Why Atheists Are So Angry
I don't believe in unicorns, but then I haven't written any books called The End of Unicorns, Unicorns are Not Great, or The Unicorn Delusion. Clearly the atheists go beyond disbelief; they are on the warpath against God. And you can hear their bitterness not only in their book titles but also in their mean-spirited invective.
Here is a second reason the atheists sound so angry. They are not used to having their sophistries exposed. For the past three years the new atheists have had a virtually free ride. Dawkins and Hitchens make outrageous claims ("religion poisons everything") and media pundits like Lou Dobbs and Tim Russert fawn all over them.
But in the past few months I've been meeting the leading atheist spokesmen in open debate, and challenging them on the basis of the same reason and science and evidence that they say vindicates their claims. After my first debate with Michael Shermer, editor of Skeptic magazine, several atheists on Dawkins' site said, "Well, D'Souza won that debate, but wait till he meets Hitchens. Hitchens will wipe the floor with him. D'Souza RIP." Then after I debated Hitchens the atheists said, "Oh no, this one didn't go as planned. Hitchens didn't do so well." Another commented that atheists could not afford to lose two in a row. Even so, one atheist hopefully noted that Hitchens was not the right guy to debate me; rather, Daniel Dennett has the scholarly weight to do the job.
Now after my Dennett debate, what's the verdict? Well, the audience was full of Dennett supporters who began with enthusiastic applause for him but, as the debate went on, fell largely silent. Several came up to me afterward and told me that I had won. Dennett himself seemed dispirited after the event. Even so, when I posted the debate on my blog, the atheists went into damage control mode. The debate was instantly posted on atheist sites, and atheists rushed to this blog to vote Dennett the winner. This effort gave atheists an early lead, but when the votes were tallied I was the victor. Interestingly my margin of victory was even bigger than that for the resolution, suggesting that several people voted that "God Is a Man-Made Invention" and still thought I won the debate.
A good way to assess a debate is to see what the partisans on each side say. Among Christians the verdict is unanimous. Sample comment from Townhall.com: "My heart went out to Professor Dennett because he was so totally over-matched in this debate You totally demolished him as you have the other atheists you have debated." But all you have to do is to go to atheist sites to see that many atheists also think that I won, although this is sometimes very grudgingly admitted. Here is a sampling of comments that I've taken from richarddawkins.net. "I was at the debate and thought Dennett did not prove his point." "I'm so tired of these D'Souza debates. The more people we send his way the larger his smile grows." "I feel such debates should stop." "I love Dennett's ideas about atheism but I do think he handled this debate poorly against Dinesh." "Ok, Dennett sucked...Dennett's type of responses just made him look like an ass." "Dinesh is an amazingly talented orator, considering how hopeless a case he is arguing." "Hitchens has had a shot, as has Dennett, and neither has succeeded in demolishing D'Souza. D'Souza has a very effective debating technique. Not only did a lot of atheists get up and fire straw-man arguments at D'Souza that he was easily able to counter and make them look foolish, but Dennett...lost his composure and his train of thought." "Let's face it, this guy has taken our best shots and still come out looking good. Maddening."
So where does this leave the atheists? These guys now seem to be 0-3. Some of the blog posters on Dawkins' site are calling on Sam Harris and Dawkins himself to step into the ring. Harris seems willing, although he has approached me about doing a written rather than an oral debate. Dawkins continues to avoid my invitation to debate on a secular West Coast campus, leading one atheist to dub him Richard the Chickenhearted. I really hope that Dawkins proves he has the courage of his convictions. (How brave is it to beat up on former televangelist Ted Haggard?) Otherwise the self-styled "brights" are going to face the empirical fact that when it comes to defending their views, atheists are basically losers. Remarkably, the "party of reason" is simply incompetent to vindicate those claims against an advocate of the "party of faith." Now what could be more embarrassing than that?
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Reader Comments ( Page 1 of 80)
1. "I don't believe in unicorns, but then I haven't written any books called The End of Unicorns, Unicorns are Not Great, or The Unicorn Delusion."
How can a man who beleives he is intelligent display so clearly just how far he has missed the point by?
The reason there is no books on unicorns not existing is because no one has stepped up and used unicorns to tell the rest of us how to live. No one bans stem cell research because of unicorns, nor condemns harmless minorities like homosexuals, nor preaches the evils of condoms, or tries (as many have in the US) to replace aspects of our childrens education with creationism theory.
No dinesh, you dont read these books, but try to use unicorns to show us how and why we need to live your way and all of a sudden you will do.
Gavin McBride at 9:20AM on Feb 12th 2008
2. "...you will find no comparable invective on the Christian side"
Of all the lies Dinesh has told (and they are many), this is perhaps the most shameless & blatant falsehood he has ever written.
Jason at 11:07PM on Jun 23rd 2008
3. Well Dinesh is Gloating and patting himself on the back no doubt, and while I do not agree with such behaviour , one thing you can be sure of by watching those debates is that Dinesh had indeed won, you sure can bet that if Dinesh had done badly then Richard Dawkins would have gained the courage to debate Dinesh, but even athiests if they are honest and objective would admit, Dinesh had won those debates, and good for Dinesh.
chris at 6:12PM on Jul 23rd 2008
4. dinesh, you are full of bs and you know it. you even resort to name-calling.
Richelle at 12:09AM on Dec 5th 2007
5. Wow Dinesh, now all you need is one iota of proof that gods exist. Too bad you're too busy patting your own back and blaming atheists for all the evil in the world.
Brian Westley at 12:10AM on Dec 5th 2007
6. you've become quite the expert at picking out only the facts that support your claims and ignore everything else.
Richelle at 12:11AM on Dec 5th 2007
7. Well said. You are so right Dinesh.
People get so angry, why do they
even read this blog? Honestly people.
Rett R. at 12:16AM on Dec 5th 2007
8. and AGAIN, how can atheists hate something they DO NOT BELIEVE EXISTS!?!?! that would be like people being asked "do you believe in unicorns?" with a reply "no, and i hate them!!!"
Richelle at 12:14AM on Dec 5th 2007
9. If people want to be atheists, why do they want to convince others to be like them? Can't they just be and let be? What have they got to lose? Or maybe they just like to feel POWERFUL. I say that if they think God does not exist, what does anything else that people believe matter to them, if their is no accountability to a supreme being? I am speaking from a non-religious view...Doesn't it take as much faith to not believe than to believe?
rudy at 1:36AM on Dec 7th 2007
10. Interestingly my margin of victory was even bigger than that for the resolution, suggesting that several people voted that "God Is a Man-Made Invention" and still thought I won the debate.
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did you happen to notice that the total numbers of votes were not even equal? and besides, it's not like you were conducting a Gallup survey, the thing is on aol! i was in the computer lab at the college i attend earlier today and, if i felt so inclined, i could have gotten on any and every available computer and cast a new vote making my vote count more than once. using that as a point in your argument damages your credibility even more than you have already done. congrats on giving me another reason to believe that you can't argue a point to save your life.
Richelle at 12:22AM on Dec 5th 2007
11. Yes Dinesh, we are angry at you spreading lies and disinformation. Get a life!
Grace at 12:23AM on Dec 5th 2007
12. Dinesh-You are the epitome of a COMPLETELY self-absorbed cretin. Shut up. Please.
Bill at 12:26AM on Dec 5th 2007
13. It amazes me that people sit here and rag on this guy. If he really pisses you off, don't read the blog. You're putting yourselves in a situation where you know you'll get angry. That's more dumb than anything on any blog.
Rett R. at 12:30AM on Dec 5th 2007
14. furthermore dinesh, for you to turn your topics into competitions is disgusting. people should be talking about the different beliefs systems as a means for ALL to gain insight. how would you ever expect to become a more understanding individual and a better thinker by stating things like, "These guys now seem to be 0-3." your arrogance makes you incapable of growing intellectually. at times i wonder if the reason you're so sure god exists is because you believe that you ARE god.
Richelle at 12:30AM on Dec 5th 2007
15. http://evolutionfacts.blogspot.com
prffsrx at 12:34AM on Dec 5th 2007