This time it's John Gibson on his radio show talking about how he knew the school shooting in Ohio was done by a black kid who listened to hip hop music! Except it was a white kid. Oooops.
Then he was certain that the kid at least listened to hip-hop music (which, by the way, is not the same as gangster rap, in case Gibson is interested in knowing anything before he speaks; it's also not jazz, I know it comes as surprise to Fox News hosts when all black entertainers do not immediately break out in rap). Except the kid was a Marilyn Manson fan. Oooops.
So, Gibson desperately tried to pin this shooting on blacks or black culture, ignoring the fact that almost all school shootings in America are committed by young, white males (which also doesn't prove anything), including this one. Then, at the end, he unbelievably turns it around and tries to make the shooting seem more classy because the kid shot himself at the end. According to John Gibson, "hip-hoppers" are so cold blooded they they walk away from a shooting and do it again. Is his implication that white murderers have the decency to kill themselves afterward? Does that make it better?
It seems hard to believe he'd say these things, right? Listen for yourself:
I am not for seeing racism everywhere (I even defended Don Imus), but for those of you who refuse to see it anywhere, please tell me why Gibson went into this rant against black folks before he knew any of the facts of the case and kept it up even when it turned out it was a white kid who listened to "white" music who did the shooting?
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Reader Comments ( Page 4 of 4)
46. While we are wondering why certain people aren't fired for what they say, could you let us know why you vote for and support Senator Byrd, former Grand Wizard of the KKK? Keep in mind the acts that he directed against blacks during the time he led Clan. Also he has never been charged with any crime but I don't think its stretching things to say that leading an organization thats only agenda is to terrorize and kill blacks requires that you direct those activities. When you self rightious folks take care of Byrd I'll be willing to listen to you wring your hands about what other people say that offends you. Byrd offends me and the fact he doesn't offend you says all that's needed about you.
GreatR at 6:58PM on Oct 15th 2007
47. I know this is going to sound stupid, but who cares. One of the leading causes of death for young black Americans is violence, mostly gun voilence. Most of those deaths are caused by other young black Americans. So, if I had heard that some black people had been shot, and I didn't know the race of the shooter I would probably assume that the shooter was black until I heard otherwise. That doesn't make me a racist, that makes me aware of the odds of a black person being murdered by anyone other than another black person. That said, Mr. Gibson shouldn't have made assumptions and given his oppinions on a story, as a reporter, until he had his facts right. In fact he should probably keep his opinions to himself from now on. Unless it's about how to get on a tv show that is supposed to inform people about issues without actually having a clue yourself. That's something I would like to hear about from Mr. Gibson.
David at 5:15PM on Oct 15th 2007
48. Gibson was not wrong to assume this was a black kid - he was just wrong when the facts came to light. The fact is that most violent crimes are committed by blacks (1,386 per 100,000 - murder and robbery). White Americans only commit 5.1 (the govt also includes mexicans into the White category) which is even fewer than the British (7.4) who are completely disarmed of their weapons, proving that Whites do not have a unique culture of violence nor inadequate gun laws. America has a high crime rate because we have something the Brits do not have: a large number of violent blacks. It's just that the white crimes are pushed to the top headlines and the black crimes (most of which are committed against whites - 45%) are ignored by the media. (source FBI Uniform Crime Report)
Ares at 5:10PM on Oct 15th 2007
49. Why is this man still on the air?
cdnbirch at 9:24PM on Oct 15th 2007
50. Great,
And how about Trent Lott, a present day KKKer, who has addressed their meetings with approving statements and endorosed Strom Thurmond's segargationist views?
cdnbirch at 9:26PM on Oct 15th 2007
51. Those who try to equate Trent Lott with Robert Byrd are dead wrong. Excuse me, but Lott was never in the Klan. He was a segregationist back in college. That was a long time ago and he's repudiated that stance. That's quite a bit different from being in the Klan.
And back at the time Lott was in college, there was a pretty fair number of folks, both black and white, who were also segregationists. While it's certainly nothing to brag about, we're clearly talking about apples and oranges here. But why let a few facts get in the way when we're trying to smear people?
Dave at 9:52PM on Oct 15th 2007
52. I'm caucasian...and i agree i hate idiots MaryAnn Young. ick!!!
jrae at 10:18PM on Oct 15th 2007
53. You know how many black kids do these school mass murders? None! Sure, they get in trouble connected with OTHER things but the phenomenon of kids walking into schools and opening fire is solely a white kid thing, speaking as a white person myself.
The bigger problem today is that we are not teaching our children to not push anyone away from them and to get to know everyone. Seriously, if this kid had a lot of friends, he probably wouldn't have done this.
It is always the loners, speaking as one myself.... though not really out of choice when I was in high school. Sure, I had a lot of FEMALE companionship during high school.... not so much friendships with people of both sexes.
Christopher Kidwell at 12:09AM on Oct 16th 2007
54. We can talk about this issue until doom’s day but the fact is this: FOX News Network, like all the other networks are not in the news business, they are in the entertainment business. Television, including the so-called “All News” networks, is all about entertainment; it is a “Ratings Equals Revenue” business; the more audience share a network garners the more profits they earn. It should be obvious to any one with a smidgeon of intelligence that in spite of their claims to be “Fair and Balanced”, FOX un-ashamedly panders to an audience that has a certain point of view. FOX carefully cultivates this audience and constantly feeds it the kind drivel that keeps it happy. Sean Hannity,Bill O’Reilly, John Gibson, and the rest of their ilk could not sustain if there was not a large audience share of Americans who’s hearts are full of the same kind of hatred and bigotry. The same can be said for the arrogant, biased and opinionated Nancy “Disgrace” and her supermarket tabloid show. These demigods are being well paid to give people what they want. And what their audiences want to feed on is the real tragedy. Wisdom is justified by her children”.
Makendoo at 11:20AM on Oct 16th 2007
55. You are a moron just like every other moron who takes one or two lines out of context to push your left wing stupidity. If you had bothered to listen to the entire program or more than one minute of the show. John's program for sometime has been trying to show some light on the problem of Black on Black killing and the problem of rap music glorifying the killing and "no snitching rule". When the first reports came out that there had been a shooting in a school that is 85% black, do you really expect me to believe that you knew it was a White kid because Black kids never shoot each other.He is right in the fact that Black killers usually don't shoot them selves after they kill. A lot of the White killers do. I don't know if it is a cultural or social reason. I don't think anyone does. but it is a fact. Take the time to research how many Black on Black killings there are just this year and how many White on White killings, all under the age of 25. then tell me there is not a problem. or that John should not be mentioning this on his show
Lee at 11:28AM on Oct 16th 2007
56. Lee
You cannot make excuses for or justify what John Gibson said. He is a highly paid professional broadcast journalist. He has an obligation to ascertain the facts before he reports a news story. In addition, he is not supposed to allow his personal prejudices and bigotry to color a story. He failed miserably on all counts and in doing so he cast dispersion on another group of people who were in fact the VICTIMS and not the perpetrators. Not satisfied, he then painted a totally false picture of the events he was supposed to be reporting on. Had he not been in such a hurry to blame blacks, their music or their life-style, he might have reported with accuracy that "A heavily armed youth with a history of mental problems has opened fire in a school. The youth, wearing a black trench coat, similar to the coats worn in the Columbine massacre, also had black painted finger nalis and was known to worship the Rock Musician, Marilyn Manson.The shooter ended his own life as the police closed in on him." Without mentioning any ones race, the above would have described what happened and who did the shooting. However, since Gibson works for FOX network he felt he had license to lie and libel a group of people who had nothing to do with this tragedy. If he had to say anything at all about race he might have said, "Black students attending an academically accelerated high school were attacked by a disgruntled and deranged white student. The heavily armed youth opened fire at several students and teachers then succumbed to self-inflected wounds before he could be arrested." That would have been much closer to the truth; there is no excuse for what Giobson said and it cannot be defended.
Makendoo at 12:39PM on Oct 16th 2007
57. white folk gone wild..while you are spew your vile venom at the black and brown man your kids are shooting up schools and becoming meth heads..can you blame al sharpton and jessie jackson for all the teachers having sex with black kids??how about chester (the mloester) stiles???raped a three year old girl..on tape.they did not listen to rap music either, nor are they black..how about that child molesting Richard Steve Goldberg ?? Christopher Paul Neil went on a rape/molest/ tour through asia and caught it all on tape, then posted the video on the web..sure john gibson is a blooming idiot but he is the least of your worries..you better watch the people in YOUR neighborhood...in your neighborhood...yes who are the peopke in your NEIGHBORHOOD..THEy'RE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU MEET EACH DAY...
suoires at 7:31AM on Oct 17th 2007
58. Suoires - You forgot to footnote that last part. That, people, was a song from sesame street. (I know because I have kids.) Nice touch....
Dave at 8:25AM on Oct 17th 2007
59. Someone has asked, "why is this man still on the air?" My question is simply. Why is there a Fox, and what are they going to do with themselves once George and Dick are gone?
Patty at 11:59AM on Oct 17th 2007