1. Even Atheists such as Richard Dawkins is forced to unite with the superstitious regarding visiting aliens in order to avoid the scientific evidence of intelligent design inherent within this physical world. You can hear his comment on the movie "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed." These Atheists merely demonstrate that they have used Darwinism to advance science-FICTION novels because the very complex proteins they have imagined which had to form by chance DO NOT formulate naturally nor is there any evidence for such processes within any topographical level of the earth’s crust. Let’s let the facts speak for themselves and let’s not speak for the lack of facts.

http://evolutionfacts.blogspot.com

FORMER ATHEIST at 11:09AM on Apr 24th 2008

2. FORMER ATHEIST,
Dawkins' ET DNA design scenario was a thought experiment, not a belief. The film is sleazy flippant misrepresentation propaganda crafted to preach to the ID choir, when it should have made itself productive by fighting to ligitimize its own position. It's a cranky rant that would impress even Michael Moore.

Mokele Mbembe at 12:58PM on Apr 24th 2008

3. I live in Colorado, to the East of the Continental Divide. I have actually seen two things that I cannot possibly explain as being "normal" aircraft. One was one of the well-known "black triangle" UFOs, which has a white light on each corner and a red light in the center. I saw this very clearly, flying very low, over the outskirts of the city, which is where I live. I even had my Nikon D40 in the car with me, but as I did not have a tripod and this was nighttime, I couldn't get even a half-decent photo of the thing.

The other was during the day, in the middle of August about three years ago, flying over Pikes Peak. The thing was directly over the mountain, which is a place where no aircraft EVER flies, due to the winds around the peak. It would hover in place, then fly straight up or straight down at near perfect right angles, or fly from side to side. It then disappeared behind the mountain, and I didn't see it again.

I'm not a kook or a crazy person, and I've not been "abducted." I do live near three military bases, the Air Force Academy, and NORAD, so I wouldn't be at all surprised if these were both experimental aircraft or something like that. I keep an open mind about these things.

Emmy at 6:38PM on Apr 24th 2008

4. The world can now see that "Former Atheist" - in posting #1 is shamelessly spreading his distortions and lies about Richard Dawkins even in this blog. Former Atheist also tries to fool the world with his proxy / sock puppet - "An Atheist no more" - in order to convert others to your baseless beliefs.

Of hundreds of Atheists I've met, including Dawkins, I know of not one who believe that aliens created life. By definition, someone who would hold such a "belief" would NOT be an atheist in any sense of the word. To conclude anything created us (which even Darwin never did) would be Religious - because it would be a conclusion based on "belief" not facts, akin to Scientology and hundreds of other religious sects and cults.

An atheist, including Dawkins would ask: If you think an Alien (or god, or a fairy, etc.) created life - what created the creator ? Religionists don't ask this - they just assert that there is a creator and that their assertion is properly asserted and that's all there is to assert. Of course, an assertion never makes anything true in and of itself. Reasonable people require evidence, peer review and critical feedback.

Instead, you continue to deliberately distort Dawkins' example - he was clearly stating that if we're going to postulate out of thin air that there is an "Intelligent Designer" we may as well claim anything out of thin air - Aliens, Raccoons from Mars, A lonely old wizard who got tired of floating in the universe for zillions of years by himself, and all such other nonsensical fairy tales.

LindaL at 12:14AM on Apr 25th 2008

5. It is probably should not be surprising that a post regarding possible UFO sightings has immediately led to repeated arguments about belief in a Deity VS non-belief. People who choose to believe that there are aliens of superior scientific capabilities and intelligence to us poor Earthlings who spend their time visiting us without making any kind of actual contact are exhibiting a "leap of faith" not unlike that of Deists in general. One might suggest that there are great similarities in both of these "belief" systems; observed but poorly understood phenomena that are "explained" by totally unsupported theories of something greater than ourselves. The only real difference is that UFOniks don't seem to feel that everyone needs to worship the otherworldly being(s) created to explain these phenomena.

Harvey at 10:00AM on Apr 25th 2008

6. Why do UFO 'eyewitnesses' almost always say that the 'craft' they were observing made high-speed right-angle turns?

Even if this were possible, why in the world would the pilots choose to do it?

And while we're on the subject....didn't photographed UFOs used to look like decorated pie tins and hubcaps?

Why do they now look like something out of Star Wars?

Alien technology sure has advanced in the past sixty years!

Ken C. at 7:56PM on Apr 25th 2008

7. Emmy-
I live on the East slope in Colorado as well and I too have seen things that cannot be called normal craft. I'm betting it's government testing just because of AFA and NORAD.

Mel at 9:22PM on Apr 25th 2008

8. Alien technology sure has advanced in the past 60 years. You are right about that, Ken C. Take a look at our own advance in technology in the past 60 years. Am I the only person alive that finds it strange that humans have been here for hundreds of thousands of years, and only within the last 100 years, technology has sky rocketed? Hmm, reverse engineering, anyone??????

Chris at 8:22PM on Apr 26th 2008

9. Dawkin said that if there were life on any other planets they would not be at the state of space travel as believed by the cooky nuts that claim alien abductions and sightings. i mean the b-2 bomber looks pretty alien, if i lived in a 3rd world country that would be a alien space craft to me.

Freddy at 1:11AM on Apr 27th 2008

10. Did this guy have a plan, in case one of those flares fell down (baloons have been known to pop, strings break or burn through, etc.) and set somebody's house on fire?

Bruce Peterson at 1:18PM on Apr 27th 2008

11. >

Well, Ken. C, I cannot speak for other witnesses of such events, but the fact that the object I saw did make those highly unusual maneuvers really stuck in my mind. Conventional aircraft can't do things like that, and living in an Air Force city and living just a couple miles from an airport means that I see many, many airplanes, and I have a pretty good idea of what they can and cannot do.

As for the shape of the object, I am not sure. From my position it looked like a black spherical object, but I could be mistaken. It was a very bright and sunny summer day, so visibility was good, but I wasn't close enough to the object to see any detail.

As for the "black triangle" UFO, it looked like this:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/timages/page/BelgiumTriangularUFO030305b.jpg

Many, many people have seen them all across the world. I honestly didn't believe it when I saw it, simply because so many people do see them. This thing was flying low, very low, perhaps only several hundred feet up. I thought it was a plane at first, but I noticed that it had that perfectly triangular shape and light configuration, and it was flying extremely slowly. It also made no noise, and I know this because my window was open (I was driving home when I saw it). It was headed Southeast, and I watched it until I lost sight of it. I did report it to MUFON as soon as I got home, and you can read the report on the MUFON site.

I'm no lunatic, and I am not a gullible person. I'm an "I'll believe it when I see it" type of person, with most things, and I saw it, so I believe it.

Emmy at 9:04PM on Apr 27th 2008

12.
Emmy, just a couple of comments about your UFO:

1. Aircraft flying away from you (perpendicularly) look like they are standing still.

2. What you describe sounds a lot like the stealth bomber

3. There is frequently turbulent air when you go up high, i.e. about a mile. Most aircraft can deal with turbulence.

Not trying to rain on your parade, but as has been posted, it is not difficult to find reasonable explanations for phenomena.

Linda at 9:48AM on Apr 28th 2008

13. Linda, I do appreciate what you have said there. However,

1.) The "black triangle" was indeed flying away from my position, and I noted that fact, but the other craft was hovering over a certain area for several minutes. I had both craft in plain sight for enough time to judge where they were and how they were moving. The daytime sighting was much longer than the nighttime sighting, lasting around 3-5 minutes.

2.) I'm familiar with stealth bombers, as they fly over the area occasionally, and the stealth's light pattern isn't even close to the black triangle's light pattern. The stealth is also not a perfect triangle when seen from below.

3.) Aircraft do not fly low over Pikes Peak, period. The turbulence created by the mountain and its close neighbors has crashed many small planes, and several helicopters. They'll fly over the mountains at a safe altitude, of course, but never as low as the craft I witnessed.

The only reason I did post about these is because I checked out all the reasonable phenomena, to try and explain what I had seen. For the Pikes Peak object, there was no reasonable explanation. As for the nighttime craft, I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was simply an experimental military craft.

Emmy at 8:21PM on Apr 28th 2008

14. I remember going for a walk one evening with a friend and for fun I flashed my flashlight into the sky as mock morse code. We then saw what looked like a star slowly flashing back. As we walked around, the star always stayed directly overhead. Not saying it's aliens, but definitely yet to be identified.

I've always been curious why nobody can get a clear picture or video, ever. Especially now in the digital age.

Strados at 11:39AM on Apr 30th 2008