Remember how happy Israel was when Bush delivered the $30 Billion worth in weapons, well Saudi Arabia is just as happy with the $20 Billion worth in weapons Bush is going to give them. Seriously, who the fuck gives George W Bush a medal?
The war drum is obviously beating. Bush is touring his Middle Eastern allies with gifts of weapons worth Billions and asking them to mobilize for war, during the same tour has been giving speeches about how evil and dangerous Iran is to the rest of the world. He wants another war, I am curious, are Americans going to support a third Bush war in the middle east? Or will you be cheering for Wexler tonight?
Another statistic to consider is a study West Point conducted recently, the results indicated that 41% of foreign fighters (terrorists, suicide bombers whatever you want to call em, those guys who attack Americans) in Iraq are from Saudi Arabia. There are actually more Moroccans fighting Americans in Iraq than Iranians! Sorry, this is all very insane to watch develop, so don't listen to me, here are some links, form an opinion.
Wapo: US Plans New Arms Sales to Gulf Allies - July 28th 07.
NYT: U.S. Plans Sale of 900 Missiles to Saudi Arabia -Jan 15th.
AP: Congress likely to OK Saudi arms deal - Jan 14th.
CNN - Impact of Saudi Arms deal - Jan 14th.
TDS - History of Arms sales - Jul 26th 07.
Below is a recent segment of PBS Newshour discussing the Bush Visit to Saudi Arabia.
Reader Comments ( Page 2 of 2)
16. what are we getting in return a promise of lower oil prices gwb loves great photo ops so until he finds the wmd in iraq he cant be believed
charles at 7:42AM on Jan 16th 2008
17. Does anyone else wonder why we have 20 billion dollars in weapons lying around?
Strados at 7:43AM on Jan 16th 2008
18. Propping up the repressive Saudi monarchy: all part of the Bush plan for bringing "democracy" to the Middle East.
emelpe at 7:43AM on Jan 16th 2008
19. Major Bullshit aka Captain SFB
PNAC read and I think it is a fine plan to strengther the USA with this opinion think tank.
You must be happy that the Chairman of the PNAC william Kristol was hired as an op ed writer for the NY Times, the worlds most famous liberal publication. Certainly gives credability to Kristol and PNAC,
And all the other hot air and bull shit, repeating much of what I had already written, but forgetting Clintons arms sales to the Middle East countries. How could you forget, miss billions of arms sales made by Clinton to Saudies. Not even a mention,
You argue/debate like an old woman (written nicely) when you losing or cannot think of anything original to say, change the subject. Just like a woman.
Did you read the Article in the feb 1997 Atlantic Monthly, "The Capitalist Threat" or the book "The Age of Fallibility" or are your aware of the "Open Society Institute"?
The PNAC set down ideas on ways to keep USA strong in the world. It is somewhat like the Truman Doctrine which saw a communist behind every tree threatening the USA. Some called the Doctrine the Domino theory of commie expansion. So Truman put
his plan into action and supplied 400 million in covert aid to Greece in Turkey to keep all the big bad Russias out of those countries. That is when Cold War is said to have started, at the hands of a Democrat President.
ROBERT OKANE at 3:10PM on Jan 16th 2008
20. So you finally took a look at the PNAC. I told you all along that you would approve of it. I told your comrade-in-arms, Thomas J. Gassett, the same thing.
Now that you have looked into it, you can stop pretending that the Bush Junta hasn't ALWAYS PLANNED THE INVASION AND OCCUPATION OF IRAN.
You must be embarrassed. You and Gassett, both.
What do you think about the part where the neocons want to take control of the Internet, for "national security" purposes?
What do you think about the part of the plan which calls for a new COLD WAR with China replacing the failed Soviet Union, to justify MASSIVE budgets to keep America's economy afloat?
What do you think of never-ending war?
Oh, wait, you already answered. You support ALL of those things.
If you're an example of the Green Party membership, it's no wonder you guys can't get your party mentioned in the media, much less win a significant election.
You're a rabid dog, OKANE. You and your mentor, Thomas J. Gassett.
Captain Negative at 3:43PM on Jan 16th 2008
21. As for arms sales, so what. It is to a a friendly country to the USA, and can used the arms as ANY other country does, protect itself from internal or external enemies.
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Iraq was a friendly country. Never threatened us. We invaded to supposedly bring democracy (well, after trying some other excuses first). Saudi Arabia is as un-democratic as it gets, but Bush sells them weapons. Yea, that makes a lot of sense.
I just love seeing the pictures of Bush hugging and kissing and walking arm in arm with his Saudi buddies...
emma at 4:48PM on Jan 16th 2008
22. 2. These same weapons will probably be used against us eventually.
Adam at 7:08PM on Jan 15th 2008
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Yes, and again we will have the receipts to prove they came from us!
Patty at 6:44PM on Jan 16th 2008
23. Major Bullshit, wash the blood off your hands before pointing your bloody Liberal Fascist finger at others. Bush was not the only supplier of arms to the Saudies, Clinton and others did the same.
ROBERT OKANE at 4:10AM on Jan 16th 2008
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Right, do you not get it Captain? If others did it, if he did it (Clinton that is) sooooooooooo, why not the Bush kid???
Liberal Fascist??? Here we go again with the miss-information or bad jokes, which ever! Mr. Okana, did you study WWII in junior high??? (maybe you are too old to remember, or maybe you are young and the school system these days sucks...) Or have you ever taken the time to look up the word F-A-S-C-I-S-T in the dictionary???
I think maybe you should, so that you can learn how and when to use the word F-A-S-C-I-S-T. Right now it does not sound too bright. I understand why you keep shoving it and over using it on your post. It is sooooooo Republican of you, you really are very, very good. The best part is when you use the bloody hand thing. Man, you guys are too much! Gota love it, all that twisting, lying, coloring facts and those out there who do not know any better buy into all this crap. I said it before, brilliant just a brilliant strategy! Good soldier, must get your memos just on time. Work for fox, do you???
Patty at 6:45PM on Jan 16th 2008
24. 17. Does anyone else wonder why we have 20 billion dollars in weapons lying around?
Strados at 7:43AM on Jan 16th 2008
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What a great question!
Our troops don't have all the right equiptment they need to fight and to protected themselves (Oh, yes but "You fight with the army you got" according to Rumsfeld. One more idiot in the line of so many) and we are selling stuff to the Saudis.
Anything wrong with this picture???
Patty at 6:46PM on Jan 16th 2008
25. I just love seeing the pictures of Bush hugging and kissing and walking arm in arm with his Saudi buddies...
emma at 4:48PM on Jan 16th 2008
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You do??? Makes me want to vomit!! Of course, I want to vomit anytime I see the Dicider, or break my TV set!!!
Patty at 6:47PM on Jan 16th 2008
26. Another republican is indicted today for aiding Muslim terrorists. He was allegedly laundering money, knowing it was going to Al-Qaeda and
the Taliban.
For all of OKANE's finger-pointing, he continually hides the best examples of republicans making sure that Muslim extremists get our best weapons.
He deliberately fails to mention the Reagan/Bush, "OCTOBER SURPRISE." You know, the one where the republicans made a secret weapons transfer
deal with Iran in exchange for holding the U.S. hostages until the day Reagan was innaugurated.
Then there was "IRAN/CONTRA" where the Reagan/Bush team sold arms to Iran to finance their illegal death squads in Nicaragua.
The republican record for supporting terrorists is shameful. OKANE knows it. We've discussed it before.
Now Bush is making sure that Saudi Arabia (with its extensive ties to the Bush family) has the latest weapons, even though Saudi Arabia is financing the very people we are fighting in Iraq.
Treason. OKANE and Thomas J Gassett are all for it.
Captain Negative at 6:55PM on Jan 16th 2008
27. 26. Another republican is indicted today for aiding Muslim terrorists. He was allegedly laundering money, knowing it was going to Al-Qaeda and
the Taliban.
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Yes, and if it weren't so horrible, it would actually be funny! IF found guilty they should hang the bastard!!!
Maybe one of the "Cut and Run Liberals" or better yet a bunch of our finest fighting in Iraq can do the honors!!!
Patty at 7:52PM on Jan 16th 2008
28. What a surprise - it appears that Robert Okane is not only a raging neo-conservative, confrontational bigot, but we can now also add sexist to the list...
"You argue/debate like an old woman (written nicely) when you losing or cannot think of anything original to say, change the subject. Just like a woman."
Way to go, Bob! Maybe you should approach Fox News with your antagonism and clever talking points - you could be the next Bill O'Reilly.
Elaine at 5:25PM on Jan 17th 2008
29. Bush is afraid of Jewish lobbyists and Israel who have recently instructed him to ignore US Intelligence and instead follow foreign Israeli intelligence and start war with Iran to serve Israel and betray US interests! But you'll never read a single word of critizicism about Israel in the US MEDIA because it is forbiden to do so. Seriously everyone is critiisized BUT Isreal. Does that strike NO ONE as strange. Fine - then I guess the USA has to just do what they say. Let's get ready to start War With IRAN. Bush is a coward!
john at 12:21AM on Jan 18th 2008