The philosopher Leo Strauss once spoke of the reductio ad Hitlerum. By this he meant the promiscuous tendency of people to try to score a debating point by comparing their opponents to Hitler. The form of the argument is something like this: "My opponent doesn't like strawberry ice cream. Hitler didn't like strawberry ice cream. My opponent is just like Hitler." Strauss's point was that the reductio ad Hitlerum is the mark of the lazy and illogical mind.
Sure enough, here is Richard Dawkins employing the reductio against me in a recent comment on his website richarddawkins.net. Referring to me and a conservative rabbi named Boteach, Dawkins writes: "It occurs to me that people like Boteach and D'Souza may be honestly unaware that they shriek and yell in such an unbecoming way. Maybe this is just what preachers of a certain kind do. So people who profession is to preach, or who live their lives surrounded by preachers, just don't hear their ugly yells and shrieks as we do. They have become so inured to the preaching style of yelling that the resemblance to Hitler passes them by.
"I'm not suggesting that Boteach and D'Souza have literally damaged their ears. But at a higher cortical level they may have become desensitized through years of preaching, and exposure to preachers, so they don't hear, and literally and honestly don't understand, the strong resemblance to the hideous vocal style of Hitler. Once again, I need to emphasize that the comparison with Hitler is limited to vocal style. Of course nobody is suggesting that either Boteach or D'Souza have similar opinions to Hitler, or resemble him in any other way at all.
"But imagine listening to a Boteach speech or a D'Souza speech or a Hitler speech with no knowledge of English or German. I suspect that you'd hardly notice the difference. Contrast it with a speech by Christopher Hitchens. The voice is strong, even a little thrilling. But there's no hysteria there. The words match the content: measured, thoughtful, strong and powerful but never hysterical."
Had this not appeared on Dawkins' website, I would have thought it parody. But who can bring himself to laugh? Does Dawkins have any idea of how gross it is to compare a rabbi to Hitler on the sole ground that both men had a tendency to raise their voices? If this isn't anti-Semitism at the very least it shows a shocking disregard for what the Holocaust means to Jews. Perhaps the kindest explanation is that Dawkins has a pathological hatred for the clergy, and Boteach is a rabbi.
I, on the other hand, am a scholar and author. Dawkins, who knows this, weirdly insinuates that I am a preacher or spend most of my time with preachers. This couldn't be further from the truth. I have been a secular writer for 20 years and mostly I speak to university audiences and business groups. Moreover, the atheists I debate, like Michael Shermer and Peter Singer and Christopher Hitchens, routinely tell me how effectively I use wit and repartee and rhetorical understatement and learned analogies to make my points. Far from using "yells" and "shrieks," the only time I can recall even raising my voice was during my debate with Daniel Dennett, and this was not because I was upset but only because the microphone was not working properly.
I suspect that Dawkins has come up with this pathetic reductio ad Hitlerum in order to justify his cowardice in not debating me. "I can't debate Dinesh because he will use his Hitler voice to shout me down." Isn't the real problem that Dawkins has used his zoologist's credentials in order to wander into fields (physics, astronomy, history, phiosophy, anthropology, theology) where his knowledge is embarrassingly limited? I suspect he's worried that in a debate I will exposure his ignorance and make him an international object of ridicule.
Why not prove me wrong, Richard? Come out from under your desk and take me up on my invitation to debate. I promise to speak in whispers!
And here's some news from our Department of Atheists Who Aren't Wimps: On Friday July 11, I will debate Christopher Hitchens at the big libertarian conference Freedom Fest in Las Vegas. Our topic is "Christianity, Islam and the War on Terror." For more information go to freedomfest.com or simply click here.



Reader Comments ( Page 2 of 29)
16. Oh, good grief, DD. Stop whining because someone ripped off your own "special" (AKA: the typical pre-law student who is stuck on using fallacies) brand of logic.
Do you honestly NOT see how much sense Hitchens made? I have heard before that turnabout is fair play. I have also heard to not put crap in writing unless you want to be wiping it off your shoes ad nauseum.
web jones at 8:46AM on Jul 7th 2008
17. oops...I meant Dawkins...(tee hee)
web jones at 8:48AM on Jul 7th 2008
18. Dinesh,
That comment comming from a drunken speach sluring lush, means about as much as water poured unto the ground.
Observant at 8:48AM on Jul 7th 2008
19. "RyanAnderson"..... it should be noted that Dawkins made these comments on a forum, not as a public statement.
You would think it would take longer than a few hours for the news to spread.
asdasd at 9:45AM on Jul 7th 2008
20. "Reductio ad Hitlerum" - It's so true. I've always frowned on this technique. Shame on Dawkins, mega-shame on D'Souza. Dinesh, you've employed this device so many times, it's intellectually reckless of you to innocently denounce it, so don't fucking try to deny it. Reminds me of a certain duo of conversing cookware.
Mokele Mbembe at 8:52AM on Jul 7th 2008
21. Observant; I think you are thinking of Hitchens.
Ryan Anderson at 8:53AM on Jul 7th 2008
22. Shrieking and yelling, as well as spewing relentless hatred, is more typically displayed by those who disagree with Dinesh D'Souza, and can be readily seen in among these very comments of his blog posts!
I have sat in the audience twice during while Dinesh gave a speech, and he never once shrieked or yelled. Dinesh does not need to, he speaks the truth. Only those who know they are lying need to try to intimidate others with shrieking and yelling.
Richard Dawkins' anti-semitism seems to be so natural that he does not even realize it, it my opinion. In his awful book, THE GOD DELUSION, he writes that the Jews are a notoriously influential special interest group in Washington D.C. He seems to be completely unaware, having been around anti-semites so long, how bigoted his comments are, but then, isn't that the whole point of Richard Dawkins and his ilk and followers, to make religious bigotry seem logical and even "intellectual?"
In the excellent film, EXPELLED, David Berlinski describes Richard Dawkins as being a bit of a reptile, (presumably for seemingly being so cold-blooded and heartless towards God and the faithful). When we consider how Dawkins is now trying to justify his fear of debating Dinesh D'Souza by comparing him to Hitler, I would describe Richard Dawkins as a bit of a chicken.
Bock, bock, bock. Here is the leading atheist thinker on the planet. He is afraid of Dinesh D'Souza.
Who is afraid of Dinesh D'Souza? Richard Dawkins is.
Rev 3:16 at 8:53AM on Jul 7th 2008
23. Mokele; DD's preacherly yelling really reminds me of Hitler though. Would it be better to use Tito or Mussolini as an example instead of Hitler?
Hitler is more accurate though.
Ryan Anderson at 8:55AM on Jul 7th 2008
24. This is actually amusing. People trying to accuse Dawkins of being anti-semitic. Wasn't it DD's girlfriend that went on air talking about how Jews were 'imperfect christians'?
a born atheist at 8:57AM on Jul 7th 2008
25. Very well written article Dinesh. I would love to see you debate Dawkins, it would be the thrashing of the century. Ignore the criticisms below, most of them are without substance.
Interesting how there are so few Christians commenting, I think religious people have more peace of mind, whereas atheist people are increasingly compelled to speak out against somebody who doesn't share their beliefs.
That sounds Hitler-esque, don't you think?
Jon at 9:09AM on Jul 7th 2008
26. There goes dd again.....
hi Rev 3:16....oops, I mean Kumar. Oops, I mean Tsar Nicholas II......
America's Most Gangsta at 9:18AM on Jul 7th 2008
27. Rev,
Expelled has a RottenTomatoes.com rating of 8%, with plenty of reason. Compare that to From Justin To Kelly. Go look.
Mokele Mbembe at 9:40AM on Jul 7th 2008
28. It's well known that liberal atheists control RottenTomatoes.com
Ryan Anderson at 9:52AM on Jul 7th 2008
29. asdasd; I heard about it in May. I'm not really that well connected.
Ryan Anderson at 9:52AM on Jul 7th 2008
30. Ryan,
Ha! Who knows? Passion OTC got an even 50% BTW.
Mokele Mbembe at 9:57AM on Jul 7th 2008