Dumbocracy in Action: The Immigration Bill Goes Down
"Look, this is a complicated bill. It's taken some time for people to understand what's in there. Obviously, it's a compromise and it's in the nature of compromise that everyone doesn't get everything they want."
But here's the problem: We're not conditioned to hear complicated proposals from this White House. They've been more committed than any White House in memory to turning us into simpletons. The President has been proud of framing everything in black-and-white. (If "nuance" weren't a French word, would he hate it as much?)
From the beginning, keeping things as simple as possible has been a guiding principle of the Bush White House. Remember Bush naming Jesus Christ as his favorite philosopher at a 2000 New Hampshire debate? A bold answer, shared of course by millions. But what was Bush's reason? "Because he changed my heart." That's it? That's your reason for naming the central figure in Western religion? You've still got 30 seconds, Mr. President. How about something from the Sermon on the Mount? Anything?
His answer ranked with Paris Hilton's answer to Larry King when he asked for her favorite Bible passage. (Answer: She smiled and looked away.)
But until now it's been hard to argue with the simpleton strategy. He got us into Iraq with three letters (a record in crystallization): WMD. And it got him re-elected with three numbers (with a slash through the first and second): 9/11. The 2004 Republican Convention was a master class in messaging: Each night had a smartly named theme but the whole thing was really 9/11, 9/11, 9/11. Ironic that the Democrats, the party in bed with Hollywood, can't produce its way out of the electoral toilet. Their convention was a total snooze.
I'd give Trent Lott points for courage (madness?) in criticizing talk radio for branding a complicated Immigration bill as nothing more than mass amnesty - except that talk radio's not to blame. The right-wing hosts didn't like the amnesty part of the bill so naturally they were going to highlight that part of it and ignore the tightened border security, guest-worker program, and fines. That's their prerogative and they'd be stupid not to exercise it.
(Meanwhile poor sad John Kerry once again misses the point and wants to resurrect the Fairness Doctrine so that talk radio will be more diverse. Classic loser issue for the Democrats. What's next? A bill to affirm the rights of Americans to burn the flag? I'm shocked that the normally sensible Dianne Feinstein would even flirt with the idea of bringing back the Fairness Doctrine.)
President Bush, you probably won't have another shot at Immigration legislation. But if you do, make sure you make it easier to understand.
Start with "immigration": That thar werdz got fore big sillables! Ow my hed hertz!!
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46. I love your Humor Mo and I love you on the Food Network...please stick to humor and food tasting....that's why you are loved....politics and comedy cause lots of alienation when you take sides. As for the Congress and the Senate..all of them should be fired...the Country would run oh so much more smoothly at the local levels where the people LIVE.
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dr at 7:26PM on Jun 28th 2007
47. Let's end the war in Iraq AND fix the illegal immigration problems at the same time.
We'll bring home the men and women that are serving in Iraq, put them finger tip to finger tip on both borders with orders to kill anything that moves. All people that are here now will get amnesty by default.
We won't close our borders but we will control them.
If Canada and Mexico don't like it, they can do the same thing on their borders. I'm sure there are as many people trying to get out as are trying to get in.
Matt at 7:19PM on Jun 28th 2007
48. Responding to "unenochedepasion", I understand that these illegals, or any immigrants for that matter, have the right to move to another place if it will make them feel like they have a chance for a better life. My problem is...if everything is SO bad down there in Mexico, then why don't they take their pro-immigrant parades and equal rights rallies DOWN TO MEXICO AND TRY TO CHANGE THE SITUATION THERE INSTEAD OF FORCING U.S. CITIZENS TO ACCEPT AND DEAL WITH THEIR PROBLEMS!!! I don't see any signs in grocery stores in Russian. I don't hear anyone from Ukraine or Taiwan complaining about not getting fair treatment. I don't see any people from Bolivia, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, etc. having to take MANDATORY LANGUAGE CLASSES IN HIGH SCHOOL like we have to with Spanish. Hell, why don't we teach all these languages? Why don't we print signs, food labels, and show movies in EVERY LANGUAGE so people will feel at home? IF THEY WANTED TO BE AT HOME THEY WOULDN'T HAVE LEFT THEIR DAMN COUNTRY!!!
Best In Texas at 7:33PM on Jun 28th 2007
49. If J. Kerry read the constitution before he didn't read it he would have known that IT has a fairness doctrine written into the Amedments. It is called the ....'right of free speech'. Blab all you want, on any subject, as long as you want! Sorry that water won't even hold a Swift Boat! He can even burn the flag if he likes!
Thomas McCabe at 7:41PM on Jun 28th 2007
50. I keep hearing that it is not physically possible to deport 12 million illegal immigrants. THEY do it every day! Stop at the Walmart in Brownsville Tx. and view the Mexican plates on the vehicles. Recently an illegal was arrested in Phoenix, the home Gov. Polillegalton, for a DUI that killed another driver. He was depoted 5 times for similar arrests! If they can find a way back they can find a way back to ole' sole a Mio!
Thomas McCabe at 7:55PM on Jun 28th 2007
51. Viva, Amexica!!!
marty at 8:02PM on Jun 28th 2007
52. This is for Parmis45:
You represent the part part of America that is just worthless!.
First of all let be honest here, I'm a Chef of a very important restaurant and you want to know something, most of my guys work here ilegally with a fake number and guess what; taxes are taken off their paycheck as much as they are taken from the American guys.
Oh talking about American guys, you might like to know that the American cooks are the ones with bad work ethic, little skills and a big attitude!!!.
If the bill was to passed my hispanic guys could have been legalized which could have been great for me and my country USA.
Oh and you might like to know I paid depending on how valuable an employee is worth to my operation, and my hispanic guys make sometimes a lot more than the American cooks, is not about colors or races is about wanting to keep your job.
Keep watching fox news parmiss45...that way you can hear just what you like to hear!!!
emanuel at 11:07PM on Jun 28th 2007
53. It is claimed that only 13% would have applied for citizenship if the Bill passed. Surprised! Why should they? The invisible untouchables have everything they want now! Why apply for taxation without representation and a war without reason. Gosh, they might even have to pay into SS!
Thomas McCabe at 8:04PM on Jun 28th 2007
54. Liz, It's very hard to be compassionate when my granddaughter who lives in Southern Cal. and has a
4.0 grade average loses a scholorship to someone with a lesser school record but has a hispanic name.
and when I see my friend who isn't able to work after working every day for 35 years being turned down for ss disability when I see people getting ss benefits without ever paying a dime into the system.
what especially galls me is seeing them with their parades, flying the Mexican flag high and the American flag is flown upside down...
how can they possibly win anyone to their side with this going on all over the country?
I understand why they want a better life but don't do it on the back of my family and friends..
jolie at 8:06PM on Jun 28th 2007
55. A NATION WITHIN A NATION: The decline of Western Civilization
Immigration bills currently before Congress to enforce border security and create programs for illegal immigrants to attain citizenship will do neither! If this Immigration bill is passed it will create a nation within a nation; islands of a privilaged class beyond that of present day Americans. The United States will cease to exist. What will remain will be two nations: one subject to federal laws and one autonomous. This NEW autonomous nation is as yet unnamed, but let us call it the new Hispaniola. Spanish will be their dedicated 'National' language. Islands gerrymandered from local municipalities; 'El Barrio', will have no allegiance to the Constitution. (Much like DC is now)
It remains to be seen if Hispaniola will be allegiant to this country they 'occupy'. If not, what seditious country would hold their allegiance?
Aliens living in Hispaniola islands will be exempt from Federal, State and Local income taxes, the draft ( If any), military service and all federal, state and local laws. Hispaniolians will be able to travel unimpeded, without restrictions, throughout Latin America carrying illegal contraband, without fear of prosecution, creating cross border havoc. As such they will have amnesty for past felony offences. The Border Patrol, crippeled as it is now, will become dysfunctional.
Hispaniola will displace towns, cities and villages and institute TRIBAL LAWS, enforced by 'conquistador's' AND CREATE AN ARMY OF INSURRECTIONISTS! This bill will give them what they really want which is NOT a path to citizenship. Their true goal is sovereignty or autonomy in Hispaniola; bulletproof status isolated from any criticism! Immunity!
As I type this, preparations are under way for this transformation of America by neo-subversive groups. In areas of California and the south, from Yuma, Az to Brownsville, Tx political control has diminished significantly. Phoenix, Az., a city rampant with immigraton related murders, drug trafficing and smuggling will follow California into islands: 'Mexicans Only'. Local authorities presently do what they can to stem the tide of illegal immigrants smuggling meth, drugs and new immigrants into Arizona but there efforts are blunted by federal restrictions. Islamic fundamentalism will only be a footnote compared to this grand revolution.
Think not? Think again. READ THE PROVISIONS OF THIS BILL. IT IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK. IT IS A DECLARATION OF SURRENDER! The Alamo Mission of San Antonio, a national shrine, may yet fly the Mexican flag. World War Two, the Korean War, Vietnam, Iraq, Pear Harbor: All that gave their lives defending the borders of the United States will have died for nothing........nothing! Support the troops? This bill will make a mockery of Arlington Cemetery. The United States Government will have surrendered itself to a foreign power. Dare not call it treason!
This is my opinion and premise but I ask why this legislation is 900 pages of fine print overriding all present immigration laws which now designate a path to citizenship?
The bill does not exactly spell out the suppositions that I make: the intent is there! The bill is designed to create a voting block for perpetual imposition of a Republican dominated Congress and subvert the Constitution! President Bush has nothing to lose! It will create just another bulletproof bureaucratic agency ( Of which there are many) to bypass constitutional mandates. The present Attorney General is paramount for his success: no checks and balances! Legislators are not reading what they endorse; corruption and deception are so endemic in DC, that they have become immune to it. One thing is clear. Border protection, in this legislation, is a myth, as it is now and will NEVER be funded or enforced.
A country that ignores its borders; forfeits its future. ( author)
Thomas at 8:20PM on Jun 28th 2007
56. The country is in immediate peril. North Korea and Iran are close to developing nuclear weapons. Pakistan and India have tested their own devices. This country should be on high alert and mobilized! All available manpower should be directed to protect our borders from invasion by terrorists. Then, I ask, why isn't there a draft? One answer that I can think of but ' Don't ask don't tell' !
A more sinister theory. No draft and no Gays have to be drafted or go. I wouldn't put anything past this Pres>>>>>>and no compulsory draft cards for illegal's . Remember you MUST carry your draft card. Think about that!!Nothing is coincidental. Nothing!
Thomas McCabe at 8:27PM on Jun 28th 2007
57. While I don't necessarily agree with Thomas' comments he does make a valid point. A nation, state or country that ignores its borders, and grants citizenship whimsically risks having its traditional values ignored, and its cities and countries sacked. Example? The Roman Empire. They also started granting citizenship and land to foreigners in a whimsical illogical manner, (of course these foreigners also were serving as their military because the romans were to lazy to fight their own battles, but that's a different issue.)
So, after granting land to a set of foreigners the Romans proceeded to piss them off, and these foreigners turned on the country that too them in, and marched on the capitol and attacked it.
Those that forget their past are doomed to repeat it. At any rate, I think Illegal Immigrants need to be shipped back to their country and barred from ever seeking citizenship in the United States because clearly they decided that they would not respect our laws, which is something that they would need to do as citizens. As far as legal immigrants... if they speak English more power to them, if they don't, that's a personal problem, and not an issue that our education system should have to address.
Tighten the border, ship the illegal immigrants back and tell them that their disrespect of our laws has cost them any chance of citizenship.
Joseph at 8:30PM on Jun 28th 2007
58. I CAN NOT BELIEVE THE IGNORANCE OF SOME PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG OR WHATEVER IT IS!!!!! ONE OF THE WRITERS STATES THAT IMMIGRANTS DO NOT PAY TAXES, WRONG, THEY DO!!! I AM AN IMMIGRANT, LEGAL SINCE 2001, EVEN BEFORE MY PAPERWORK WAS FILED THE GOVERNMENT WAS TAKING MY TAXES, THEY KNEW WHERE I LIVED, NOBODY EVER TOLD ME 'NO THANK YOU WE WILL NOT TAKE YOUR TAXES YOU ARE ILLEGAL' I KNOW I AM NOT ALONE BECAUSE I WORK WITH SOME IMMIGRANTS WHO WENT THRU THE SAME THING. THIS IS A WAR FOR THE GOVT. IF THEY WANTED TO TIGHTEN THE BORDERS, THEY CAN. BUT GUESS WHAT, THE BIGGEST TAXPAYERS AND CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTERS NEED THE CHEAP LABOUR TO MAKE A PROFIT IN THEIR VARIOUS BUSINESSES. THE GOVT CREATED THE PROBLEM AND NOW THAT WE ARE APPROACHING ELECTION TIME WE GET TO HEAR ABOUT IT. REMEMBER AMERICA'S HISTORY, EACH ERA HAD ITS VILLAIN WHEN IT COMES TO IMMIGRATION, ONE TIME IT WAS THE IRISH (REMEMBER THE MOVIE GANGS OF NEW YORK), THEN THE GERMANS.THOSE COMPLAINING THAT THE COUNTRY IS BEING OVERRUN BY IMMIGRANTS SHOULD PAUSE AND THINK WHAT THEY WOULD DO IF THEIR MILK COST THE SAME AS GAS. YOU CAN NOT HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT. UNLESS YOU ARE AMERICAN INDIAN, YOU ARE AN IMMIGRANT AND YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS POINTING FINGERS!!!!
mu at 11:40AM on Jul 1st 2007
59. Well, since they're not the ones being directly affected, they're just simply taking their sweet old time and smelling the roses, waking up in their big-a effin' house, in the moth--f----ng boondocks, with their unfaithful, wannabe-milf wifes taking care of their snot-nosed brats (The "true" and "rightful" americans, living their very peachy life, while toddlers (also american, in case nobody was aware) have to go through the pain of losing their parents and being stranded in this huge, cruel, country, THEIR country, alone and waiting. Entire families who want and pray for this "American Dream" that this nation gloats and gloats about, but chop off any hand that dares to reach for it. Then these asinine, and gluttonous pigs, the WASPS, REDNECKS, and even those decendants of immigrants who think of themselves as superior to the people that look so similar to them, kick people, like me, who only want to be a part of this self-procalimed "great"and "generous" nation. Its funny how i went through most of my life without even knowing the word "immigration". My parents brought me here when I was 5 months old. My first steps where here. Yet, according to the great americans (i mean that with oh, so, so much sarcasm) i broke the law and should leave. My family, as well as I, pay taxes and indeed contribute to the economy. I learned English and speak it quite fluently. I got an education, like it is required, and recently graduated high school (monday as a matter of fact). I wont be going to college, despite being eligible for scholarships, grants, all sorts of finacial aid, simply because, "I don't belong here". I can't get a licence, "because it is a privilege reserved for true americans". It's BS. There are so many others in the same situation as I'm in, and yet the government finds this issue so difficult. Oh, and I'm not complaining, I'm going with the flow. A little angry, but still going with it.
E at 8:45PM on Jun 28th 2007
60. Bush killed Saddam for killing 30 thousand Kurds to hold a pathalogically violent and primitive combination of religeous exteemist sects from murdering each other and maintaining some semblance of peace. There is no argument Iraq was much better of under Saddam. We had a nice standoff between Iran and Iraq. Now Bush has handed Iraq to Iran on a silver platter while the shia's twiddle their thumbs waiting for us to expend all our resources and leave (or should I say the money we borrow from China to keep this war going and worsen our unrecoverable national and trade deficit) - we will leave just like Vietnam. It's just a matter of how much money we piss away and how many brave young Americans we let get slaughtered for oil before we leave. We don't even care for our brave soldiers that come home in peices with dignity - living in rat and cockraoch infested slums like animals without medical care for months and years if ever.
Wave that flag! Wave that flag! Too hard to admit your kid died or was crippled for oil.
We leave orphaned innocet Iraqi children on concrete floors living in their own excrement starving; widowed Iraqi women driven to prostitution in Syria and Jordan to survive, and a horses ass of a draft dodging President conducting the chorus.
With a dropout rate of 25% high school students in Detroit and the rest of the country not far behind, it's easy to see why we have so many imbiciles waving the American flag yelling "Get them Iraqi's" - " Get em Good".
Nobody gets it. It's the illegals flooding the southern border that are the knife in our throat. You evangelical fools better hope Jesus Christ comes back and real quick. But your hypocrites and would never vote in a black president like Obama who might make some real difference. This country is sunk.
Bush Sr. was smart enough to send Saddam home with a spanking where he belonged to keep Iran "The real Threat" at least partially devoting some attention to them.
If we can kill almost 100 thousand (nobody admits the real #) of innocent Iraqi's half the world away that are no threat, why can't we shoot the damn illegals runnning across our border like ants and filling our strees with drugs. Don't be so stupid to think we have any security since 9/11. Osama Bin Lasden can get across the Mexican border with a suitcase nuclear bomb for a couple thousand. How do you think the Ukranian prostitutes got in here and took over the biz in LA?
I bet if we started shooting them they would stop coming. What do you think? Cruel - inhuman. So is this world. Alwys has been. Look around. It's kill or be killed. It's just a slow process.
Bring back the military from Iraq and defend America, Screw the Latin poitical groups quit listening to the bleeding hearts. I say shoot them when they cross. Want to bet they woudl stop flooding across - oh yeah - in a heartbeat.
This is our lives, our country, our jobs, our medical care, our retirement, our kids future. What don't people understand about illegal when it comes to illegal immigrants. The worlld is full of people worse off than them. Take a look at Sudan. It's time to get nasty if we want to save this country. They used to hang people for stealing a horse in Texas. What the hell happened to protecting this country. We're flooded by illegals. More jobs created under Bush - yeah at McDonalds and Wal Mart.
I don't care even a little what you think about my comments. This country was built on slavery and murdering the indigenous people. Every country was. You think we are above that now? Wait about 20 years until the chaos hits. You can all suck it. Especially the Latin protesters. If Americans cared about anything anymore they would flood you out of the streets every time you protest. Nobody gives a damn - thats whats wrong with this country now.
People act civilized only when they have the things they need. Take away freedom, jobs, food, water, and watch how fast we all turn into the Donner party. Civilization is a luxury bought in blood and death. The great industrial nation of America was built on slaves. Don't forget it. We like to forget our dirty little secrets when we are al so well off. When you forget that, you lose it. It will go the way of Rome.
Immigrate legally. After all - we are all immigrants except the native Americans. Somewhere in your family history someone came over here in a boat. Just becaus you're five or six generations later doesn't make you any better than anyone from anywhere who immigrates legally. As for illegals - do whatever it takes to stem the tide.
H.S. at 9:05PM on Jun 28th 2007