31. Whoever doctored these photos at Fox News should be fired or at least reprimanded and given a couple weeks off without pay. However, this really proves nothing, except that there are a couple of schmucks at Fox, out of hundreds, who don't have any professional integrity.

The idea that the Networks, CNN, MSNBC and CNN are playing it straight while Fox is lying about the news is laughable. On any given day you can find Associated Press editorials masquerading as News stories. And the media couldn't be any more gushy and biased about Barrack Obama. The idea that Chris Matthews has a "thrill running up (his) leg" is creepy and unprofessional.

Dan Rather and CBS News just simply made up a story about GW Bush and Rather's only defense was that is couldn't be disproved. I remember Peter Jennings, when folks voted in 96' for Republicans Congressmen in huge numbers, describing the entirety of the vote as a "temper tantrum".

Jason Blair of the NY Times famously made stuff up and was eventually fired. Eason Jordan of CNN played down the genocidal violence In Iraq - in a manner which he later admitted was highly unprofessional - under Saddam because it allowed him access to news in Iraq.

And the "Cafferty Report" on CNN featured the host, speculating for weeks about a coming Rove indictment and chuckling on several occasions about the idea of Rove in an "orange jump-suit".

Fox news may not be perfect, but they attempt to balance the debate with a substantial number of liberals and progressives, which is undeniable. Yes, the big stars, like Hannity and O'Reilly lean right, but they have many lefties as well.

And excuse me, how many conservatives does CNN and MSNBC have? Joe Scarborough, Glenn Beck and Lou Dobbs. That's about it. Nice balance.

And Cenk, Cliff and the Cap are apoplectic about Fox News because Fox is killing the competition and actually having something resembling an intelligent debate on the issues. Real political discourse - What a concept. The three C's would rather have TV stations stifle debate and spoon feed liberal news, like pablum, to America. Yuck.

Dave at 5:44PM on Jul 4th 2008

32. Your a freakin joke you moron, you honestly think anyone takes you serious besides your fluffers Clif and Capt. I have seen myspace blogs and my local newspaper get more comments than you idiot. If MSNBC or CNN did this, your pathetic ass wouldn't be babbling on about it. You far left morons have made your little career off of writing insignificant stories about Fox.

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wow, rat hypertension.

Ben, you'll never make it to my age if you don't just calm down.

Smoke a joint or hit your crack pipe or somethin' - go yank little bennie - how'd you get so uptight so soon? You too ugly to get a woman, or whatever you crave? Not that there's anything wrong with that..

Just calm down, sport - life's a marathon unless you croak early.

You never had a civics or history class, so you only know what dittoheads tell you. It's easy to convince you that somehow the country was always like this. It wasn't.

Come november you will see changes, but they will be good ones.

Republicanism is essentially a Ponzi scheme, and as our nation's statistics tell you, Ponzi schemes are crooked.

Let me tell you about Fox. This is all I need:

When Mark Foley was outed, he was repeatedly labeled a democrat. Not once but repeatedly with no corrections.

When Larry Craig got caught, same thing.

When David Vitters got caught paying for prostitutes (illegal where getting a blow job from a consenting adult isn't) they didn't name his political party.

No apologies, no retractions. Apparently, that was their intention.

No major network ever did anything like that and if they did they would have spent millions on retraction.

If there were any question about Fox and journalism and integrity, that answered it forever.

You can't unring a bell

They're a right wing propaganda outlet unless Murdoch goes liberal as he's been rumored to at least be considering.

Fox is to news and governmental philosophy as WWF is to the NFL.

Personally, I'm a football guy, not a wrestling guy.

If your IQ makes you more comfortable with fox news and judge judy and wooooh! shows or American Idol, seek your level and don't worry about it.

Fox is made just for you, like those little cardboard pretzels, velveeta and wellbutrin!

Clif Kuplen at 6:04PM on Jul 4th 2008

33.
The idea that the Networks, CNN, MSNBC and CNN are playing it straight while Fox is lying about the news is laughable.

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right. They know better than to have a press office and staff in Iraq. Instead, they had one in Aruba for a year. God bless the natalie holloway babymama fistjab hussein channel!

Clif Kuplen at 6:07PM on Jul 4th 2008

34. After you folks run out of rational arguments (if you ever had any),rather than bombard us with vulgarisms, outrageous nonsense, and personal indulgence, please move on. If your only reason for contributing is to anger and bait others, or listen to your own rantings, start your own blog.

Natural Puppy at 6:23PM on Jul 4th 2008

35. On any given day you can find Associated Press editorials masquerading as News stories.

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do you have any photoshopped AP examples? Anything from Anywhere besides Fox, Al Jazeera or some harvest show?

In 2008, foxnews is synonymous with a load of crap. these days, people take a fox, leave a couple of hannitys in the bowl and wipe their bill islamoreilly's with a chunk of coulter and girls flush their spent michelle malkins on their lunar holy days.

But liberals LOVE it! rev babymama fist jabs all around!

Who's sane, '08.

Clif Kuplen at 6:19PM on Jul 4th 2008

36. 33.
The idea that the Networks, CNN, MSNBC and CNN are playing it straight while Fox is lying about the news is laughable.

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right. They know better than to have a press office and staff in Iraq. Instead, they had one in Aruba for a year. God bless the natalie holloway babymama fistjab hussein channel!

Clif Kuplen at 6:07PM on Jul 4th 2008
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You're stuttering Clif. CNN aka the Cash News Network that paid Saddam for access to "cover" Iraq and had their little "follower" with them wherever they went is a legitimate news channel? My Space NBC where what they want you to know is what they show with little pretense of any balance let alone fair. Let's do CBS...didn't they put explosive charges in pickups, then roll them and detonate the charges to show how "deadly" the trucks were? 60 Minutes is famous for using lighting, editing and BS on their hit pieces, but nary a comment from you on that. You hit Fox for covering Holloway, when all the majors were fixated on Anna Nicole Smith before, during and after she died.

Now all your recommended channels are not even mentioning Iraq, it's Afghanistan and the same old tripe...not enough troops, inadequate equipment etc. Your channels have been slamming the economy, whining about gas prices but not one story on what the root causes are. No increase in supply from OPEC since 1973, the world is getting more industrialized creating more demand, no offshore drilling since '78, no nuclear plants constructed to keep our supplies of natural gas from getting depleted to make "clean" power. No stories on that but global warming? Holy Mother, the Prophet AlGore and his lieing ass has become a staple diet of your "news channels". Even the NASA scientist that said we only had 20 years left 20 years ago, commes on and is taken as a high priest of infallibility when he's dredged up again to make more pronouncements. You've become that which you rail against, a left-wing McCarthyite hunting down republicans, conservatives and anyone else that dares cross your ideological pathway through the darkness. Your own leftwingers who brought up Obie's blackness in the first place now say he has no "slave blood" in him. Is there a test for "slaveblood" asswipe? Mama Obie has it so she's down for the struggle but Obie is lacking. Obie also just "nuanced" his position on Iraq, now we withdraw a few here, a few there but a lot stay in the "Sandbox".

If you're as old as you say you are Clif, you shouldn't be as gullible as some of the younger folks, but I see that even they aren't buying the party line you are. Good for the US, bad for Obamie because the young have a short attention span and Obie is just the current fad along with global warming, ethanol, etc., but you knew that all along didn't you?

Dedmanrisn at 7:24PM on Jul 4th 2008

37. 35. After you folks run out of rational arguments (if you ever had any),rather than bombard us with vulgarisms, outrageous nonsense, and personal indulgence, please move on. If your only reason for contributing is to anger and bait others, or listen to your own rantings, start your own blog.

Natural Puppy at 6:23PM on Jul 4th 2008
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Puppy: You can stay and see who the major offenders are, you can offer your opinion and see if you get name called for it and by whom, especially itf you are not toeing the leftist DNC move.on crowd. Otherwise, I suggest you should leave now as there are some who don't share your sympathies. As for me, you came in, you made a statement and I'm replying to it. You do as you like, stay n play or just find another, kinder blog. As far as I'm concerned, you can stay and welcome.

Dedmanrisn at 7:34PM on Jul 4th 2008

38. Do you mean the picture of Arrianna Huffington where she was once "male" back in grade school? I think it's true. She WAS. He was a member of the KinderCorps back in Germany.

POLITICAL SPIT at 7:46PM on Jul 4th 2008

39. Chike talks about people taking anyone seriously ...no there's a good one.

ChenkSuckkkks at 7:59PM on Jul 4th 2008

40. someone should doctor your photo you ugly ass.

ChenkSuckkkks at 8:00PM on Jul 4th 2008

41. You're stuttering Clif. CNN aka the Cash News Network that paid Saddam for access to "cover" Iraq and had their little "follower" with them wherever they went is a legitimate news channel?

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n-n-n-nope.

N-not even remotely close, duh duh duh deadman.

cash is as good as corporate, which I call them.

You mention a single incident, but their news coverage is virtually nil. MSNBC as far as I can see is mainly a true crime reality channel. They do have the only non conservative commentator on television, and they are blowing in the wind towards a bit more liberalism, but they're still corporate first and foremost.

You act like msnbc or cnn is some opposite side of the coin of Fox. It's more like you turn over a rock and they're all there.

You get sponsor serving crap from blitzer, dobbs, matthews, cooper, abrams - garbage and self serving goofballs. I can't sit through any fox crap - it's too much like judge judy or montel - not my cup of tea.

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My Space NBC where what they want you to know is what they show with little pretense of any balance let alone fair.

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That's all because bill islamoreilly gets his pants taken down nightly by Olbermann.

Islamoreilly is there for parody anyway. When he started supporting child sex molesters like NAMBLA and fox did nothing, that to me puts fox and NAMBLA in the same camp.

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Let's do CBS...didn't they put explosive charges in pickups, then roll them and detonate the charges to show how "deadly" the trucks were?

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you do CBS if you want to. I'm voting for Obama instead.

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0 Minutes is famous for using lighting, editing and BS on their hit pieces, but nary a comment from you on that.

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OK here's a comment. I think 60 minutes has been pretty goddamn stupid after the seventies and I don't watch it anymore.

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You hit Fox for covering Holloway, when all the majors were fixated on Anna Nicole Smith before, during and after she died.

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Including Fox. Anna Nicole blew Iraq and the economy off the docket. In fact if you tune in, they'll report anything but war or political news.

This is sort of republicanism - yeah, i fuck sheep but everyone else major does it too. Nope, some of us just ain't sheepfuckers at all.

I don't know where you get your information but if you think that I endorse ANY network television news show, you're out of your mind. Stewart maybe and South Park a little, but that'd be about it.

Don't you get at least SOME instructions with your talking points? Like the flipflop expiration dates, even, or which side to insert in that slot y'all must have in the back of your heads?

Your argument in favor of fox and then trying to define your opposition as what you were told to think instead of what an intelligent person would conclude tells me you're more programmed than not.

Anyway, none of this is changing any votes. You're just spinning your wheels there.

Fox sucks, corporate media sucks and if there's to be any remedy, it will come from regulation and that's a liberal concept, not letting corporations put their profit over our country's well being.

The republican concept is pretty much 'do what you will shall be the whole of the law.' It's at least their economic philosophy and for many it's the governing philosophy.

So I'm voting for Obama.

Clif Kuplen at 8:49PM on Jul 4th 2008

42. If you're as old as you say you are Clif, you shouldn't be as gullible as some of the younger folks, but I see that even they aren't buying the party line you are.

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Boy, gullibility comes from never studying American or World History and never studying civics or the constitution.

If you're a survivor you'll get to where I am, and if not, rest in peace - your responsibility, not mine.

That said, the only place where young people aren't responding to Obama's message is at your talking point station.

You are very disrespectful of those who are young. They aren't all what you apparently were when you were coming up to think what you do of them.

Where do you think all that money the Obama campaign came from, jesus?

Obama is the young person's candidate, and mine because he and his party have foresight and a proven track record where republicanism can think only for the moment to hold the double standards that constitute republicanism.

None of the foofery is moving the marker this year and doing more of it won't either. Go vote and I will too.

Do your babymama fist jabs if you think it will help.

Clif Kuplen at 9:03PM on Jul 4th 2008

43. Probably the thing to walk away with is the wingnuts could give a damn whether fox doctored photos or called republicans democrats when they get gay or letting bill islamoreilly come down on the side of child molesters or any other damn thing.

There's obviously a very robust codependency and it apparently overrides just about everything.

What do they hope to get out of it? License to hate is about all I can come up with. Anyone got an idea? It seems to be stronger than sex or money and not even remotely grounded in reality.

Man that was some beezer on the dude's 'after' picture. Were they trying to make him a muslim or black or neil cavuto after a sex change to all male from kleinfelters or whatever he is?

I'm stumped

Clif Kuplen at 9:17PM on Jul 4th 2008

44. Clif-you said in post #31
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You never had a civics or history class, so you only know what dittoheads tell you. It's easy to convince you that somehow the country was always like this. It wasn't.

Come november you will see changes, but they will be good ones.

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I take that to mean you believe what Cenk points out is a sign of the Bush times, is something that will go away and we go back to happy, happy Demcorat times.

I think you may have missed the same lessons in civics and history and listened to your ditto heads.

Examples-Reuters Admitted to Doctoring up Photos of bomings of a city to make it look worse than it actually was. 08/06

Katie Couric pictures were doctored up to make her look fat 09/06

Toledo Times Allan Detrich one time Pulitzer Prize finalist and 4 time winner of Ohio News Photographer award man of the year, admitted he doctored 80 photo images in 14 weeks, just prior to quitting his job after his photo doctoring was discovered 10/05

Newsweek front cover showed Martha Stewart's head on the a models body to make her look better 03/05

2004 a digital photo was circulated showing Kerry and Jane Fonda speaking together at a peace rally in 1971. Pictures of Fonda and Kerry were from different locations, they did not appear together at the rally.

Condi Rice picture was doctored to where it gave her an evil eye look about her USA Today 10/05

There is a web site that goes back in time and up to the future showing doctored photos that were made over a wide time period.

HTTP://.cs.dartmouth.edu/farid/research/digitaltampering/

Doctored photos will not disappear and dishonest journalists are Right and Left Wingnuts.

This is not a blip in history because of Bush.

Cenk's story is a joke and it would seem to be a filler to distract the problems Obuma is having with the Progresive Left Wingnuts and his flip flops to some of Bush's idea's and beliefs.

robert okane at 9:47PM on Jul 4th 2008

45. Clif

was it you or someone else who aid you never watch Fox, CNN, or MSNBC.

Gotta look that up

robert okane at 9:50PM on Jul 4th 2008