Let me ask a controversial question here about Rev. Wright: So what?
He is angry about how black people have been treated in this country. So what? That's mainly true that they have gotten the short end of the stick here. It doesn't mean America is a bad country over all (I happen to think it's the greatest country ever formed), but it did do these heinous things. Why is it so terrible to admit that and talk about that -- and get this, maybe even take pride in how we have evolved beyond that?
Why is the "average American" so touchy about the things he said? What he said about America doesn't diminish my view of America one bit. I hope your faith in this country is not so fragile. The fact that he holds these controversial opinions doesn't bother me in the slightest. Overall, I don't agree with him and I move on with my life.
If he was in a position of power it might be different. If he was an elected official or a major media figure that influenced other people, then it might be very relevant. But he is a private citizen, so I don't see the relevance.
Finally, people say it is relevant becuase he was Barack Obama's pastor. Really? Why? Does that mean he influenced Obama into secretly hating America and that once Obama becomes president he is going to hand the country over to France or Iran or Congo? Of course that's absurd, so if we agree that Obama does not share Rev. Wright's views (as he has made abundantly clear), what is the point of bringing this guy up over and over again? What is the relevance?
Look, don't get me wrong, I get why the media is doing it. It's highly entertaining. This Rev. Wright guy is a character. But in the end they should put things in context and explain that this is not a real issue in anyone's real life in America. You will not get better health care or cheaper gas based on what Rev. Wright said or did not say.
As the country is in a frenzy over this complete non-issue, my reaction is -- so what?
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61. Bob - GW Bush has attempted to change the course of history in Iraq. We really don't know yet if it's going to work. We do know that Saddam murdered at least 600,000 Iraqis and possibly as many as two million. (The UN says about 85,000 Iraqi civilians have died in the last 5 years.)
Then there's the tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of Iraqis that were horribly raped, tortured and maimed, sometimes in front of family members, all by Saddam, Uday and Cusay. But what do you care? You get to sit at your computer in the safety and security of your house and pound out anti-Bush rhetoric.
Dave at 11:32PM on Apr 30th 2008
62. Captain Negative
Yes, you answered my question, you are that stupid.
Police and civic groups, including families who have lost a child to a gang killing, are demonstrating and asking for STRICTER PENALTIES for those gang members who commit crimes of violence against school children. Got that now, stupid. Not new laws, but stricter punishment for existing laws.
Obama and Captain Negative say, so what if young kids are murdered, there are enough laws now. Obama could have answered the plea in 2001 to do something to curb the then rising rate of gang violence, but Obuma said NO to the law making for stricter punishment for gang related crimes of violence. Got that stupid, punishment, not a new law.
Captain Negative you pride yourself at being a dip shit self employed Private (Eye) Investigator, but the best you can do is try to catch someone cheating on their mate. Why don't you try a more demanding job in law enforcement, like security guard at WalMart
robert okane at 5:50AM on May 1st 2008
63. There are alot of stupid people, and you sir our one of them. Wake up. obama was listing to this moron for years he must have liked what he heard. I was a morman and I did not believe what I was being told so I quite, aparantly obama does.
baker at 9:46AM on May 1st 2008
64. Okane, you used to be an interesting read. It's a shame.
Captain Negative at 12:18PM on May 1st 2008
65. Hey Neg: Oreo-Bama did such a fine job for his constiuency when he was in office that the poor people are now reaping the havoc that Machine Politician Obama and his cohorts have sewn.
At least Obama was able to swing a land deal with Rezko's wife and get his kids out of the line of fire!!!!!!!
Paul Sparcello at 8:24PM on May 1st 2008
66. Obama Campaign Linked
To Chechen Terrorism
http://www.rense.com/general80/obb.htm
Feel free to read all about it..It's interesting..
jim at 11:09AM on May 4th 2008
67. Obama caused this to happen..
All across the country, anti-American activists have taken up the call. They have already attacked military recruiting centers in cities including Washington, D.C., Berkeley, Calif.; Minneapolis, Minn.; Milwaukee, Wis.; Santa Monica, Calif.; Toledo, Ohio; Murfreesboro, Tenn.; Pittsburgh, Penn.; and Haverhill, Mass. This is just a partial list.
What is so galling is these people have the nerve to tell us that while they don't support the missions of our troops, they nonetheless really do support the individuals.
In Toledo, Ohio the anti-war activists threw buckets of human feces at a military recruiting office. A year later vandals threw bricks at yet another recruiting office used by our troops in Toledo.
The anti-war group Funk the War recently bragged about their storming and occupation of a military recruiting office in Washington, D.C. Supporters of the effort called our troops "child predator(s)." Here's their after-action report where they bragged shamelessly:
One recruiter tried to grab an activist but found himself overpowered by SDS's superior strength and numbers and had no choice but to give up!
By harassing them? By vandalizing their offices? By calling them "murderers" and "rapists"? By bombing their offices?
jim at 11:12AM on May 4th 2008
68. Obama Campaign Linked
To Chechen Terrorism
http://www.rense.com/general80/obb.htm
If the American public were generally aware that the "foreign minister" of one of the most murderous terrorist organizations in the world, a man whose extradition on terrorism charges is sought by at least one UN Security Council permanent member, is living openly in Washington DC, they might be indignant. If Americans knew that this is the "foreign minister" of a terrorist group specializing in killing women and children first in a hospital, then in a school, and later defenseless civilians in a theater, their indignation might grow into rage. If they knew that this envoy for terrorists is living in the comfortable Woodley Park neighborhood of Washington DC with a lifestyle most Americans could not afford, with an office, a secretary, a travel budget, and a public relations budget all paid for at the expense of the US taxpayers, with State Department checks signed by Condoleeza Rice, they might be furious. If they knew that this ambassador for terrorists had been set up in his current all expenses paid, taxpayer-funded lifestyle by a man who is the main image adviser and the main foreign policy adviser to Barack Obama, their view of the Illinois senator and his qualifications for the presidency might well undergo a radical change.
And yet, all this is reality. The terrorist organization in question is the Chechen rebel group associated with the names of two of the greatest butchers of our time, Aslan Maskhadov and Shamil Basayev, both deceased even though the organization they built fights on. The foreign minister and ambassador for this terrorist group is Ilyas Khamzatovich Akhmadov (born December 19, 1960, who was granted political asylum in the United States in 2003. Akhmadov's patron is none other than Zbigniew Brzezinski, the former head of the National Security Council during the Jimmy Carter administration and, before that the co-founder with David Rockefeller of the Trilateral Commission in 1973. Zbigniew Brezezinski in turn is not only the main foreign policy adviser to the Barack Obama presidential campaign; Zbigniew is in many ways the creator of the public relations image profile now being used by Obama in his quest for the White House, an image that is developed in Zbig's latest book, Second Chance. Zbigniew's son Mark Brzezinski, a veteran of the NSC under Clinton, is another key foreign policy adviser for Obama. Mika Brzezinski, daughter to Zbigniew and sister to Mark, churns out a propaganda line slanted in favor of Obama every morning on the MSNBC Morning Joe program. Ian Brzezinski, another son of Zbigniew, is busy poisoning US relations with Russia from his post as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Europe and Russia in the Bush Pentagon. Yet another member of the clan, Zbigniew's nephew Matthew Brzezinski serves as a de facto public relations representative for Akhmadov, whitewashing this envoy for Chechen terrorists in the pages of the Washington Post. The entire crew is made of of petty Polish aristocrats notable mainly for their fanatical, consuming hatred of Russia and Russians. The family project is to hitch the remaining military power of the United States to their monomania of hatred. If they are allowed to succeed, the bloody excesses of the neocons in the Middle East will seem like schoolyard games by comparison, since the Brzezinski gang wants to court all-out confrontation with a first-class thermonuclear power that is moving well ahead of the US in certain crucial types of strategic weaponry. The now-infamous neocons have been careful to pick on powers with little or no strategic retaliatory potential. Brzezinski lacks this faculty of discrimination. This is the reality behind the messianic edification and utopian platitudes dished up by Obama. Under an Obama administration, Americans will risk getting a reminder of what real war looks like, and they may discover that it is a two-way street.
Voters who may be wondering what the foreign policy of a future Obama administration might look like need to learn from recent painful experience with George W. Bush and look closely at the foreign policy advisers around the candidate, since it is these figures who will prepare the policy options and, by so doing, will determine the course of a new administration. For Bush, these advisers were the self-styled "Vulcans," figures like Wolfowitz, Condi Rice, Rumsfeld, Colin Powell, and Cheney, most of them neocons and most of them chosen by George Shultz, who created the disaster of the Afghan and Iraq wars. Even though Bush might have been a blank slate in foreign policy, it was evident from the presence of these neocon warmongers which direction the new regime would choose. Who then are the corresponding figures around Obama? A cursory look reveals that in foreign affairs and not just foreign affairs, Obama is the creature of the Brzezinski machine.
"HE'S A TERRORIST, THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT."
jim at 11:32AM on May 4th 2008
69. I dont know the big deal either..Mostly what Wright says is true..but I know that a lot of whites love to be lied to...they dont wanna hear the bad things that go on in this country...they act so uptight...like, why is the news reporting on what Brittney Spears is wearing (or not wearing) I mean if shes not givin me the ass why tell me about it?? And reading these other comments I can see that people against rev. Wright are racist...
Red October at 9:24PM on May 6th 2008
70. How come Oprah Winfrey had enough good judgment to have left that church 10 years ago but Barack Obama, a Presidential Candidate does not have enough common sense to leave that America hating church after sitting in the Pews for 20 years listening to that garbage?? Also, the Rev. traveled to Libya with Louis Farrakhan a known Anti-semite to meet with Kaddafy, America's enemy. Obama never heard anything about that in 20 years?? Also, if he does not have the judment to leave that church after the sermon given a few days after 9/11 by Rev. Wright how can America expect him to have sound judgment in running the United States of America???? I am sorry, I have too many unanswered questions about Obama's character (or rather, lack of character) to vote for Obama. Game over.
SC at 12:03AM on May 6th 2008
71. People look Jesus Christ, or whoever you believe in is not going to be running for President, right now you have a choice of three human beings who have made mistakes like all humans and they have their imperfections like all humans , I think its about who can best serve this country. Obama too inexperienced, McCain supports the Irag War which is unwinnable, so Hillary is the best choice, I know she panders, sometimes tell lies, has a suspect past, but I happen to think she is best qualified to run this country
Ronald Chapman at 4:38AM on May 6th 2008