The MSNBC webite has a fascinating piece about the thesis Hillary Rodham wrote as a senior at Wellesley College in 1969. Her subject was Saul Alinsky, a radical activiist of the era. MSNBC breathlessly states that Ms. Clinton's critics view the thesis as "a 'Rosetta Stone,' in the words of one, that would allow readers to decode the thinking of the former first lady and 2008 presidential candidate." I think most of Hillary's serious critics are more likely to see the thesis as a window into the thinking of a very bright 21-year old, in the context of the student radicalism of the day. As one who was part of that culture, the thesis strikes me as fairly thoughtful and tame by that low standard. Although Hillary apparently attempted to limit access to her thesis, I suspect she's secretly relieved that she didn't write "Ho Chi Minh -- Agrarian Reformer" or "The U.S. Army -- Genghis Khan Revisited."
The MSNBC piece speculates that Hillary's thesis will be used to "Swiftvet" her. But precisely because, unlike Mr. Swiftvet reporting for duty, she didn't push a "Genghis Khan" type thesis, I don't see real vulnerability here. Any vulnerability will derive from the radicalism that Hillary continued to display for many years after she wrote her thesis on Alinsky. For a bit more on the subject, visit Power Line.



Reader Comments ( Page 4 of 4)
46. To Tom, the self-righteous moron; "disgusting and unnatural" referring to homosexuality? I find it much more disgusting that folks like you sit in judgment of others, and find nothing more unnatural than that. Judge not that ye be not judged, and by the way, it is also more disgusting to me that men and women stay together, even though many do so while committing adultery because they really shouldn't have been together in the first place. Get a grip, Tom. Insecure in our manhood, are we?
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Richard Mundy at 3:51PM on Mar 5th 2007
47. For all interested citizens, Jimmy Carter is a Born Again, Evangelical Christian. Just as Gearge W. Bush is.
previn at 1:28PM on Mar 12th 2007
48. Clinton proved when they were in the White House that she was a socialist, if you want that kind of a country move to Russia, Mexico, Canada or any number of other countries. I'm sick of government taking the money I earn and giving it to people who do not want to work and pay their own way. Government is forcing the working class to support the non-working class. The liberials have created an entire side of socity that will not get a job because they are paid not to work. I could not live with myself, how can they? Voting for Comrad Hillary is throwing your money down the tubes.
John Shafer at 4:01PM on Mar 6th 2007
49. For those of you who think that anyone who does not agree with the lifestyle of homosexuals must be homophobic, you are dead wrong. It is not normal, or natural. Secondly, you do not see a turkey on a chicken, much less a Tom turkey on a rooster. Even animals know that they should be with the opposite sex.
Lori at 6:56PM on Mar 5th 2007
50. I was very impressed about many of the thoughtfull comments on many different subjects on this site. I am a religious Catholic and feel strongly about issues concerning religion. People who constantly preach about the evils of religion are in fact preaching their own beliefs which are in essence religious beliefs. They would have us all believe that a woman's right to choose is a blessed sacrement of their religion. They also at every turn try to drive a wedge between people of all faiths by saying that all wars were fought over religion, while hiding the fact that atheists have killed more people in wars to promote their faith than all other religions combined. I refer here to the millions of people murdered at the hands of the atheist communists throughout the world. Atheists who were helped in their agenda by unloyal Americans such as the criminal FDR, Truman, and Churchill by leading America into a war that most people didn't want it to be in and for the sake of promoting aid to these murderous religious fanatacs. Remember, what the far left in this country is promoting is not love of one's fellow man, but hatred by constantly harping on differences and forcing homosexuality down people's throats. Many of them are on the right as well and propagandizing against what they call radical Muslims. The real truth is that both the far right and far left are atheistic religous fanatics. As evidence for this, research the secret societies that these elite's belong to such as the Freemasons and the Skulls with their Satanic/Atheistic origins.
Mike at 5:02PM on Mar 7th 2007
51. Any singular denomination (example: the Church of England) cannot, by constitutional issue, force American citizens to recognize it as the 'only' church.
The measure was preventative, foresightful, and perfect in its proper context.
What's confusing to me is how that relates to 'no God in government' and anything the government touches. Today's interpretation of the separation of church and state is either mass ignorance or massive manipulation. Most likely, it's a mix of both.
Many people accuse Christians of re-writing the Bible or misinterpreting it when they call sin what it is - including their own! Meantime, Christians are expected to shut up and stay out of government -while nobody else is asked to do the same.
True Christians trust and worship God - they don't rewrite the Bible because they don't like what it says. And true Christians trust their like-minded fathers of America - they don't attempt to rewrite the Constitution.
Sadly, there are many who continually attempt to rewrite both great works of history to suit their lifestyle choices.
Maybe one day we'll all come back to our roots and values. Maybe one day leaders will once again be born to the same. Maybe one day we'll be a great and undivided nation again.
In any 2008 presidential candidate, I will search for a bright mind with a true, brave heart. I will search for a faithful follower of God.
Male or female, I pray such a person steps up to the podium. And soon.
Anna Robb at 8:57PM on Mar 5th 2007
52. Hilarious beleives that she and those of her thinking are the most well suited to make decisons for me and my family. What I cannot come to terms with is what politicians and who running do not feel the same way she does? In 1994 the country came together to stop the big government liberals like Hilarious and her husband. Then in 2000 we elected more conservatives (we thought). The trend continued up until 2004 (remember the sea of red). We never got we voted for. Where is the lack of government intrusion? Why is government more involved in religion then ever? ( and what I mean by that is that our country is doing more then ever to push religon out of our lives.) We have given more power the ever to the liberals. W egot tax cuts, followed by massive spending, even my simple mind can tell you that does not add up. We can blame some on the war we did not start, but how do you expalin the runaway growth in domestic spending? I see the same thing in Florida with all of our elected republicans. The only solution they ever have is to introduce another government program, spend more money, and regulate more.
I am looking for those out there who want to see a candidate whose solution is to scale back government, get rid of some programs and regulations, and let the people go free. Please do not tell me what you are going to for America, tell me what you are going to let America do for itself! Are there any condidates like that?
I am so frustrated with big governement republicans that I am ready to break!. I am almost ready to support Hilary, just so the counrty's backlash against her values will be strong eneough to really wake up the principled traditional Americans (who I call conservatives.
TP at 5:31PM on Mar 5th 2007
53. SEÑORA CLINTON
MUCHO CUIDADO CON ESTA SEÑORA,TODO LO QUE HACE Ó
DICE ESTÁ FRIAMENTE CALCULADO,ES INTELIGENTE PERO
EN UNA SOLA DIRECCIÓN,SU BENEFICIO PERSONAL,SU PAÍS
NO LE INTERESA,SI LE INTERESARA NO HUBIERA IDO A CUBA CUANDO ERA ESTUDIANTE ,,CUIDADO...CUIDADO
CUIDADO......
Maria at 6:39PM on Mar 5th 2007
54. I thank God each day that I am as old as I am, because I would not be able to survive for eight years of another Clinton in the White House. I also fear for an Obama regime as I do not want to be ruled by the Taliban or other radical Islams. When will people find out the training that has taken place on both of these candidates when they were young? This is what they will be when "grown".
M Livengood at 8:27PM on Mar 5th 2007
55. Nearly all of you are crazy. The Bible was written and re-written by MEN, it is not an e-mail from God himself. There are numerous things that are completely wrong, may it be from poor translation or contradictions from others changing things to make their own version of history. Please for the rest of us view the people in this world as beings, not sections of religion. I am a Chrisitian, but if I were not I would still be worthy of all the same rights. Also, what people do on their own time, in their own bedrooms is no ones business so don't judge it. And Tom prayer being banned from a classroom is not as bad as it may seem to you. Not everyones children has the sam believes as yours. religion should not be pushed on people who do not want it, they need to accept it on their own. If you don't do this you become very closed minded which has become obvious by some of the comments people have left here.
Amber at 9:44PM on Mar 5th 2007
56. Please help all of us find the best candidate.
We have many issues.
We need someone with some strong moral/ethical behaviors. No one should even run, if there is something major in their history.... Unfortunately this should not even be an issue. Everyone running should have the cleanest slate.
At least Guiliani's children are mature enough to state what the conflict is with their relationship with him. Obviously, they've both stated it's not him, but the new wife,etc.
I think for the rest of Chelsea's life, everyone will feel sorry for her due to the parents she had.
What a life of selfishness, rudeness, and lack of respect for each partner in that family.
I pray we can keep Mrs. Clinton away from this candidacy.
Obama has no right to run for President... does he truely think he should?? Where are his ethics/morals.
Why would he put himself in such a place for scrutiny.
We need an excellent business man or woman who has excellent standards and can communicate with our armed forces, with a strong knowledge of it; as well as being able to manage money and make a major difference in keeping our US safe. We need to stop the influx of foreigners until there is more worldly peace and respect. Best wishes with election
Jan at 12:45AM on Mar 6th 2007
57. You are all examples why man & earth is doomed! Republicans have ran the country into the ground over the last six years while making sure they and their friends stay rich! The democrats are all chasing each others tail and probably won't be able to get us out of the hole the republicans have put us in anyways. "Everybody" thinks their party knows everything! In real life the answers are always in the middle, don't you watch wifeswap? :)
While you genius' argue over which idiot will save us, the world is slowly dying and no matter who takes control they can't or won't stop it! Call me chicken little all you want, I guess chickens are smarter than humans! :)
Muy Dixienormous at 5:48AM on Mar 6th 2007
58. As another Christian, I would like to clarify to the gays that we also hate the sexual sins of the heterosexuals that are being flaunted every where. I rarely watch TV or go to a movie because I can't do so without seeing more than I want to.
Blair, tell your wife hi for me. Hope you all are doing well.
Jimmy Carter may not have been the greatest president, I didn't get involved in politics then, however, as a man I find alot to respect. He has done alot to bring Habitate for Humanity into the spotlight.
We need someone with good morals in the Whitehouse. Our country can't keep going downhill the way it is and survive. If the family doesn't start coming back together as a working unit, we will not survive. Our kids need to be taught by their parents how to behave as responsible people who take ownership of their actions. You break it, you fix it or pay for it.
Jeannette at 1:18PM on Mar 6th 2007
59. I hate to break the news to those who insist that this country was founded by "Christians," but our founding fathers, for the most part, were in fact Deists, and the constitution was written to prevent any one religion or set of religious beliefs from becoming mandatory for all...not to specifically promote Christianity.
Educ8m at 5:22PM on Mar 6th 2007
60. David-
Well that is good you wouldn’t want to be here - -the foreign policy would make you sick as it does me and a growing number of fellow citizens. Domestic policies pretty much suck too unless you’ve got stock in Exxon or Halliburton or US Gun. I’m in the big middle America, Canada on top, Mexico just below. The one that has a chimp for president? Where are you writing from? Mars?
The one thing you got right in your slam against Alinsky is that he was a radical troublemaker. If helping and defending the poor is your idea of a troublemaker and since most people would agree with you, I guess that’s what he was. I’d love to know which current ones you’re speaking about. I’m heartsick there are none of his stature around today, but you speak of ‘so many”. Who? Where? (Don’t bother, I know the standard answer – it’s the commie Satan influenced ACLU). Other than that, your post mostly proves you know nothing about Alinsky . One of Alinsky’s better-known rules wherever he worked was “never do something for someone that they can do for themselves.” He was about organizing and empowering those without power, not giving handouts to them. Saying radical troublemakers just talk because they like to hear themselves talk is your opinion, which is worth about as much as snake poop in an argument about the man. I’m impressed that YOU don’t depend on anybody else for handouts; YOU don’t need the government giving you anything. YOU didn’t get to Mars by – yes, isn’t it a scandal all the people lying in gutters waiting for someone to come and drag them to an existence. I was just telling the wife the other day . . . uh, sorry. YOU did it all on your own. Bravo for YOU, sir. It would probably surprise you to know I can say the same thing although I’d hardly word it the same way. I consider myself fortunate that my hard work and work ethic paid off –many people have worked as hard as or harder than me and have not much to show for it. I am a bit puzzled how this got to be all about YOU and had I only known YOU were the man with the answers and the contempt, I’d have never brought the subject up. So lets agree we are both people who can do; without help, we can do. But, sir, what about the ones who can’t? Do we toss them aside for coming from a broken home, because they fall sick with a drug addiction, because they just don’t have the intelligence or the common sense or the educational opportunity to do like YOU did and make it to Mars? Do we abandon them to their fate -- yes, I know they should help themselves, but some people really do try to help themselves and have diddlysquat to show for it. Alinsky championed those people not by marching for handouts but by empowering them to organize on the principal nobody will listen to one man or one woman but they will listen when there’s 500 men and women. I’ve heard 500 connies mock the title of Ms Clinton’s book a thousand times – we don’t need a village, we need a trip back in the time machine, to when white men ruled the world, a woman was in the home and the wife and the kids quaked when the old man brought out the belt. And the bible was the good book and the only guide needed to live life, which is scary enough on its own. Just because you’re full of yourself and think Hillary is an apologist and an enabler for broken homes doesn’t make you right. However, it doesn’t do children any good who are living a life they surely didn’t choose by talking about what we should do. Laying foundations and parents who care about their kids and show them right from wrong. And while we’re at it, get those welfare mothers out of that ADC
office and over to Wal-Mart and earn a living – well, kind of a living. Not even I like seeing my money going to welfare supporting able-bodied grown men and women, but taking that money away without offering anything constructive is only compounding the problem – and at any rate it’s rarely the welfare mothers and the freeloaders you hate so much who end up losing, but it very often does hurt their children. Women who don't know how to raise children shouldn’t have them – I’ll grant you that; men who won’t stick around to be a father, leave a lot to be desired as men, we agree again. But fact is, it happens and all the ‘we should do this’ and “we should stop this” ‘in my day” and ‘the damn ACLU”’s doesn’t benefit those children even a little bit. For some children it does take a village. Saul Alinsky knew that and he knew the village would do better if it was organized and demanding its rights. how does a child benefit when we 'get back' at those mothers and fathers who refuse to lay a foundation and possibly are a bit hazy on right and wrong and can't teach their children. Children whom I would hope even you would consider innocent victims. if you’re willing to just toss aside a generation or two of children to get those lazy so-and-so’s off the couch and standing in lines of 2000 for the next 50 openings at Target and Wal-Mart. Well, you’re a better man than I. Or something. Saying men like Saul Alinsky should be quarantined as though they had a disease says volumes about you and the current mindset of this country. And here, I thought this was supposed to be a compassionate conservatism. Should have known that only went as far as oil companies, banks, the upper class and invasion contractors.
Mike at 6:48AM on Mar 7th 2007