You don't believe that tough, macho, war-hero John McCain can be scared of a little old librarian? Then watch this:
What I'm most concerned about is that we have started to accept these things as normal. As if we never had any rights in the first place. When we don't stand up for the Carol Krecks of the world, Dick Cheney wins. We have to guard our liberties jealously. Patriots died to get us those rights.
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UPDATE -- In the video above you see the security guard saying it was the Secret Service who asked Kreck to leave. The Secret Service vehemently denied they had anything to do with it today. Using the Secret Service name to do your dirty work -- classy!
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Reader Comments ( Page 1 of 11)
1. She didn't sign a loyalty oath. Everybody knows you have to sign a loyalty oath to get near Governor bush or Dead-Eye-Dick. McSame really does equal bush. Meet the new boss - same as the old boss.
And, "good work" officer. See you in court.
Captain Negative at 3:55AM on Jul 10th 2008
2. Cenk-
You scooped the whole nation on this story. You could win a Pulitzer Prize for this one.
Denver Newspaper also had story, which stated a few more facts than fat head.
This was a Private Hall and there were signs posted:
The rule was no signs
No signs no matter what they said. No pro-McCain no anti-McCain, no pro vegan, no pro beer, no signs
Um... Hooray for the idiots we've all become?
Yeah, I mean, there are subtle nuances here... not that rules were broken, as that's pretty obvious, but that the organization who sent this lady (and, evidently, others) weren't necessarily going there to show peaceful dissent and exercise their right to free speech (which I agree didn't actually exist, as they weren't on public property, but were on private property)
It was stated in a Denver newspaper that there no signs allowed... for anyone. They didn't ask her to leave point blank... they asked her to get rid of the sign. If she wanted to go in and ask McCain a question, or hear what he had to say and then leave after the fact and tell everyone who would listen what a dork she thought he was... they weren't stopping her from doing so. They wanted her to ditch $3 worth of cardboard and marker in an appropriate receptacle, or put it back in her car. It's not a terribly unreasonable request, especially if every damn soul going in had to adhere to it. They didn't tell her she wasn't allowed, or welcome to attend the event. Her inanimate object was not allowed.
I can not help but think that in some way, if she wanted to make a difference instead of just making a huge scene, she'd have ditched the stupid sign, gone in and heard him out, and then found a forum where she could say what she thought was in error, rationally, point by point, using the actual words McCain used as primary sources (primary sources! She's a librarian!) to support her McCain=Bush argument. Unfortunately, getting thrown out is a lot more romantic and dramatic than using the brain you have to ask the uncomfortable questions, come up with the answers or at least plausible solutions, and then tell your friends, family and community why you think the things you do, and why they should too.
So yeah, privately rented venue, and the people who were staging the... protest? Sign-in? were told in advance that they could not rent space, and they could not carry signs inside. (I'm impressed they were obviously allowed cameras.) They didn't say "Keep the hell out." The secret service guy wasn't particularly warm and cuddly or forthcoming... but you know what? Not a public venue, not her playground... He didn't have to be. He didn't seem like he was being a real jerk about it either. And the cop... I mean, aside from the fact he looked like he was about fourteen years old... was really quite pleasant and reasonable. Seeing that she was trespassing (hey, sorry) and that she was being argumentative about it (hey, sorry again, but it is possible to ask questions and leave without being quite so... eager to make a scene out of it), I think she got off pretty easily.
When rights are legitimately stepped on, we all need to make noise. But in this case, I think we sorta need to tell this lady and the attached organizations (on all sides) to really... pipe down. I sure as hell don't need or want to take her word on who to vote for if she can't understand the really simple alternative she was given, or why her rights weren't stepped on.
Rich at 5:00AM on Jul 10th 2008
3. I think she just missed the fun times she had doing much the same thing and getting much the same results in the '60s.
Speaking of that, isn't there some sort of group of old hippies planning to stage a reenactment of the infamous Chicago Democratic convention of '68?
That'll be quaint and nostalgic.
I can almost smell the BO and petuli oil just thinking about it.
Power to the People...Right Arm!
bob at 10:36AM on Jul 10th 2008
4. Good job Cenk, you're a sensationalist! Thanks for actually talking about something that matters like you usually don't. OH wait, this doesn't matter either.
And Air America? They're still on the air? ROFL
makilgore06 at 10:56AM on Jul 10th 2008
5. More stupid news from Cenk....the lady was not complying with the "no signs allowed" requirement in order to attend the event, so she decided to get her 15 minutes of fame by protesting....real impressive, Maam. This story reminds me of the Barack Obama event in Detroit a few weeks ago, where 2 Muslim women were not allowed in, because of their clothing......but no, that was a real story.
Cenk, you continue to establish your high journalistic credentials.....maybe you will get a job on MSNBC soon.
David Pitlock at 11:23AM on Jul 10th 2008
6. Here's some real news Cenk:
J. Jackson saying under his breath "I'm gonna cut his nuts off" in reference to Obama, a man of color because he's not coming off like Jackson's coalition wants him to.
Uncle Tom Obama has got to walk a pretty tight line to conform to the makeup of the "misfit party".
Seriously, if there's that type of off the record contempt for Obama within the strongest support of his party (blacks), what does that say about his true representation to ALL the people?
Where's the unity??
Bobby at 12:20PM on Jul 10th 2008
7. Just another Crazy Uncle? It has been widly reported that Michelle Obama practically grew up in Jesse Jacksons house,and is best friends with one of Jesse Jacksons daughters! Jesse Jr is one of Obamas campaign directors, and one of Jesse Jackson kids is one of Barack Obamas daughters god parents.Do not be so Niave people,This is the Politics of Chicago and the Politice of Obama!We are all aware that the Obama Campaign uses the race card anytime it is convenient for the Obama Campaign, as it usually always benefit's none other then the Obama campaign.This is just another example of another long time Obama cohort { Reverend Wright, Father Pfleger, and now Jesse Jackson } making racial statements to deflect attention away from a very problematic time in the Obama campaign. By Jesse Jackson taking this hit in the media,he is getting all the media's attention off of all the talk of Obama breaking his major campaign promises, in particular The FISA Bill, which Obama had promised his supporters that he would against and decided to vote for the FISA BILL.Yes he has broken another major campaign promise, and has had a very tough week or two, as he has been taking a lot of heat from the media, and even his own supporters. To "deflect" the attention away from Obamas political inexperience, and his FISA Vote yesterday, It is just a little to convenient for The Obama Campaign, headed by Jesse Jackson JR. by the way, that comments made by Jesse Jackson Sr. made Sunday suddenly broke yesterday.Just after Obamas key vote supporting President Bush's FISA Bill that had been threatening to break even Obamas staunchest of supporters. As of yesterday Obama was being criticized daily by media outlets and supporters alike, about the many flip flops made by the Candidate of Hope and Change, and now even Jesse Jr. came to Obamas defense "Ripping" Jesse Sr's words, thus successfully deflecting the media attention away from Obamas Hard move to the right! Well played Camp Obama. Now all the pundit's are talking about is Jesse Jackson not Barack Obama.This is not the Politics of Change, nor is it mere Politics as usual, This is the Politics of Obama. If anyone would like to see how deeply Jesse Jackson is planted in the Obama campaign, go to C-Span and watch the JUNE 29 TH Rainbow Coalition tapes, where you can watch Jesse Jackson and other African American leaders planning the first 30 day's of The Obama presidency.To bad that it has not been reported how Jesse Jackson Jr. has been treating any elected delegates that did not support Obama thru out this election season.
ERNIE at 12:31PM on Jul 10th 2008
8. Just another Crazy Uncle?It has been widly reported that Michelle Obama practically grew up in Jesse Jacksons house,and is best friends with one of Jesse Jacksons daughters! Jesse Jr is one of Obamas campaign directors, and one of Jesse Jackson kids is one of Barack Obamas daughters god parents.Do not be so Niave people,This is the Politics of Chicago and the Politice of Obama!We are all aware that the Obama Campaign uses the race card anytime it is convenient for the Obama Campaign, as it usually always benefit's none other then the Obama campaign.This is just another example of another long time Obama cohort { Reverend Wright, Father Pfleger, and now Jesse Jackson } making racial statements to deflect attention away from a very problematic time in the Obama campaign. By Jesse Jackson taking this hit in the media,he is getting all the media's attention off of all the talk of Obama breaking his major campaign promises, in particular The FISA Bill, which Obama had promised his supporters that he would against and decided to vote for the FISA BILL.Yes he has broken another major campaign promise, and has had a very tough week or two, as he has been taking a lot of heat from the media, and even his own supporters. To "deflect" the attention away from Obamas political inexperience, and his FISA Vote yesterday, It is just a little to convenient for The Obama Campaign, headed by Jesse Jackson JR. by the way, that comments made by Jesse Jackson Sr. made Sunday suddenly broke yesterday.Just after Obamas key vote supporting President Bush's FISA Bill that had been threatening to break even Obamas staunchest of supporters. As of yesterday Obama was being criticized daily by media outlets and supporters alike, about the many flip flops made by the Candidate of Hope and Change, and now even Jesse Jr. came to Obamas defense "Ripping" Jesse Sr's words, thus successfully deflecting the media attention away from Obamas Hard move to the right! Well played Camp Obama. Now all the pundit's are talking about is Jesse Jackson not Barack Obama.This is not the Politics of Change, nor is it mere Politics as usual, This is the Politics of Obama. If anyone would like to see how deeply Jesse Jackson is planted in the Obama campaign, go to C-Span and watch the JUNE 29 TH Rainbow Coalition tapes, where you can watch Jesse Jackson and other African American leaders planning the first 30 day's of The Obama presidency.To bad that it has not been reported how Jesse Jackson Jr. has been treating any elected delegates that did not support Obama thru out this election season.
ERNIE at 12:32PM on Jul 10th 2008
9. Cenk, you continue to establish your high journalistic credentials.....maybe you will get a job on MSNBC soon.
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I don't know I think this blog has more viewers than MSNBC. Although according to Clif, Olberman has more viewers than Fox and Oreilly.. Lol I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I read that comment.
Hey Cenk why are you so intimidated by McCain? What not enough confidence in the Messiah? I see Capt. is whining like a little woman as usual, so how much estrogen do you take? I know I know cuss me out you big bad keyboard sheman. Your like that person you never want to ask how they are doing. I'm out, go cuss out a neocon Clif and Capt whoahhh bad boys.
Johnny at 12:35PM on Jul 10th 2008
10. J. Jackson saying under his breath "I'm gonna cut his nuts off" in reference to Obama, a man of color because he's not coming off like Jackson's coalition wants him to.
xxxxxx
Thankfully it was a black democrat that said it. A white neocon and flyers would be falling from the sky.
Johnny at 12:39PM on Jul 10th 2008
11. Uncle Tom Obama has got to walk a pretty tight line to conform to the makeup of the "misfit party".
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Oh. The mulatto is uppity and doesn't know his place. You probably don't like his negress or his pickaninnies either, Right, Bwana?
Clif Kuplen at 12:44PM on Jul 10th 2008
12. This was a Private Hall and there were signs posted:
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According to local radio feeds, the property is partially funded by taxpayers. The event most certainly is since mccain takes taxpayer funds.
Colorado Revised Statutes recognizes two degrees of occupation of non-owned, leased or rented property.
You are either an invitee or a trespasser.
There is NO status of Licensee in colorado per appellate decision or higher.
Qualifying her as they did unlawfully constructs the status of licensee.
This is most likely why she was not charged with trespassing.
She was in fact not ticketed for any known violation. The charge was apparently gibberish - failure to 'cop', unknown, maybe cooperate.
Additionally, anything supporting mccain was allowed per photographic evidence. Additionally, her sign said mccain=bush. She was prosecuted for comparing a candidate to the outgoing president of the same party.
It's an obvious attempt to suppress free speech.
I'd say she might have an injury case against the republican party. I'd recommend an excellent constitutional litigator in boulder for any contemplated plaintiff action.
Clif Kuplen at 1:01PM on Jul 10th 2008
13. Although according to Clif, Olberman has more viewers than Fox and Oreilly.. Lol I nearly fell off my chair laughing when I read that comment.
xxx
KO announces proudly when he beats BO, which is frequently. His demo is weird anyway - I've heard several places that most of BO's listeners are around seventy.
It's fun to see what a thorn in the side to fox and murdoch KO has become. BO can't mention KO without goosing KO's ratings so he Must Not Speak The Forbidden Name - murdoch won't let him.
BO then 'invades iraq' by going after nbc and ge. He has of course no effect but positive on NBC as a whole, or they'd gag KO.
So NBC and KO profit, BO stinks, fox shrinks and BO's still just a clerk in rupert murdoch's fascism for hindbrains store. Don't miss next week's exciting episode!
Clif Kuplen at 1:17PM on Jul 10th 2008
14. "Uncle Tom Obama has got to walk a pretty tight line to conform to the makeup of the "misfit party."
That line is far less tight than the one that John McSame has to walk in order to keep the religous troglodtyes of the right on board.
randy at 1:23PM on Jul 10th 2008
15. McBush McSame 100yr WAR McCain is staying true to The Bush code of controlling your audience no dissenters is being played out again. Take questions only from folks who are "planted" in the audience. Only allow reporters near who have "earned" the right to get near the candidate so that means only FOX (Fixed) News reporters allowed. How much more like Bush can McCain get. NO NO McBush McSame 100yr WAR McCain no Country for you Warmongering angry old man
Kee at 1:32PM on Jul 10th 2008