1. So, you are acknowledging that Barack Obama and the other Democrats have no backbone?

David Pitlock at 10:59AM on Jul 11th 2008

2. Poor poor Cenk, he can't get over this.

What he doesn't understand is the belief system behind the bullshit the libs spew all the time.

When it gets down to the meat of the issue they always have to cave from lack of substance. You can't protect against an invisible enemy without night vision capability in a dark closet.

Again, this is why Obama is moving toward the center. It's all about gaining substance for his final thrust. He never had any core values, his campaign is a search for chemistry at all cost.

Before this is over, you'll see him wiggling his position on energy when it comes down to being the most critical issue on the agenda. He'll sell you out on this as well.

Bookmark me Clifford, this will happen....

Bobby at 11:32AM on Jul 11th 2008

3. How has this affected you? What rights have you given up Cenk? Will you list them?

John at 11:46AM on Jul 11th 2008

4. 1. So, you are acknowledging that Barack Obama and the other Democrats have no backbone?
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I would say so with the approval rating of Congress in the single digits.

Mosef at 11:52AM on Jul 11th 2008

5. Once again, signs of a sell-out. To whom are they selling out to- and why?

Robert at 1:12PM on Jul 11th 2008

6. Cenk
Your boy stabbed you and other Left Wingnuts in the back. Your boy should be named OBUSH or BUSHAMA, because he is acting more like Bush than Bush. Does Obama=Bush now?

OBUSH

Bushama

Obama=Bush

Hillary voted NO on FISA fat boy.

The not yet selected nominees for President from the Republican and Democrat Parties, McCain and Obama both voted YEA for FISA.

Obama has once again lied. Obama keeps changing his positions on major issues, and even votes different on issues that got him where he is now. FISA was a big item and Obama Flip Flopped to favoring FISA to even voting for FISA.
Obama, maybe better known as Bushama, voted for the McCain-Feingold Public Financing Bill and promised to use that funding, then flip flopped and now will use private financing for his campaign after the actual nomination. Broken promise=another lie by Bushama. Bushama is still playing the "Pay to Play" Chiago Politics.

Hillary supporters keep the pressure on Hillary to stay in the running till the convention, do not give up. Do not give Bushama your delegates.

Robert OKane at 1:17PM on Jul 11th 2008

7. 4. 1. So, you are acknowledging that Barack Obama and the other Democrats have no backbone?
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I would say so with the approval rating of Congress in the single digits.

Mosef at 11:52AM on Jul 11th 2008

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congress is deliberately gridlocked by republicans and they're on record with that as their stated objective.

To get a better assessment look at each representative or senator's popularity in their home state.

That will tell you who's coming back and who isn't.

Russ Feingold described the obama strategy adequately. Cenk notwithstanding, it's a political tactic and a damn good one.

Obama is indeed a very different type of candidate, and his so-called 'shift to center' is corporate media manufactured.

However to think that Obama can't play politics or won't is to underestimate his and his campaign's capacity. He comes from the best and toughest school in the US - the streets of Chicago.

Getting Fisa off the table until the first session of congress under Obama is an excellent strategy - mcsame has no fodder and a democratic congress will bring back the fourth amendment full strength.

So says Feingold and it makes excellent sense.

This is politics, but nowhere near as usual. What do the republicanists complain about?

They're losing.

Clif Kuplen at 1:18PM on Jul 11th 2008

8. I didn't get it out of my mouth good,,

Dems Getting Nervous About Drilling Bans

I couldn't post the link but this is under political machine blogs.

One issue that would have probably been welcomed by fellow democrats & Obama has painted himself into a corner with his theory of filling energy needs through excess taxation & locking horns with Wall Street.

For the record, I could care less how we currently lower oil pricing but I do realize that future demand will have to be met by exploration, not taxation.

Before this is all over you'll have two choices for president. A real republican & a wannabe....

Bobby at 1:53PM on Jul 11th 2008

9. Is Bushama slipping because of his constant flip flopping and his lies about FISA?

Rasmussen Poll shows Bushama lead in New Jersey in disappearing over the past month.

The two major presidential contenders has narrowed
to 5 percentage points in New Jersey, as some of Barack Obama’s support appears to have slipped off into the undecided column over the past month.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of New Jersey voters, taken Monday night, shows Obama ahead of Republican candidate John McCain 44% to 39%. Last month, the Democratic hopeful had a 48% to 39% lead over his GOP rival.

Of course this could all be part of a very smart plan on Bushama's part to confuse McCain.

Robert OKane at 1:55PM on Jul 11th 2008

10. Cenk

And today we are treated to the stunningly insipid spectacle of Pelosi considering impeachment hearings and Conyers talking about compelling Rove to testify, ostensibly to "protect the rule of law"

Any Dem that voted for this abomination- including 0bama - talking about the rule of law after their pathetic FISA capitulation probably has the Bush crime family and the repugs literally squealing with laughter.

buckygreen at 2:25PM on Jul 11th 2008

11. Obama is indeed a very different type of candidate, and his so-called 'shift to center' is corporate media manufactured.
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Explain? Without talking points or theory.

Mosef at 2:59PM on Jul 11th 2008

12. Explain? Without talking points or theory.

Mosef at 2:59PM on Jul 11th 2008

you have to find this yourself. His stance on fisa is explained by russ feingold. I already said that. Obama's interview with Ed Schultz fleshed that out more, but this is a political race so he's not going to be giving away strategy. It's all public record of the past week.

His stance on iraq is verbatim what it was in the pre primary debates. I saw videos establishing that.

He never made a commitment regarding funding of faith based charities before becoming the presumptive nominee so this is only being stated now. Clinton did it as well.

That's all I know about. Is there anything else?

Clif Kuplen at 3:07PM on Jul 11th 2008

13. oh, maybe you wanted an assessment of 'different' as well. Check this out:

He rose from an unknown in 2004 to the presumptive nominee of the party and he's up about 12% on the average over mcsame.

He did it without taking public funds after beating the Clinton machine. For all that, he still outmaneuvers traditional political strategists.

He's a democrat and his opponent is a neocon and despite how much some hate the word, a fascist in the tradition of Benito Mussolini and Ronald Regan and both bushes and even Prescott Bush. And the general manifesto of PNAC - that differs only in the lack of nationalism that fascists require.

This is quantifiable, not metaphor.

Clif Kuplen at 3:14PM on Jul 11th 2008

14. Again, this is why Obama is moving toward the center. It's all about gaining substance for his final thrust. He never had any core values, his campaign is a search for chemistry at all cost.
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True, he had no core values he made his rise with college kids and far lefties like this blogger. He was getting his ass handed to him the last 10 primaries after most dems figured out he was an empty suit. He is a media manufactured American Idol president that will win easily because of the current hatred for anything republican.Although it may be closer than people think.

Before this is over, you'll see him wiggling his position on energy when it comes down to being the most critical issue on the agenda. He'll sell you out on this as well.
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Of course he will, by August he will be wanting to drill off of Florida. I will be happy to bet money on it. Much to the denial of a few other posters on here Obama has shifted to the center and he has to. The far left gave him plenty of blog time and money but they can't get him in the white house and he knows it. He baited the code pinkers and Moveons about Iraq and now he changed his position, which has them pissing their pants(I know Clif according to you he didn't). He knows he can't go against a General saying and proving that the surge is working. He is also smart enough to realize that with new oil contracts in Iraq he won't be bringing the troops back anytime soon, Dems know that too.

Monty at 3:21PM on Jul 11th 2008

15. He's a democrat and his opponent is a neocon and despite how much some hate the word, a fascist in the tradition of Benito Mussolini and Ronald Regan and both bushes and even Prescott Bush. And the general manifesto of PNAC - that differs only in the lack of nationalism that fascists require.
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I asked you to explain not talking points or theory. Your typical old school liberal talking points with theory based accusations that always result in fascism. Nothing in your statement remotely answers how Obamas shift to center is "corporate media manufactured" it is just an empty theory you threw out there,Probably a swipe at Fox will be in the rebutal I am sure, but thanks for the attempt maybe it made you feel better. Sorry I wont be around to hear the paranoid old grumbling rebutal about neocons and fascists, that tirade is old and has been done to many times to merit a response. Seems to be an automated response from you.

Mosef at 3:33PM on Jul 11th 2008