It appears Muslim fundamentalists just assassinated Benazir Bhutto in Pakistan. It is not entirely clear they were responsible however. Not only was there a bombing (usual trademark of fundamentalist attacks), but Bhutto was also shot. So, it could be some other forces in Pakistan who were opposed to the former Prime Minister, including the government of Pervez Musharraf (after the assassination, Bhutto supporters were chanting, "Dog, Musharraf, Dog.").
If it was religious fundamentalists, it wouldn't be the first time. It would be about the one billionth time religious folks have resorted to violence to settle disputes. And they usually kill people trying to bring peace or empower others. Egyptian President Anwar Sadat was killed by a Muslim fundamentalist for making peace with Israel. Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin was killed by a Jewish fundamentalist for trying to make peace with the Palestinians. While Christian fundamentalists are busy trying to create the next Armageddon so we can all die. What a pleasant lot.
Why do they do this? Because they're supposed to. Read the Bible, the Torah and the Koran. They are all full of violent, bloody fantasies that teach you over and over to kill your enemies. Christians love to think they are the exception to this rule. They'll say the Old Testament doesn't really apply anymore because the New Testament overruled all the gory, masochists violence of the earlier book. So, then I guess Genesis isn't true either since that's in the Old Testament? Oops.
Then, you'll get the excuse that Jesus was the Prince of Peace. Yeah, I know, that's why in Matthew 10:34 he says, "Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." Sounds down right Christian of him.
But even if you can make up pathetic excuses for this obvious blood-lust and call to violence, it doesn't matter. Because in the end Jesus murders almost all of us anyway. Jesus doesn't just kill the "liars" and the "sexually immoral" and the eight other categories of people who get thrown in "fiery lake of burning sulfur." He kills all of the "unbelieving" folks as well. If you don't believe in Jesus, you get the lake of fire! What a swell guy.
In most interpretations of Islam, Jesus is the prophet that returns at the end of time to kill everyone, too. The fundamentalist Jews also believe in a Messiah that comes to kill everyone and start the world over again. So, pretty much every major religion agrees -- God is a murdering tyrant.
If you don't kiss God's ass enough, he will kill you. And then for good measure, he will roast you over an open fire for the rest of time. You know who does torture? God does. If you don't believe in him and grovel at his feet for eternity he will torture you forever. That's what your religion teaches you and you want me to respect that?
You know what I say to that -- Hell no!
If Jesus really comes back to kill everyone (except his sycophants who sucked up to him enough to earn his pitiful mercy), then I'll fight him. He is a ruthless, bloody, senseless killer. The worst tyrant the world has ever seen. All of the religions believe in this absurd, sick fantasy. Then they wonder why their followers wind up starting wars and killing people who disagree with them.
Plenty has been written about how Christianity was made up in the Council of Nicaea by a bunch of bishops who cherry-picked inconsistent accounts to serve their political purposes (that is a slightly over-simplistic account, but everyone acknowledges that the Bible was written decades after Jesus died and was assembled by others who never knew Jesus or heard what he actually said).
How can anyone know this, and still believe in this nonsense? For the sake of sanity, I will assume that people who still believe in organized religion are ignorant of its history (and believe me, Judaism, Islam and Hinduism have equally ridiculous histories -- to people who aren't brainwashed by these cults, the most amusing thing is to watch one cultist claim that all the other religions are wrong but his is right).
But you can't claim you don't know the ending. Everyone knows what happens at Armageddon. Almost all of us get killed by God. Knowing this, you expect us to respect that guy? Why should I? He plans to murder me.
This is the point when believers will tell you that you have a choice and you can avoid Jesus killing you if you just promise your unending loyalty to him (and presumably watch him kill the rest of humanity in front of your eyes). I think Saddam Hussein used to say something similar. So did Stalin and Mao and every other dictator in the world. If you promise me your loyalty, then I won't murder you.
No thanks. I don't have to respect that. In fact, we are doing the world a great injustice by still respecting this lunacy.
The funny thing is how touchy religious people are. They will get offended at the drop of a hat. Christians reading this now are so mad they can hardly contain themselves. Just calm down, your God promises to torture me forever anyway. What can you do to me that he can't?
Meanwhile, Muslims are sharpening their swords as we speak. They get to shoot people in the neck and watch them bleed to death, as they likely did to Bhutto today, but we can't publish a frikin' cartoon of their prophet? Muslims who don't understand the irony of saying, "I will kill you if you say my religion is violent" are the dumbest people on earth.
So, we have to live with these barbarians. But I don't have to respect them. They can say anything they like about us and even look forward to the day where we all die a fiery death at the hands of their Leader. But we can't offend them? Please.
If you are offended by the fact that your religion is made up, cruel, violent, barbaric and ridiculous, that's your problem, not mine. If I'm right, you're living your life based on a silly lie. If you're right, I'll be murdered by your prophet and then roasted in hell for eternity. I think it's fair to say I should be the one offended.
For the record, I'm not. Harry Potter is just as likely to come to life and kill me for not believing in him as Jesus Christ is. I'm not offended by your sad, little fantasies. But please spare me your righteous indignation about how I hurt your feelings.
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Reader Comments ( Page 6 of 49)
76. What an ass!
Christians are "trying to create the next armageddon"?
When was the last armageddon?
Not that surprising a comment from an obviously jaded source of young idiots with but one cohesive agenda......a socialist America.
The religion of non-religion is nothing more than new age fluff on an old idea.
The fact is that SCIENCE of all things has proven that Christians enjoy some things that those without faith do not.
1. Longer Life expectancy.
2. Less depression.
3. Heal faster.
4. More finacially secure.
5. Have a generally more positive outlook on life.
If these are the torments of faith in Christ then bring them on........turks!
So while we (as Christians) do have a belief in "armageddon" I have yet to meet a Christian who is actively trying to "create it".
But thank you for generalizing, exagerating and generally demeaning "my religion".
Keep up the good work...lol.
Greg at 6:08PM on Dec 27th 2007
77. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire [see Planet On Fire!]. This is the second death, the lake of fire; and if any one's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:11-15 RSV)
So there is the blackmail Cenk was talking about.
Heidi at 6:14PM on Dec 27th 2007
78. Translation, Lake of fire = family with red hair. Church's are dams of people considered water. Also known as the damned.
Eric at 6:35PM on Dec 27th 2007
79. Wait, Jim Coster - you were/are an attorney AND a Harvard Honors Grad? And you still do not know how the syntax of sentence structure operates? You don't know how to use a dictionary? You don't realize that actual intelligent folks, and not posers such as yourself, will read your posts and know you are a big phoney?
Give me a break buster! You are sooo busted. And if you are as you say, I can only be made more proud of my public higher education, for your education was in vain and a total waste of your parents money. Have you paid them back yet? Probably not. It's hard making ends meet when you have those big student loan payments to make on a McDonalds salary
I pity any clients you may have, if you are in fact a JD.
nchilada at 6:44PM on Dec 27th 2007
80. What a long winded sermon, Cenk. Are you going to get off your pulpit now? Why should you care about Buhtta's death, she was religious, so you had no respect for her right? It's funny how people that complain about the intolerance of certain members of a group (that they lump together as one), never see themselves as intolerant. Perhaps this world simply needs more mirrors. Your speech is just as hateful and intolerant as those you accuse.
Mel at 6:46PM on Dec 27th 2007
81. Anyone for a Constitutional Amendment abolishing religion?
Eric at 6:46PM on Dec 27th 2007
82. Blue Oblivion, my wife says 'you come across as very intelligent'. Let's replace religion with intelligence!
Eric at 6:55PM on Dec 27th 2007
83. Please don't overgeneralize about Christians. My father was a Christian, but he did not believe all the nonsense in the Bible, like the genocides allegedly encouraged by God.
So if Christianity is the right religion, it will surely be like what my father believed, not the versions of the Bible thumpers.
Tom Martin at 7:13PM on Dec 27th 2007
84. You need to check your history! I always love how religion always takes the rap for everything bad and never gets credit for anything good. As if you could separate some parts of western civilization but not others from the church... you can't... get over it. And where exactly did you learn about Christianity? the Tim lahay website?
Jenn at 7:42PM on Dec 27th 2007
85. I have no intention of ever respecting religion. It not only is wholly unworthy of my respect, the gurgling, gesticulating crowd of god-soaked, brainwashed lemmings certainly doesn't respect me for my beliefs.
Religion is simply the hideaway for lazy, anti-intellectual cowards who lack both the ambition and the gray matter to figure the world out on their own. It's a security blanket no one but the most pathetic needs, and this so-called faith has become an anchor to true human progress.
What these assholes call faith, most rational people would define as cowardice, hatred, or outright stupidity.
Dan at 8:07PM on Dec 27th 2007
86. Mr. Martin, I am glad your father did not believe in the nonsense in the bible. I would like to point out that it is not the christians like your father that most athiests and non christians take issue with, sure there are extreme athiests that hate all things christians but it is born out of the intolerance shown by the vocal christians that try to shove their fundamentalist views down everyone elses throat. I personally see the reason some people need to believe in something greater than themselves. That does not mean that I believe in the same idea and it also does not mean that my beliefs are of any less value than theirs. That is what is so great about the ideals of our counry we are free to believe as we see fit regardless of what the majority believes. Fundamentalists are the people who give christianity a bad name not athiests. I don't force my ideas down anyones throat and expect the same in return however I have not been given that in my experience. I have been called a godless abomination, I have been called scum and all because I don't follow the same beliefs as christians. How is that following the teachings of Jesus? I have read the bible. I was raised in a christian home so I am not making assumptions about the religion, I know it. I don't think that many so called christians follow the teachings anymore, I am not sure if they ever have. Christianity in my opinion has become a way of judging others based on their beliefs. Not exactly what Jesus was intending assuming Jesus actually said the things attributed to him. Also, historically religion has caused the majority of wars whether directly or indirectly. I do not see how that can be disputed. Just sayin.
Heath at 8:14PM on Dec 27th 2007
87. #14 rhodalee says,; "Linda, because you are an atheist does not necessarily mean the elevator goes all the way to the top, you twit!
Pro-Zionists are the ruination of the world. They steal the Palestinians land , build settlements on the 2 mile line in Gaza, hold back electric and food, have tanks trained on, what is supposed to be a home, at all times, 8 yr olds shot for tossing rocks, bulldoze what roof they happen to have over their heads, given curfews, AIPAC and you must be Likud buddies, Israel is not one of the 10 Countries allowed by the non-proliferation Treaty to have Nukes, they have between 40 - 65, what the hell was with 6 September 2007 over Syria, oh what, what, because people called PALESTINIANS have had their land over run pre and post WWII, their borders were constantly moved, then the good ol' 6 day war, those were the days, huh? A Zionist would die right here and now before they referred to a Palestinian as anything than an Arab, call then by their rightful name, damnit, PALESTINIANS."
Whoa !! I found something that I'm in agreement with rhodalee?!? Surely the end is near!
lizard at 8:22PM on Dec 27th 2007
88. Hmmm....this article seems more like an emotional rant than a logical argument.
Fas321 at 8:35PM on Dec 27th 2007
89. Why waste time or the brain space with superstitious fantasies about floating sky-pixies?
Christians in this nation love to whimper and blubber about persecution, yet they fail to realize, they deserve it. They constantly overstep the boundaries dictated by the establishment clause, they lie and rewrite history to attain some sort of pathetic relevance, and they seek to indoctrinate the children of those who do not need their foolish and worthless mythology.
Now, I noticed Greg at Number 77 failed to provide a source for his "science." My guess is that it comes from "Focus on the Family" or some pseudo-Christian shill-tank with no regard for actual truth or even peer-reviewed scientific study.
So, spare us your "science" Greggers. Like your faith, it's just a massive collection of bullshit, and you foolish bastards have been rolling in it for so long, you're starting to stink up the whole damn planet.
If any of you goons would like to prove your god is real and your faith is strong, by all means, please go put your heads on the railroad tracks as a train is coming and pray for your god to save you by making that train float through the air over your little nuggets.
Dan at 8:35PM on Dec 27th 2007
90. Mr.Cenk Uygur, i will keep it short.
I Don't Respect Your Religion too, not at all.
dieth at 8:36PM on Dec 27th 2007