31. news2008America,

Trying to give Hillary credit for Bill's great economy is just another example of her Hillary's hyperbole.

Hillary has been exposed as a power-grabbing, political hack who seems to think she has some "entitlement" to the position of president because her husband did a good job.

Captain Negative at 1:40PM on Mar 11th 2008

32. Robert Okane is to the right of Atilla the Hun, and certainly to the right of the mainstream republican. But he says he is a memeber of the Green Party and voted for Ralph Nader twice.

He says that he voted for Obama (either he is lying about not voting for him in a primary or he voted for him in Illinois) but a day or so later he claims that all democrats, black and white, are racists and gays. He voted (he says) for the very party he says is gay and racist.

He's a fascist but he votes for the Green Party. He's a fascist but he voted for the "gay and racist party."

He either cannot remember his own lies, or he is completely insane. He gives litte history lessons which are always the polar opposite of the truth. He is.... INSANE OKANE.

Captain Negative at 1:46PM on Mar 11th 2008

33. Captain - Why is it you guys on the left never seem to be concerned about Communist "Death Squads?"

Dave at 4:14PM on Mar 11th 2008

34. "Not on my watch" bwahahahahah who the hell does this idiot cenk think he is...... OH ya hes the one who will bring a pitch fork to the Dem convention what an azz you are the Dem's are at each others throats and its a play out of the republican hand book get a clue you idiots these politicians from both sides are cut from the same cloth if you think the Dem's have more morals then the republicans or that republicans have more morals then democrats chances are you not old enough to vote

jparchery02 at 2:10PM on Mar 11th 2008

35. To: Captain Negative - Jimmy Carter was caught so flat footed by the Russian invasion that all he could do was keep our athletes home from the Moscow Olympics. To think that he was smart enough or had the balls to "create" a Russian Viet-Nam is ludicrous. Go read about Charlie Wilson, idiot, or just see the movie, it will be easier on you. Which morphed into the Taliban, Al_Q, etc. - then he would have to take credit for that as well.

Carter - lines around the block for gas, Iranian hostage crisis, 18% interest rates, 10% unemployment, failed rescue mission in the desert for want of a $3 filter on the helicopters to prevent dust intake after he had dismantled the military budget - you must have been in grade school when he was President or high.

OpenYourBlindEye08 at 2:47PM on Mar 11th 2008

36. Gary Hart on Hillary Clinton's betrayal of the party..

"By saying that only she and John McCain are qualified to lead the country, particularly in times of crisis, Hillary Clinton has broken that rule, severely damaged the Democratic candidate who may well be the party's nominee, and, perhaps most ominously, revealed the unlimited lengths to which she will go to achieve power. She has essentially said that the Democratic party deserves to lose unless it nominates her."

Bill Bradley on Billary...

"The Clintons do not do long-term planning. They’re total tacticians and right now their focus is on Obama, not McCain."

Captain Negative at 2:48PM on Mar 11th 2008

37. OPENYOURBLINDEYE, take your own advice, numb-nuts. Open your own blind eyes.

You said I should get the real story from a Hollywood movie. What a moron

And those gas lines started in the Nixon administration you fucking cretin.

Captain Negative at 2:52PM on Mar 11th 2008

38. #22 You are right on the mark. Riding around on Air Force One as part of a diplomatic traveling contingent and meeting with women and aid workers hardly qualifies as "experience" and taking credit for the negotiations of others. Unfortunately, it is ten times more than Mr. Obama can claim.

Making a speech at an anti-war rally is a 50-50 proposition, if the aftermath had been handled and planned for properly and Iraq was stable now, he can still say, well, I sure didn't like that and we are still spending too much money, and our troops died, etc., etc., all good Democratic positions. It still remains to be asked why it took him 11 months to speak out against the war once he got to the Senate - waiting on others to take the lead. If you are so dead set against the war and end it why not vote no on funding EVERY time it came up as a matter of conviction?

OpenYourBlindEye08 at 2:56PM on Mar 11th 2008

39. Hey Big Guy,

I say we let Obama do his own fighting. Think about it, Obama knocks out Hillary, he takes over as the political machine to beat for the next decade.

It seems, the Clinton political machine is close to being undone by Obama, but don't think for a second that they are going down easily.

My 2 cents: If Hillary is going to get the nomination and keep the Clinton power base intact...she's going to have to go postal.

It's going to be a lively summer boss.

Willet at 3:12PM on Mar 11th 2008

40. maybe we need to change the way a candidate gets the nomination.
every Democrat should get one vote, and the candidate with the most
votes should represent the party. then we wouldn't get stupid
pitchfork comments.

maybe neither Hillary or Obama are evil, they
just want to win, so they can do their view of good for the country.
all this stabbing at each other wouldn't be happening if we didn't
have our election process set up to allow it.

there really is little
difference in what they plan to do, Hillary just has more experience
with the pitchfork carriers from being in washington for 8 years and
having so many of her good efforts sabotagued. how pathetic that in
our govt, there is so much baggage involved in doing any true good.
she has my vote, cause i think she has more experience in deflecting
blows from people who would rather antagonize her than appreciate anything she has done in her life, like this pitchfork guy. i bet she got better grades in school than you did. she graduated at the top of her class, did you? you are like the guy at home watching football griping superiorly about the coach, when you doesn't have the skills to be a coach at all, or one of the players you thinks you are better than. far easier to be a critic. give her a break.

you won't know what a "young jerk" you sound like, until you have a daughter that gets bashed for trying to be more than a cheerleader. all the candidates in BOTH parties took shots at each other before they dropped out. this is no different. it is a shame it ever comes to that, but i blame it more on a faulty election process that should be changed.

if she stood by and was demure and lost the election because of that, when she DOES have more experience and IS better qualified, that would suck too. so if she has to play hard to get an opportunity, so be it. i'll bet most of these delegates votes are handed out and the choice of men. who will hand them to men. it is an uphill battle for a woman no matter what her accomplishments are. i think she will do a great job, but she has to get there first..

i think Obama, after 8 years as VP, will be good too. His ego at wanting the top position too soon will ruin the party. Had he backed her, we would have had 16 great years, with no bickering.

god forbid a man will be willing to support a woman
rather than the other way around. if he refuses to be her VP, it is pure ego. And if that is the case, i hope she finds a VP that will be supportive and not back stab her based on his own impatient ambitiousness.

Eve at 8:50PM on Mar 11th 2008

41. OPENYOURBLINDEYE

There a secret guarded till now, 10/15/2001, that President signed the first directive for secret aid to the opponents of the pro-Soviet regime in Kabul. This secret directive directing the CIA to give aid to the Mujahadeen was signed by Carter on 7/3/79, six months before the Soviets invaded Afgan on 12/24/79. They signing of the secret aid for the Muhajahadeen was done in hope to sucker the Soviets into Afgan.

It worked, Soviets invaded and the war lasted 10 years causing 1 million civilian deaths.

Google Jimmy Carter and secret aid to afgan 7/3/79 resolution.

The secret resolution by Pres Carter was illegal, it did not have Congressional approval, it was a covert CIA Action in which arms had to be bought from Egypt and sent to Afgan by Pakastan, so USA Involvement was kept a secret. Carter illegal action cost 1 million deaths in Afgan.

President Carter did not bring down the evil empire, that happened many years later. Captain defends this illegal war and the 1 million deaths is made ok since the Soviets lost that war.
Source-Interview with Zbigniew Brzinski, President Carters National Security Adviser-Global Research and the Third World Traveler.

robert okane at 3:45PM on Mar 11th 2008

42. #36

"if she stood by and was demure and lost the election because of that, when she does have more experience and is better qualified, "

Eve, what you have posted makes everything totally clear to me now. So using your train of reasoning it is all right for me to declare:
"YOKO ONO WAS A BEATLE TOO!"

M2D5 at 3:56PM on Mar 11th 2008

43. What none of you fail to realize is that, after the initial vote at the convention, if no candidate has enough votes for the nomination, then as of the 2nd round of voting, pledged delegates are no longer pledged and they can vote for whomever they wish.
That is DNC Convention rules. Look them up.
If Hillary wins because pledged delegates vote for her in the 2nd round, she wins it fair and square.
Same for the vice-versa with Obama winning.

Take care

Stavros at 4:03PM on Mar 11th 2008

44. WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT, YOU PATHETIC LOOSER.

FOXYLYNX at 5:15PM on Mar 11th 2008

45. Hillary Clinton will do or say anything to get power. If she is elected President she would not hesitate to use the expanded powers of the office of the President (that President Bush put in place.) Its fun to hear liberals saying what us right-wing extremists have been saying for years.

In cotrast both Senators McCain and Obama seem quite honorable in trying to run a clean and civil campaign.

Though either Democrat would (if able) enact economic 'reforms' that could prove ruinous to our economic system or at least hugely expensive, I think Obama sincerely wants to make life better for people. Hillary has made calculated decisions and married her way to where she is now by managing the 'bimbo eruption' squad for her husband and making a career of attacking or impugning or discrediting women who have had involvements with her husband.

That said at least she won't INVADE Pakistan. (A country which is officially our ally.) And yes Obama really did say that. On foreign policy Hillary sounds somewhat more rational. It's entirely more consistant to surrender while not starting more wars than to give up wars that we've won to start more wars. An Obama led invasion of Pakistan would be a blood-bath. Pakistan has nukes by the way. At least before Obama invades I hope that he would ask Iran for permission since we'll be having meetings with their brilliant leader.


The "War in Iraq" is OVER. At this point it is an occupation or reconstruction. Wars have battles, but Iraq has isolated shootings and bombings. The country is almost under control. Whether you think that this was a vast conspiracy to seize oil and lower oil prices (didn't seem to work) or just a well-intentioned mistake that unseated Saddam Hussein (who many libs see as less villainous than our LEGALLY ELECTED PRESIDENT GEROEGE W. BUSH, despite the fact that he would feed political prisoners to tigers for entertainment.)

Withdrawing without facing serious and organized opposition and seizing defeat where it has not happened will embolden the enemies of freedom everywhere. Even Angelina Jolie thinks we should remain

Why was John McCain praised as a 'maverick' when he opposes his party, but Joe Liberman is ostracized for refusing to declare defeat without enough of an enemy left to defeat us?

Bipartisan is only bipartisan when its the GOP going over to the Democratic Party's side of an issue.

Of course since Sen. McCain has the nomination of the evil Republicans he will now be characterized as the second coming of George W. Bush.

And gas prices??? The Dem nominee will propose more taxes on evil oil companies (making them go up) while at the same time proposing price controls (making huge shortages.) Its easy to hate oil companies until we actually can't get enough gas or we're forced to wait for hours to get it. Gas is cheaper per gallon than that bottle of Dasani you're drinking but nobody gripes about Big Water. Why don't we drill for oil in the pristine national parks where NOTHING lives and we won't ever visit anyway but try to do it in a way that doesn't cause problems. But don't worry you tree-huggers. Even John McCain is against harnessing natural resources to increase supply amd lower America's dependance on foreign oil.

dmusicmon24 at 6:10PM on Mar 11th 2008