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2. If people like you used their time and resources supporting our country instead of trashing it this war would have been over years ago. Wouldn't it be more productive to critisize our enemys instead of our soldiers ie "mass slaughter of innocents"? How many innocents were slaughterd under saddam's rule? Where were you then? By the way I'm one of the billion constituents of the Pope and really wish you would lay of the german/nazi cracks they are not funny in the slightist. Some of my family were murdured by hitler in poland and some fled to the USA. But the ones who came to America only stayed long enough to regroup, arm themselves, and train under the greatest army on earth.

Adam at 6:48PM on Jun 9th 2007

3. Well somebody above me woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. As for Mo's 'German' quip, it's more of a pleasant stereotype which doesn't fall into the sole category of a Nazi, no. More so, it's just a comic jab at the uneasy temper of some Germans. They were the original barbarians you know. Ask Ancient Rome.

Anyway, Bush, like the majority of Americans think, is an idiot. He is a puppet president at best, and nowhere near as respectable as former 'regular guy' presidents like Lyndon B. Johnson or Harry Truman. As expected, a Vatican trip isn't going to warrant any praise or respect for Bush. It's just another chance for him to act like a buffoon and then let the mass media gobble up every silly phrase and action he says and does like it's the World’s Fair and Jesus himself is on display.

For now, I say, let Bush just enjoy what little he has left of his presidency. Johnson was belittled and insulted for Vietnam, becoming quite depressed near the end of his term. Bush I fear, well, it's actually turning into the same thing from what I can tell.

Your Favorite Swiss Guardsman,
Blayze 'Pope Shag III' O'Brien from the Bee

bobrien at 7:08PM on Jun 9th 2007

4. In contrast, Mo, I personally thought the blog was EXCELLENT. I personally think Bush DOES have a very low IQ, all that partying and managing to destroy everything he touches. However, he takes instruction well, and his scapegoating of gays in the 2004 to hide all his deficiencies as President, was pure Hitler evil genius. He actually IS the world's new Hitler.

Now, the Pope IS an idiot and doesn't take advice well. Someone needs to remind him this is 2007, not 1952.

Phil at 7:08PM on Jun 9th 2007

5. Bush is probably the smartest dumb person there is. He managed to get elected and then re-elected. But he really is a puppet, he does and says what he is told to do. But still in all honesty, I dont like him. Never have and never will. So I really cant wait until the next election in 2008.
Apiffany

NotSoInnocent at 9:08PM on Jun 9th 2007

6. bobrien writes: "Johnson was belittled and insulted for Vietnam, becoming quite depressed near the end of his term. Bush I fear, well, it's actually turning into the same thing from what I can tell."

I hope he's getting depressed. After all the damage he and his Republican cohorts amd corporate masters have done, sometimes (often) to me he acts like he just doesn't care.

Phil at 9:39PM on Jun 9th 2007

7. Calling the Pope "sir" instead of "Your Holiness" hardly sounds earthshaking, rude or stupid to me. In addition, the US is not a "Catholic" country and no doubt if Bush looked too huimble with the Pope, he would be criticised for THAT!! Recall Nancy Reagan being hit on in the press for a curtsy to Queen Elizabeth of England, when she was no doubt just trying to be polite. Its a no win situation for any President. It never fails to amaze me the amount of venom that is out there in the Liberal media where the President is concerned.They manage to turn his meeting the Pope into a negative. The press would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. Bush didn't slap the Pope on the back and offer him a beer, did he? I'm a life-long Catholic and I wish the Church would get it's nose out of American politics. They have no business telling us what to do about our National Security issues ( wars) or undermining us on enforcing domestic policies regarding illegal aliens ( which they do by providing "sanctuary" for illegals about to be deported, in addition to providing them economic aid provided by the collection plate). My wallet is closed until they stop doing so.

LJ at 10:06PM on Jun 9th 2007

8. Adam-

If you sincerely believe I'm accusing U.S. troops of slaughtering innocents on a mass scale, then I'll clarify: It's the civil war unleashed by Bush's invasion of Iraq that has resulted in a torrential bloodletting in Iraq. Defenders of the war keep comparing the death toll under Saddam to the slaughter going on now. Fine. But soon enough, the lowest estimates of those being slaughtered since the invasion will exceed the highest estimates of those Saddam killed. Count on it.

Blayze-

Thanks for recognizing that my reference to the Pope being German was not about Nazism. Relax! Germans are stereotypically severe. That's all I meant.

Finally, back to Adam-

You seem to want to uncategorically defend the Pope and Bush. But they're diametrically opposed to each on Iraq. Pick a side.

Mo Rocca at 1:14AM on Jun 10th 2007

9. I agree Mo, but conveneniently forgetting the mass slaughter of innocents prior to the US invasion is too convenient isn't it? Who cared then, right? I wonder if the Pope did. Is standing back and watching less of a sin?

Mel at 9:18AM on Jun 10th 2007

10. Dear Carol Burnett, Both Bush and Benedict can be considered demonic forces in this world. Two peas in a pod.

boo at 2:39PM on Jun 24th 2007

11. Mo, I have to say that I do indeed think Bush is an idiot. I think he simply does what his advisers and handlers tell him to do. There are some smart, if nefarious, people among them. Sometimes the apple does fall far from the tree. He has none of the class or intelligence of his parents. I never liked Bush Senior, either, as president, but I did have respect for him.

November of 2008 cannot get here soon enough.

Kaycie at 10:59AM on Jun 10th 2007

12. I assume that the main point of this post is that President Bush did not show proper deferance to the Pope. I agree with LJ, that our President should not have called the pope "His Holiness" any more than he should bend his knee to the Queen of England. We are a government by, of, and for the people, not beholden to religious or monarchial leaders.

I say, though, that I assume the post was about proper deference to the pope. Serious journalists take pride in the first paragraph of their story. What's the first paragraph of this blog post? A sarcastic 'All together now: Bush is not an idiot. He was elected twice, in part by affecting a "regular guy" image.' Plainly, the main goal here is not to determine the proper actions of elected officials; the main goal here is to bash political opponents.

Shame on Mr. Rocca for lowering the level of political debate. And shame on AOL for providing the forum to do so.

gfunkkid at 11:57AM on Jun 10th 2007

13. Mo writes: "Johnson was belittled and insulted for Vietnam, becoming quite depressed near the end of his term. Bush I fear, well, it's actually turning into the same thing from what I can tell."

I actually thought it had greatly exceeded the internal Saddam slaughter already. That apparently reliable estimate of 650,000 dead Iraqis was set forth quite some time ago, and they've been dying (as have our soldiers) ever since. I may be wrong - if I have time later I'll research or if anyone else knows the numbers, please thow them out there for us.

Upsetting the apple cart in the Mideast, which had its in place albeit uneasy checks and balances between Sunnis and Shiites, secularism and radical Islam, is the crucial item that makes the Iraq invasion the worst foreign policy error in our nation's history. First, all the security reasons for the invasion were all lies - this was a grudge match for Bush, who apparently thought of the actual human beings that would die as stick pins on a wall map of a battlefield.

Saddam was a monster who kept in check Shiite and Sunni discord in a brutal manner, had a strong secular interest to oppose radical Islam, and provided a Sunni buffer to Shiite excesses in Iran. He also happened to be a leader of an independent country. There are monsters all over the third world and we choose not to interfere with the sovereignty of the nations they govern. For better or for worse, we need to abandon the notion that we are the world's policeman or have the right to constantly criticize governments which would be unacceptable in the US. The fact is they are NOT in the US, and the people of these independent countries are the ones to choose what is acceptable or non-acceptable to them. Historically, nations governed by despots revolt when the populace has had enough.

I cringe whenever he visits a country, because, depending on the nation, he will either spout out insults about their government, or make statements about democracy that are so in contrast with his own domestic dictatorial desires. The former are guaranteed to cause the inevitable embarrassing mass protests which highlight how hated he's made our nation, and the later merely remind us all here of his attempt to use "enemy combatant" as the catch-all phrase to justify a desire to start a process of stripping citizens of their constitutional rights which would inevitable end with political opponents with no ties to terrorism being "enemy combatants."

I vividly remember those LONG six miserable years when Bush and the Republicans controlled two out of three branches of our federal government then rammed through two appointees to the Supreme Court that allowed them to control the third branch. But, surprise, a Supreme Court ruling on another matter closely related stopped him from practicing his "citizen disappearing act" because he knows if the Supreme Court specifically takes it on he will lose. That's the only reason Jose Padilla is now given the rights promised to all citizens, rights that were unilaterally taken away for so long.

Kaycie writes: "November of 2008 cannot get here soon enough."

Kaycie, I think all of America except the 20 some percent die hards feel that way. I'm 51, and in my lifetime a presidential campaign race that starts immediately after an election and two years before the presidential election is unprecedented. To me, it shows how anxious people of every party are to move beyond this administration. I sometimes worry that Bush et al. will dream up a "terrorist" attack in our homeland right before the election to throw the results - but that is just based on my opinion of the neo-com morality and hopefully excessive worry.

Phil at 12:38PM on Jun 10th 2007

14. So who's ready for the Tonys tonight?

bobrien at 4:26PM on Jun 10th 2007

15. why is it that people must take everything so seriously? this blog was supposed to be sacastically funny. i'm catholic, from a family of republicans, AND i'm a (new) texan. i didn't take any offense, and I thought this post was pretty funny. and let's keep in mind that this is mo's blog, not CNN or MSNBC.

lmai83 at 9:07PM on Jun 10th 2007