By Jayar Jackson
Every time a big championship game is played, I wonder what it would be like to watch it with a person not involved but very personally invested in the outcome. When Lakers head coach Phil Jackson won his 9th NBA Title as a head coach in 2002, tying legendary coach Red Auerbach's number of titles, I wondered what Auerbach was saying and thinking as the man he openly criticized as a head coach was accomplishing what he had sole possession of.
When Peyton Manning watched the Super Bowl this past season, what thoughts did he have about his conference rival Patriots going against his younger brother's Giants? Sure, he gives glowing answers to the media when they ask him about the respect he has for the guys representing
Now that former Lakers star and avid trash talker Shaquille O'Neal has voiced a few of his thoughts about Kobe Bryant's recent NBA Finals loss at the hands of the Boston Celtics, I can take one person off my "I Wonder What He Was Saying" list.
A video surfaced at the beginning of the week showing Shaq in a
"Once again it's time to get braggadocios, the tall human being and that's right, Shaq-a-tocios, check out my lyrical slam slam, watch me flip flam flam, I re-frack the crim-clanks, I biggity bitch the bam bam"
aren't exactly lyrically killin 'em in the streets.
As he ripped into
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You can disagree with the insensitive timing; only a week after Kobe suffered the devastating loss in his MVP season, disagree with the vulgar words, which everyone should just calm down and finally get used to, but you can't fight the fact that this has rebuilt the excitement NBA fans have to see these two rival teammates go up against each other again next year. The season just ended and I'm already looking forward to November just to see how this will play out on the court. We have the never ending antics of Shaq to thank for that; people love him when he's talking for their side, but hate him as soon as he's against them. Just ask Lakers fans, that's some effective trash talking.
And I'll admit it, I had Shaq's album back in '93. The truth shall set me free!
Reader Comments ( Page 2 of 3)
16. I don't want to grant government any more leeway than I have to to fuck up shit it can't fix.
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But your a potty mouth socialist right? What part of Vermont are you from?
Shaq at 5:27PM on Jun 25th 2008
17. whatever Klaven:
Usually the excuse I hear on these blogs is only god hasthe right to take a life. You dont believe in god so that aint it.
You are wrong. They can fix the problem. A child rapists can not be fixed perhaps, but he sure as hell can be stopped. Your court makes another brilliant decision today.
Oh well, much better now. Germany 3 Turkey 2. and they are rioting in the streets of Istanbul. About as shocking as a pacman Jones arrest.
german guy at 5:10PM on Jun 25th 2008
18. 16. I don't want to grant government any more leeway than I have to to fuck up shit it can't fix.
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But your a potty mouth socialist right? What part of Vermont are you from?
Shaq at 5:08PM on Jun 25th 2008
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I'm from Bourbon County, Kansas, boy, or is shaq a girl name?
When you see a socialist, shoot the motherfucker.
Are you complaining about my disdain for cowards like you pantywaist death penalty advocates or for my vocabulary? I probably know more clean words than you, too.
Clif Kuplen at 5:19PM on Jun 25th 2008
19. WoW Clif whats with the angry little man rant?
I stopped by here for a quick read on Shaq and found you ranting about the "death penalty" and using profanity. Why don't you knock off the cursing, my kids and many other children can easily click on this blog. Grow up, "Clif" is an old man name so you should know better. Do your grandkids hear you talk that way, seriously grow up.
Damon Manser at 5:36PM on Jun 25th 2008
20. Frustrated racists are amusing.
We had to take it when the SCOTUS appointed dick & bush. You have to take it when SCOTUS does something right. Wingnuts are Sooooo emotional.
Everyone knows that capital punishment doesn't deter crime. It is blood-lust, pure and simple. A "feel-good-solution" for tough-talkers.
I would make an exception for treason and war crimes. Oil up some ropes for dick, Governor bush, Rummy and Rove.
Actually, I would be content to see them all sharing the same cell block.
Captain Negative at 5:40PM on Jun 25th 2008
21. Why don't you knock off the cursing, my kids and many other children can easily click on this blog.
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Then you aren't much of a parent.
Why me?
Have you ever read here? Aren't you one of the ones who regularly call the blog host a young turd? Have you read thomas gassett? paul spermicello or whatever it is?
My reply was to some lurker who claims to be a german and who has previously polluted a number of threads with his blatantly racist and frankly nazi points of view.
You can read more of the same here.
Are you ok with nazi propaganda and racism for your children, then?
Read german guy and think of 'community standards'. He also favors presumption of guilt prior to trial rather than innocence. Do you? That's not an AMERICAN doctrine.
And why don't you have parental restraints on your computers?
I'll say it again because I stand for it. To Help you along, an old acquaintance of mine noted that only the middle letters of dirty words are offensive, e.g. fuck is offensive but f--k is not.
So to prevent offending the sensitivities of the children that I hope some state agency is noting get to surf the net at your house without adult supervision, I'll leave out the offensive middle letters.
I am opposed to the death penalty for a very conservative reason. I oppose giving the government any more leeway than I have to in f--king up s--t that they can't fix.
There ya go. The offensive middle letters have been cleansed.
Now let me say that if you were serious you wouldn't have included the rest of your attempt to scrabble to moral high ground.
To which I reply, you're a phony.
All this crap was because you can't take the statement on head on. If you want to kill people convicted of any crime, use your own ratonale.
I told you in no uncertain terms why I DON'T and your reply was that you don't monitor your kids when they're on the internet so it's my responsibility.
What else...oh, right.
I'M supposed to grow up.
Clif Kuplen at 6:38PM on Jun 25th 2008
22. wow, maybe I am getting old.
Damon, why would your kids be on a blog where shaq is talking about the taste of his own ass and why would you be lecturing to me on profanity on such a blog?
so. you got anything else?
Clif Kuplen at 6:43PM on Jun 25th 2008
23. >>>Are you complaining about my disdain for cowards like you pantywaist death penalty advocates or for my vocabulary? I probably know more clean words than you, too.
Clif Kuplen at 5:19PM on Jun 25th 2008>>>
Here Clif, chew on this you dysfunctional douche'bag.. Spin this one away about your hero..
"Obama disagrees with high court on child rape case"
Read the entire article on AOL & see if you can comprehend his intent. See how objective you can be Clif,, try real hard...
Bobby at 7:39PM on Jun 25th 2008
24. >>>Read german guy and think of 'community standards'. He also favors "presumption" of guilt prior to trial rather than innocence. Do you? That's not an AMERICAN doctrine.>>>
Write all your Supreme Court Justices Clif & ask them their opinion of your assessment of justice. Ask them the difference between "presumption" & "assumption". Take the challenge Clif, we'll wait for their answers then you can rub my face all in it if you're right you little insignificant toad.
Bobby at 8:01PM on Jun 25th 2008
25. Read the entire article on AOL & see if you can comprehend his intent. See how objective you can be Clif,, try real hard...
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Why should I do that, Bobby? It won't influence my vote.
As I mentioned on the other thread, I stand for certain things that you don't.
I am for, not against the Bill Of Rights and Habeas Corpus, unlike you. Also, I want Bin Laden caught and preferably killed. You don't.
We have other differences, but those positions are not anything I would call American.
And I ask you again, Bobby, what kind of American is opposed to habeas and the bill of rights and wants to give bin laden a free pass?
Now as to the death penalty, bobby, I have spoken very clearly.
If you want to take another stance, I'll be happy to discuss it with you, bobby. You're welcome to try out as many expletives as you like and the fellow Damon can take issue with you instead of me.
OK. Now let's take inventory again. You said that Obama opposes the SC decision.
I disagree with that, but it's not a deal breaker. We've had capital punishment again since 1976, bobby, so it's not one of the things I expect to change all at once.
However, in Sen. Obama's home state, there was a moratorium on the death penalty for the reason I'm opposed to it: they f--cked it up. I left out the u and c because they offend damon or damien or whatever it was - the middle letters are apparently the dirty ones.
So we're where we were before.
You hold some ideas that are historically very un-American and you ought to take your country and your freedom a lot more seriously than you're showing you do here, but that's going to be your duty of care, not mine, bobby.
I do, however, know how I'm going to vote. I note a tendency of your party to go overboard one way or the other and a tendency to believe that ordinary reasonable prudent persons do as well, but that's not the case.
If these Un American values are important to you, calling me a douchebag isn't going to distract from the fact you believe the way you do and that it's not the American way, bobby.
I hope you can just calm down, collect your thoughts and reflect a little more objectively on who your fellow Americans are, not what some republican propagandist wants you to believe. You may not be voting in your best interest unless you're very very wealthy, bobby.
Clif Kuplen at 8:14PM on Jun 25th 2008
26. Habeas Corpus, Habeas Schmorpus Clif, that's what I think of it coming from the likes of you. I've given my opinion many times before on who that writ is reserved for. It doesn't include foreign nationals known as "unlawful enemy combatants" of which most of them have never set foot on American soil. Take the rest of your evening & uncover this mysterious quote of mine saying I'm against the citizenry of this country receiving a fair trial.
Find the other quote of mine about me not wanting OBL dead you cranial midget. Find where I don't wish to see his corpse swinging in the stagnant air of his homeland. You took my sarcasm about you mounting a defense fund for him as serious, you're on your game Clif, smart boy...
Take the challenge I offered Clif, get back with me on the results & post them on a relevant blog. Ginsberg would laugh at your stupidity. Serve your self interests you little bitch,, I'll see you on the next blog. I'm invading Shaq's time now, no doubt another of your heroes...
Bobby at 8:38PM on Jun 25th 2008
27. Klaven:
Stop lying about me you senile old sack of feces. Your just pissed we want to kill you gay child molesting pedaphiles.
I dont agree with you and I am the Nazi. Talk about racist rants. I guess that is ok because germans are white.
I used to think you atleast had some sense but i surely oversetimated you.
Let me see if i have this correct. I want to kill child rapists and that makes me a coward.
You want to kill socialists and unborn babies and that makes you an ardant supporter of the constitution.
You make no sense what so ever. When in doubt and you get caught do what you liberals do best, throw up the race card.
So climb back on captains ass or are you the bitch. Next time you get stuck with your pants down just take your ass whippin instead of trying to turn the tables on me with lies. I am not involved in your disgraceful conduct. Im sure thats just your normal demeanor.
If that pissed you off I am sure you are really steaming about the liberal supremes backing big oil with a reduction in the exxon case of punitives to almost nothing. There you go with your oil for blood and enron loophole rant.
In other news, which I am sure sticks in your ass just as bad or worse than private, the government arrested about 500 pimps and prostitutes. The kind that prey on little kids. I am somewhat surprised you are still posting. Did you make bail already? Some of your house mates unavailable for the usual festivities tonight.
Other than your fantastic voyage on privates hershey highway, it sure has been a bad day hasnt it Klaven.
And you know what got you admonished dont you? You had to get brave and step away from your usual boiler plate and it just didnt resonate did it.
Why wasnt your mother exercising her rights to abortion on that fateful day. Oh, right, no abortion rights in the 1920's.
german guy at 8:56PM on Jun 25th 2008
28. Klaven:
it just keeps getting worse. The queen stripped Mugabe of his knighthood. Man, how unfair is that. He has killed millions of people but never been convicted. whats wrong with that bitch. How dare she?
How can she treat one of your heroes like that. i can hear you screaming from here, " he was never even convicted!"
the only thing that could make today worse for you is if they found out Padilla or Chavez have cancer. you need to just take the rest of today and collect your thoughts. I know things must have been tough today.
well, atleast Obama didnt come out against the supremes in that pedaphile thing...Oh, right, he did. Really bad day huh klaven. Well, atleast you got to bash christians on double d's blog.
german guy at 9:17PM on Jun 25th 2008
29. 6. Habeas Corpus, Habeas Schmorpus Clif, that's what I think of it coming from the likes of you.
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You don't know the first thing about the 'likes of me', bobby. That's mere bravado.
I do see that you have no respect for the body of the constitution, however, from that remark. And I maintain that it's un American.
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I've given my opinion many times before on who that writ is reserved for. It doesn't include foreign nationals known as "unlawful enemy combatants" of which most of them have never set foot on American soil.
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Bobby, this must have been past you many times. Before the recent SC position, there are absolutely no safeguards that this, FISA evasion or other tactics can't be used against the bushcain admin's political enemies.
There is a numbered presidential statement that makes this so.
I have it in my bookmarks but I'd assume you know all about it, just can't address it because it knocks the props out from under your attempts to qualify the law some way.
As you know, bobby, the bush administration is very vindictive about their political enemies.
Look at Joe Wilson and Richard Clarke for just a couple of examples. Look at the attorney general's office for many more. There will probably be a lot more on that after congress and the president is installed, bobby.
Karl Rove may yet go to prison for what he did to the governor of Alabama, bobby.
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Take the rest of your evening & uncover this mysterious quote of mine saying I'm against the citizenry of this country receiving a fair trial.
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I have no need to. You don't take any time at all, bobby.
It is the only constructive conclusion from your support of the presidential orders you enumerated.
You make clear you don't respect habeas corpus and you're clear that bush has the authority to declare anyone, including a United States citizen an enemy combatant.
We know this is true because it already happened, so there's no need for the direct quote.
There is no possible way you could NOT support it, bobby.
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Find the other quote of mine about me not wanting OBL dead you cranial midget.
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Bobby, your quotes came from another thread. I think maybe it would be good to refresh your memory on that topic, so here you go:
Where is Bin Laden" you ask? Do you seriously really care? If found, that would give you one less antagonistic issue to argue, not debate.
It's pointless to offer you a rational answer, it only raises your ire to the boiling level of insanity.
Bin Laden is gone to where all good little terrorists go, into oblivion neutered & diffused & rendered as powerless as your talking points.
That pisses you off though, doesn't it Clif? You'd rather him (sic) be apprehended so you can picket outside his temporary holding cell while you & your cronies mount a defense for him in criminal court. How many quarters have you saved up for his defense fund Clif?
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I don't see any interest in capturing bin Laden at all there, bobby.
I see a vehement opposition to me that roves on into psychodrama.
Since I favor capturing and killing him, and you are obviously opposed to me, maybe you're a little confused on your position vis a vis Bin Laden?
According to you, he's into oblivion, neutered, diffused, etc. I brought the whole thing over so you wouldn't be 'taken out of context' like bush and rush and bill islamoreilly and the rest of your ideological soulmates always say they are.
And we are in agreement still that you support bush 100%, right, bobby?
ok, let's look at what else you posted..
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Find where I don't wish to see his corpse swinging in the stagnant air of his homeland.
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That was a little convoluted, but in character. If you want him dead, it sure didn't come over that way, did it, bobby?
What did you say? oh, yeah..."Bin Laden is gone to where all good little terrorists go, into oblivion neutered & diffused & rendered as powerless as your talking points."
No, bobby, it doesn't read at all like you want bin laden dead - seems to me you're ok with him being right where he is, and worse than that, you're ridiculing me because I want him hunted down and caught, right? We're still in context, right? You're not being misrepresented or anything?
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You took my sarcasm about you mounting a defense fund for him as serious, you're on your game Clif, smart boy...
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bobby, so there won't be any mistake, I pasted everything forward you wrote.
As I said then, your fantasy of what democrats are like comes from rush limbaugh or something. I get the impression you actually believe stuff like that and believing it somehow excuses you for taking anti American, anti Constitutional and I'll say unpatriotic stances and trying to hide it by the written equivalent of talking to O'Roarke on the big white telephone.
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Take the challenge I offered Clif, get back with me on the results & post them on a relevant blog.
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Well, here ya go.
You haven't corrected anything. You're still against the bill of rights and habeas and you're for leaving bin laden alone, I guess.
No, I don't think that's patriotic at all, bobby.
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Ginsberg would laugh at your stupidity.
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Which ginsberg? Alan? An uncle of yours or something? He could laugh like you do, but you've let the issues I've brought up stand, haven't you, bobby?
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Serve your self interests you little bitch,, I'll see you on the next blog.
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bobby, you're getting yourself all worked into a snit again. Just calm down.....
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I'm invading Shaq's time now, no doubt another of your heroes...
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No, I don't have many thoughts on shaq at all. You aren't a very good guesser, bobby. Sayyy, are you being disparaging of black people? I'd suggest you try saying whatever to shaq's face. You can try the same with me if you get the chance and you're bold enough.
Well, read your words again and you'll probably see why I think you're not much of an American, bobby.
I don't really condone destruction of the constitution, no matter how many fuck words you know.
BTW, There are books you can buy with clever putdowns if you can't think of any. You need some serious help there. You're just sputtering between treasonous utterances, and it's not really very effective. You'd do better if you'd just calm down.
You strike me as an enraged and rather impotent person, bobby. Still, that's no reason to sell out your country.
Clif Kuplen at 9:31PM on Jun 25th 2008
30. Wow private:
Amazing. Someone disagrees with the decision not to execute child rapists and that makes them a racist.
What is it called when you are the stupidist of the idiots? Is it liberal or something like that? whatever that is, thats you. No wonder people just generally ignore your lunacy. At the risk of encouraging you, I would really like to know the basis for that rational.
If you want to execute child rapists that makes you a racist? it potentially makes you a lot of things, but racist isnt one of them. It really is hard to think with such a tiny brain isnt it? Just ask klaven, he'll tell you.
I guess when self interest is involved, ( yes, i am calling you a pedaphile) people do and say anything.
I noticed you have an affinity for typing scotus any chance you get. reminds you of something else you are even more fond of doesnt it?
german guy at 9:41PM on Jun 25th 2008