61. I would love to see a debate between Obama and Ron Paul! Of course Ron Paul would kick ass, but Obama may just learn a thing or two if he jumped off his high horse and listened. He is still wet behind the ears, and definately not ready to lead this nation in a better and stronger direction. Sadly, the republicans will lose to him with McCain as their candidate, and they will deserve it. Too bad there is not a stronger Libertarian candidate.

JENNA at 7:28PM on May 15th 2008

62. Has McCain rejected the Republican Party in an effort to win the General? If he keeps this up, he won't win the nomination.

Cecil Jones at 7:54PM on May 15th 2008

63. I can't wait to see your spin when McCain is elected the next president.If you really think that Obama is going to win then you really are delusional.Pie in the sky liberals will never get it. We will not elect far left socialists to be our leaders. Black ones or white ones or women or whatever.. It ain't gonna happen.you will live to eat your words.

audrey at 8:12PM on May 15th 2008

64. Respectfully...if I were you, I'd say less, forget comedy and spend more time thinking. You are the typical narrow minded, one dimensional, shallow
thought liberal! The DNC cannot manage an
election, much less a country! To present these two misfit candidates, with their associated baggage, and unknown history is disrespectful and an insult to the American voter! Contain your premature ecstacy..Nov. is 5 months away..and more of the B.O.--Hillary history will be forthcoming,
especially their source of money!!!

Vet2 at 9:09PM on May 15th 2008

65. Republicans will get crushed in 2008? Well,thanks for the laugh... and enjoy that delusional world you are living in! I always did enjoy a good fiction story! I, myself, will sit back and have a laugh in November at all the Liberals with their tails tucked between their legs.

linda at 10:18PM on May 15th 2008

66. Nick at 6:45PM on May 15th 2008

Please tell everyone how is it the Hillary
is the "rightful heir" ?
This had better be good.

M2D5 at 8:11AM on May 16th 2008

67. Don't worry cappy, you're hardly the only one blindly lashing out in incoherent, namecalling rants. It's a common response to the painful realization that you'll always lose-regardless of electoral outcomes.

BirdmanJones at 11:01AM on May 16th 2008

68. 36. It's a good sign when cappy's making excuses for losing 6 months before the election...

BirdmanJones at 3:34PM on May 15th 2008

and:
67. Don't worry cappy, you're hardly the only one blindly lashing out in incoherent, namecalling rants. It's a common response to the painful realization that you'll always lose-regardless of electoral outcomes.

BirdmanJones at 11:01AM on May 16th 2008
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That's it. That's the sum total of Birdman Jones' contribution to this thread. Obsession with Captain Negative.

Captain Negative at 2:04PM on May 16th 2008

69. Captain Negative : Could you please give some examples of Republican "October Suprises." I will be seventy years old in August and hve been politically active since 1948. IIRC, most "October Suprises" were sprung by Democrats. Of course, your idea of an "October Suprise" may be different from mine. I use the term to describe a "last minute" attack that smears a candidate without giving the candidate a chance to respond before the election. The one on behalf of J.V.Lindsay, the Liberal candidate for mayor of New York in 1969 was a classic. A full page in a major New York City broadsheet that implied that supporters of the Republican candidate, John Marchi, had committed numerous act of vandalism against Lindsay storefront operations. After the election, the facts came out. Of the twenty-two storefronts vandalized, twenty-one were Marchi storefronts. One was a Lindsay storefront but the police thought it was not vandalism but theft by insiders. Reason? Two brnd new IBM typewriters were tken as well as the contents of the petty cash box and the coins in the coffee jar.

longwalker at 2:36PM on May 16th 2008

70. So, you've read and studied governor bush's military records? Where and how?

Save it, longwalker. I've heard it from you before. Same as your "homeless vet" bullshit. We're supposed to believe you because of your vast personal experience. And then you end up admitting you don't know diddly about the number of homeless vets.

Same this time. We're supposed to simply accept your claim of personal expertise. Either Bush was there for duty as required or he wasn't. He wasn't!

Sabre rattling and tough talk from a deserter like governor bush is just typical of the right wing.

Captain Negative at 3:02PM on May 16th 2008

71. A "cut and paste" (citing Washington Post and Boston Globe) regarding governor bush's military service and desertion from same...

Alabama vetrands offered a $1000.00 reward (later upped to $3000.00 to anyone who could show that governor bush served in the Alabama National Guard. Nobody collected.

We can see what two major newspapers say about it, or we can rely on longwalker's vast personal experience.

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The Washington Post reports that Bush joined the National Guard 12 days before his student deferment would have expired, and that in spite of his low score on the pilot's aptitude test (25, the lowest score allowed), and in spite of the waiting list that some kids spent years on, Bush was sworn in as an airman the day he applied. Indeed, so giddy was Bush's commander, Col. Walter B. "Buck" Staudt, that he later staged a special ceremony so he could have his picture taken giving Bush the oath, instead of the captain who actually had sworn Bush in. Bush spent two years learning to fly airplanes in his home state of Texas.

As the 2000 Presidential campaign moved along, angry veterans in Alabama claimed that George W Bush never performed any military service in that state, as stated on his campaign website. They offered a reward of $1000 (which rose to $3,500) to anyone who could prove that he had. No one came forth with any proof.
Eight days before the election, the Boston Globe reported discrepancies between the Bush campaign's statements regarding his military service and what records and documents showed. In 1972, the Globe reported, Bush moved from Houston to Mobile, Alabama to work on a Senate campaign. It was at this time, the Globe found, that he was suspended from flight duty for not taking his annual flight physical. Furthermore, the Globe could find no evidence that he ever performed any drills while in Alabama, or any more drills after returning to Houston.

Captain Negative at 3:13PM on May 16th 2008

72. longwalker, I already gave examples of, "October Surprises." Pay attention!

Captain Negative at 3:16PM on May 16th 2008

73. Don't flatter yourself cappy. You don't know the difference between ridicule and obsession? And you claim to be so smart! Looking forward to your next "contribution"-maybe the combination of the words republican and satan? May take you all weekend...

BirdmanJones at 3:29PM on May 16th 2008

74. The Birdman proves my point again.

Captain Negative at 3:36PM on May 16th 2008

75. Strados, if you reread my post #1, you'll see I never said "racism does not exist."

In the other hand, I notice you never bother to address the issues of sexism or misogyny at all. Bias is not only how you cover things, it's what you choose to cover and also what you choose to ignore.

Every point I made was made, I think, fairly clearly. I wrote that saying that race has been a factor in this election is not the same as saying that one would never vote outside one’s race.

I wrote that the press asked ONLY about race (and only asked whites, and I think only whites in WV), and did NOT ask about gender.

I said the press and some Obama supporters have taken a "guilty of racism until proven innocent" stance against Clinton supporters, ignoring or obfuscating issues with personality politics.

I wrote that much of the press has had a very unhealthy (for the electorate and for a democracy) love-affair with Obama, making him basically the new Teflon candidate.
This time I'll underscore that Obama overwhelmingly won MANY vastly majority white states at the start of this primary.
His color hasn't changed. The electorate's familiarily with him, with his associations, and with his positions, has.
I am sorely disappointed, if not downright dismayed at the apparent non-choice between Obama and McCain. Both want to do NOTHING substantive about the horribly unregulated state of international trade and multi-national corporations, about outsourcing, about depressed wages due to "insourcing," about the bizarre disconnect between attempting to maintain national sovereignty (while at “war on terror”) and simultaneously selling cyber-security contracts to China and allowing de facto open borders to our south, about the social security crisis, about the public education crisis, etc, etc, etc...

P at 5:25AM on May 17th 2008