While on the debating circuit pounding atheists--a pastime I am really getting to enjoy--I have just started reading Dalia Mogahed and Esposito's Who Speaks for Islam: What a Billion Muslims Really Think. It's one of the first books to put some real data behind a much-disputed question. Go ahead and order the book here.
For several years now liberal and conservative pundits have been pontificating about the Muslim world, usually without a shred of data. I was amused last year to cross swords with some of my fellow conservatives like Scott Johnson and Victor Davis Hanson. These ideologues seem of the opinion that the average Muslim is a crazed polygamist who is ready to blow himself up. No surprise: this is supposedly what Muslims all learn in the school where they read nothing but the Koran! Only pundits who have no exposure to Muslim countries, Muslim history and Muslim people can go on like this.
For such gurus, Islam itself is the problem and nothing short of an Islamic Reformation headed by ex-Muslims like Hirsi Ali will show the Muslim world where it has gone wrong over the past five centuries. Forgotten in all this theorizing is the simple fact that Islam has been around for 1300 years and Islamic terrorism has been around for a few decades. The intelligent questions to ask are, what is it about Islam today that has made it an incubator of radicalism and terrorism? And second, what do most Muslims really think about the West?
Fortunately there is an increasing body of reliable data on Muslim beliefs. One source is the World Values Survey, which has the benefit of tracking opinions over a period of decades. Another is the Gallup surveys which are now under the aegis of the Gallup Center for Muslim Studies, a group headed by Mogahed. Esposito is one of the most respected American authorities on Islam. I am only getting into their book, but here I offer my own hypothesis, and then I'm going to find out if their data vindicate it.
The problem for Muslims is not Christianity or Judaism. In fact, Islam sees itself as incorporating both in much the same way that Christianity sees itself as incorporating Judaism. The problem for most Muslims is liberalism. But here we must distinguish betwen two kinds of liberalism. There is the classical liberalism of the American founding. Call this Liberalism 1. This liberalism is reflected in such principles as the right to vote, to assemble freely, to debate issues, to trade with others, religious toleration, and so on.
Then there is the modern liberalism of the 1960s. Call this Liberalism 2. This liberalism is defined by such tenets as the right to blaspheme, the right of teenage boys and girls to receive sex education and contraceptives, the right to abortion, prostitution as a worker's right, pornography as a protected form of expression, gay rights and gay marriage, and so on. It is this second type of liberalism that seems to drive the social agenda of today's Democratic Party. For example, Hillary Clinton chaired a presidential task force during the 1990s that promoted prostitution as an international right for workers.
Now we are in a better position to understand Islamic attitudes regarding the West. The vast majority of Muslims worldwide embrace Liberalism 1 while rejecting Liberalism 2. They are generally comfortable with classical liberalism while abhorring the tenets of modern liberalism. And by equating America with such things as blasphemy, pornography, prostitution and homosexualty, the radical Muslims appeal to ordinary Muslims to join their cause in a battle against the Great Satan. This is what I have argued in my recent work and I'm interested to see how my thesis stands up in light of Mogahed and Esposito's data.
Of course today's liberals will chafe at the idea that their values are producing a powerful "blowback" from the House of Islam. That's why we need good empirical work like this book. Let us find out what Muslims really think, and then let us look at the propaganda of the radical Muslims to see how they rally traditional Muslims to their side. Who cares if liberals don't like to admit what is going on? People are entitled to their own opinions but they are not entitled to their own facts.



Reader Comments ( Page 4 of 60)
46. DD:
What version of Islam do you feel we will need to imulate before we will not deserve to die? Do I just need to wear a scarf all day, or do I have to be in full cover? Can I have a job? Can I talk to a male who is not my family? Can I wear pants? Can I chose my own husband? Can I vote? Can I drive my car? Can I have my own bank account? As a male, I am sure it is easy for you to see any version of Islam as acceptabe, but for me, none is.
Teri Martinez at 9:26AM on Apr 23rd 2008
47. "42. brandon,
No thank you for that imagery."
You're welcome!
My mother used to use the phrase "shit eating grin" - - appropo?
brandon at 9:25AM on Apr 23rd 2008
48. Jacob 43,
The list mentioned in liberalism 2 is considered regress and not progress by conservative christians. We dont think its free thought we consider it backward and embarrassing behaviour.
kumar at 9:28AM on Apr 23rd 2008
49. DD:
What version of Islam do you feel we will need to imulate before we
will not deserve to die? Do I just need to wear a scarf all day, or
do I have to be in full cover? Can I have a job? Can I talk to a
male who is not my family? Can I wear pants? Can I chose my own
husband? Can I vote? Can I drive my car? Can I have my own bank
account? As a male, I am sure it is easy for you to see any version
of Islam as acceptabe, but for me, none is.
Teri M at 9:28AM on Apr 23rd 2008
50. kumar; "The list mentioned in liberalism 2 is considered regress and not progress"
how can you have the right to free speech without the right to blaspheme?
Would you support a ban on blasphemy?
Ryan Anderson at 9:33AM on Apr 23rd 2008
51. brian,
All I had to do was read one sentence from you.
Debating someone has nothing to do with Mercy.
Go back to Dinesh's last Blog and look at post #681. It's obvious, that you didn't read it.
Since I do know plenty of Muslims, and you don't know a single one, I have facts and you have opinions.
I can't be any more clear than that.
Botts at 9:37AM on Apr 23rd 2008
52. Sorry........#680
Botts at 9:38AM on Apr 23rd 2008
53. I can agree that not all Muslims are terrorists, it's just that all terrorists are Muslims.
fanman
fanmanaf1 at 9:42AM on Apr 23rd 2008
54. Botts,
Actually, it was #680. Here's my favorite part:
"What's the point in living, if don't make every attempt to be better at what we do, and what we are.
And I can tell you right now, no progress can ever be made if we fight and not listen to one another. Only through Love and Understanding can we accomplish true things that are meaningful in our lives.
Live with no regrets, and find the clarity that we're all suppose to receive at least once.
Botts at 5:46PM on Apr 22nd 2008"
Well said, sir. Great words of wisdom.
brandon at 9:42AM on Apr 23rd 2008
55. I think this article might be a bit more insightful regarding the problems in the middle east:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Utilities/printer_preview.asp?idArticle=14947&R=13A16D2F3
Ray Ingles at 9:42AM on Apr 23rd 2008
56. "terrorists are Muslims.
fanman
fanmanaf1 at 9:42AM"
Jesus f'in Christ...are you joking here? OK city federal building...Waco...abortion clinic bombings...the MOVE bombings in PA (oh, whoops, that was our own feds...come to think of it, so was Waco...hmmm...pattern?)
brandon at 9:44AM on Apr 23rd 2008
57. 'Muslims think' is another oxymoron. Muslims cannot think because, just like the other cult, catholocism, they are brain washed from birth
Geoff Barker at 9:49AM on Apr 23rd 2008
58. fanmanaf1,
"all terrorists are Muslims."
That's far from truth, although they do corner the market as of current.
Mokele Mbembe at 9:46AM on Apr 23rd 2008
59. The 72 virgins thing, how are they able to supply 72 virgin ghosts for each terrorist. Does he have to kill them himself? Do aborted fetuses count as virgins? Questions too silly? Religion too silly?
Mokele Mbembe at 9:51AM on Apr 23rd 2008
60. That's a great question Moke; I always wondered if any of them "did the math" on the virgins.
fanmanaf1 at 9:54AM on Apr 23rd 2008