It's widely believed that Charles Darwin lost his faith when he discovered evolution. And many contemporary atheists proclaim themselves followers of Darwin in this sense. Michael Shermer, for instance, writes that he abandoned Christianity when he learned about evolution; finally he could see how there could be design--or the appearance of design--without a designer. Richard Dawkins writes that it was Darwin who finally made it possible to be an "intellectually fulfilled atheist."
In reality Darwin's atheism had little to do with his discovery of evolution. First of all Darwin was never a very devout Christian. He was raised as a nominal Anglican. It says something about Anglicanism in Britain that a lukewarm Christian like Darwin actually considered becoming a clergyman. What turned Darwin against Christianity, however, was two things.
First, several of his children either died or has chronic illnesses. This was probably heriditary, as Darwin himself suffered for most of his life from one ailment or the other. When Darwin's daughter Annie died at a young age, however, Darwin was inconsolable. Usually a man of the stiff upper lip, Darwin could not stop himself from weeping even in public. Darwin blamed God for Annie's untimely death. This was several years before Darwin published his Origin of Species.
After Annie's death, Darwin began to reflect morbidly on mortality, and during his process he recalled that his own famous grandfather Erasmus Darwin, as well as several other family members and friends, were unbelievers. Since Darwin saw them as good and respectable people, he angrily fulminated against the doctrine of eternal damnation, asking what kind of a God would consign good people to hell just because they refused to accept Christianity? The thought of all these people in hell filled Darwin with such revulsion that he completely jettisoned Christianity.
At the same time Darwin recognized that his theory of evolution was quite compatible with Christianity. When the American biologist Asa Gray wrote Darwin to say that his theory of evolution demonstrated how God created species, Darwin congratulated Gray for being the first one to see the point. In England, the preacher-poet Charles Kingsley argued for the compatibility with evolution and Christianity, and Darwin encouraged his efforts.
True, evolution is inconsistent with the six-day account of creation, but since the earliest days of Christianity, Christian writers like Augustine have had no problem with interpreting the first book of Genesis allegorically. After all the Hebrew word can mean "day" but it can also mean "period" or "epoch." Only a small segment of Christians--mostly fundamentalists--are uncompromisingly wedded to the six-day account.
Evolution, however, says nothing about who or what created the universe. Evolution doesn't even say anything about how life got started. Evolution merely describes how one life form gave rise to another. Somewhat comically writers like Dawkins and Daniel Dennett argue that evolution is a kind of master key that unlocks the universe. It isn't hard to see that atheism is getting in the way of clear reasoning here. If you doubt this, go to Youtube and watch again my debate with Daniel Dennett. Unfortunately I cannot also direct you to my debate with Dawkins, since Timorous Richard doesn't want to get into the arena with me.
Darwin lost his faith over the "problem of evil," an issue that has been coming up in my recent debates, and one that I intend to address in future blog postings. It's time to set at rest, however, the old myth that evolution is a scientific refutation of theism in general or Christianity in particular. Darwin himself knew it was not so, even if his dimmer acolytes haven't figured that out yet.



Reader Comments ( Page 6 of 86)
76. Hmmm. Very intellectual indeed. So what word would you like for me to use instead Brian or Mokele? Please let me know so I can use the exact word you like, ok. As to being a policeman, that I'm not. It seems it didn't take very long before judgement came about. It seems you didn't take the time to analyze what I said on my previous comment, or you wouldn't be on the defensive. What I meant was that it would wise to leave the swearing to lesser educated individuals that need that type of language in order to expand their lexicon. Someone who is a true itellectual needs not to engage in such language, after all even a child could swear quite well. The other reason is that swearing is a very bad way to accomplish good relationships. If you are on this blog with the idea of convincing others of your "well thought ideas" then you will accomplish nothing by using disrespectful language toward others. If your mission on the blog is just to vent off steam then remember that it is under pressure that the best or the worst of us comes out.
shiningstarxport at 12:24PM on May 5th 2008
77. Thank you Botts
GOD states in his book....
don't fall for false profets...
so I grow up Catholic...
I go to SUNDAY SCHOOL...funded by...no one other than...hmmm you tell me...
exactly on Botts...
The man came from ROME recently...
WHY DID THEY POPE REALLY COME TO YOU MY PEOPLE!!!!!
BELIEVE in ME...GOD your father in HEAVEN not ROME!!!
Besides...
STOP...
THINK...
THE Pope and the Rothchilds...
biggest thing they have in common?
Rooms filled with gold and riches and PAINTINGS !!!
If they really love my children...
feed the world
cloth my children all my children
cure the illnesses with which I gave you the KNOWLEDGE to do...
If there is a house of the Lord...where do you think it is???
Where do you think the Roth kids will go from here ...once they inslave my people of earth...
Pati at 12:26PM on May 5th 2008
78. "Hell, maybe they're in league, for all I know."
Trust me Godless, their all in bed with one another.
I've been at the table where big business is going down and the Clients were Muslim leaders, Jewish leaders and Catholic leaders. All loving each other while trading currency, diamonds and oil.
If only the citizens knew.....
I guess that's why I'm here. To expose these bastards.
And if I were to leave this earth on short notice, I have everything I've ever been a part of documented. It will be released immediately once my Family is in a safe place. And their aren't many safe places.
Botts at 12:25PM on May 5th 2008
79. How does a supposed intellectual, and supposed writer of non-fiction, state facts about Darwion's life and feelings, and beliefs without footnoting or citing any sources whatsoever?
Why should I believe one word of the story you have spun about Darwin's life? Were you there to witness him? Dope!
(At least dd didn't cite his own work as proof of his theories....that one always reminds me of pulling some shit out of a trash can, and crediting the trash can).
America's Most Gangsta at 12:38PM on May 5th 2008
80. I am right...I have no reasons to steer you wrong...
If you would hear my complete life story...
You might think I must have been sent from above...
I am only a messengar...
I will give you information and ok at times sometime humor...
that's one quaility that humans have that is adored...and we get to take that part in the end...
I have heard or was it written(?)
God does have a sence of humor...
I know that I don't have much time to warn you...and give you all you need...
Humans ...
Stop...look around you...really look around you...
Help to save your familys by finding out what they know about how the earth is going to blow...
COME ON...
THE RICH OWN OIL...
EQUIPMENT THAT CAN SEE THEE HEAT of the chambers below!!!
If you want proof...use GOOGLE...
see yellowstone...from underground...
lets learn again in just a few minutes....
Pati at 12:43PM on May 5th 2008
81. shiningstarxport,
I paid enough attention to identify you as a self-important elitist who imagines himself as the key to order on the blog, while you think you've summarized everyone else into your little blanket terms. It's a bit pompous. Every sentence is drenched with an "Why yes, I am as they say in the vernacular an 'intellectual', indubitably". Maybe that's your style, but I say chill out.
Mokele Mbembe at 12:43PM on May 5th 2008
82. Now lets be truthful...
in the end...
imagine in your mind for just a minute...
do you really think the Roth kids will take the pope along the OLD guy!!!...First they will laugh and then they will leave him to his vat of gold...they will not need gold any more...they have enough...
If Bush thinks he's going on vacation with the Roths or what ever they will rename there selfs before departure so we get tricked.....
We will be left...ashes to ashes volcano to earth water...will come... PREPARE YOUR PEOPLE!!!!
If you don't believe me...I have proof...
The Americans and the British did a "Exploration" of the HOLY PLACE...where HUMANS lived...
the lost city of "ATLANTIS"
I changelle you...google for your self.....
They have found out that what happened to "Atlantis" is going to happen again!!!
They are trying to get off this planet with resources that we as SLAVES to them built!!!!
Pati at 12:54PM on May 5th 2008
83. Pati,
My motor vehicle broke down on my way to work this mourning, so I took it in to be serviced, and now I am waiting for the shop to call and let me know when it is done.
I want to hear your complete life story, and go on with the subject at hand after you are finished with your life story.
Observant at 12:53PM on May 5th 2008
84. I find people that are offended by mere swear words, small people indeed.
And besides, I do just fine getting my points across. Sometimes my point is "fuck you," that's all. When they go WAY over the line. Like the time brian said what he did about bott's wife.
So, since I'm not a little girl, I shall use whatever language that I deem appropriate at the time.
Thanks again for the advice, though.
Godless Heathen Brian at 12:53PM on May 5th 2008
85. But if I tell you my life story now...Will you still buy my book...lol
really if someone was smart they would really get to know me...
but by the time they figure out who I am...I'll be dead...and only what man interpetes what I am saying is what he/she will believe...
Then...people will blog of these words...wondering , exploring the myths the legion...
Pati at 1:14PM on May 5th 2008
86. Wow! I certainly didn't deserve that Mokele. How did we pass from using the right word for saying "swear" to being a pompous elitist who puts everyone into my own blanket terms? It seems you have drifted quite far from the issue at hand in order to not have to accept that your earlier reaction was defensive. So you decided to go on the defensive once again without provocation. I have not insulted you once in any of my posts but you have dicided to judge me no matter what I post. Maybe if you tried a more subtle approach you would add much more to the debate on hand. What I mean is that your defensiveness is getting in the way of your reasoning. If you would stop seeing me as a threat and more as someone who could add to the usefulness of the debate maybe we could actually add somethiing nice to someones life today.
The only reason I talk in terms of being intellectual is that I have read the comments of many on this blog, and all I have seen is cold reasoning. People who are intellectualy capable of making good arguments need to be emotionaly capable of treating others in such a way that they can actually be of influence in others lives instead of being the pain in each others butt. If you believe that what I'm saying isn't important or a bunch of crap then I would advise you to read Daniel Goleman's book "Emotional Intelligence: Why it can matter more than IQ".
shiningstarxport at 1:17PM on May 5th 2008
87. ...
Is Patti possessed?
...
?
Mokele Mbembe at 1:12PM on May 5th 2008
88. I will tell you more of me later...I have more ergecy in informing you of the truth...
I found out through my research...no little bird told me this....
Last time YellowStone Blew...It Gased everything living far past Nebraska...
(GHB...I'm hoping you could see the strange simularities...Jews being GASED and all!!! Now they now of the Gas and want to get off earth))
Google the heat under yellow stone...
now Open your Peepers...
READ the news
A 10,000 year old Volocano blew....
USE your computer....use GOOGLE see these things...report other things you find out to us!!!!
THE...WE THE PEOPLE!!!!!
Pati at 1:26PM on May 5th 2008
89. Repent! Repent! The end is near! Trust me, I've been doing this for 20 years!
Mokele Mbembe at 1:20PM on May 5th 2008
90. I wonder when I die if then I will be refered to as "Patiisum"
or something...
WOW DUDE!!!
I have been blessed thou..."With GOD given TALENT"
just like you...
mine is painting....
I am a master painter/artist...
my work will be worth millions...but of course that will be after I die...not many artists become famous until they are dead...ever wonder why...
to bad I can't have the money now...it could buy me my meds...although I am planning on putting up my latest collection for people to view...but I can't make any extra money...or I'll lose my Health benefits.....
Buts that's ok....
money for the sick should be spent on advancing our space excursions....
Speaking of ART...do the research on the Roth kids...and art...
Remember the missing paintings from the Murders of the Jews...
many of the paintings are also with the pope...
"and also with you...(?)"
Pati at 1:27PM on May 5th 2008