARY CLINTON LIVE IN A 12X12 TRAILER FOR 2 YEARS, LETS SEE HOW SHE LIKES IT. VOTE JOHN McCAIN FOR PRESIDENT!
Cateyespretty at 11:48PM on Sep 29th 2007