My Las Vegas debate with Christopher Hitchens continues to attract attention and comment. If you'd like to read an account of the debate, you can do so here.
Also on Monday July 21, at 4.30 pm Eastern time, I'll be debating Richard Dawkins (yes, Richard Dawkins!) on Al-Jazeera (yes, that Al-Jazeera). This is a noteworthy development because Dawkins has so far refused to debate me. But now we're appearing together on the Riz Khan television show, which I understand has some 25 million viewers worldwide. If you want to watch Monday's debate live you can watch it here. The segment will also be posed on the web and I will link to it on this blog.
I also hope that, upon seeing for himself that I am not a Hitlerite kind of speaker, Dawkins will summon up the courage to step into the public arena with me. Like one of the atheist commenters recently said on Dawkins's own website: all the best spokesmen for unbelief have gotten a whipping from this D'Souza guy and it's now up to Dawkins to try and redeem the reputation of atheism.
Given that my thoughts are currently focused on how to deal with Dawkins, I'm going to post here on a question that seems to mystify him and many other scientific atheists. These fellows wonder: if there is reasonably good evidence for evolution--as, by the way, both Dawkins and I believe there is--why do around 50 percent of Americans refuse to accept it? The conventional wisdom among Dawkins and others is that Americans oppose evolution because they are religiously committed to a literal reading of the Book of Genesis.
But there is a much better explanation of why Americans reject evolution: the idiotic claims of leading champions of evolution who are promoting an atheist agenda. Consider Dawkins himself, rebutting the claim that there are significant "gaps" in the fossil record. Dawkins concedes that there are such gaps, but then writes this: "The gaps, far from being anoying imperfections or awkward embarrassments, turn out to be exactly what we should positively expect."
In other words, the absence of evidence for evolution is itself proof that the theory is correct! This is so bizarre that it makes one wonder what the presence of evidence might do to this theory. Would a complete fossil record without gaps be evidence against Darwinian evolution, as we hear that Dawkins and his fellow biologists "exactly" and "positively" expect that such evidence should not be present?
Dawkins finally puts his cards on the table by saying of evolution: "Even if the evidence did not favor it, it would still be the best theory available." And if Dawkins is dismissed as a crank, here is Harvard cognitive psychologist Steven Pinker making the same point. "Because there are no alternatives, we would almost have to accept natural selection as the explanation of life on this planet even if there were no evidence for it."
We have here the weird spectacle of so-called scientists who are so wedded to a theory that they cannot even imagine it not to be true. This is a level of dogmatism that would embarrass any theist. Even the strongest religious believer can imagine the possibility that there is no God. So how can these self-styled champions of reason adopt so closed-minded an approach?
The short answer is given by Harvard biologist Richard Lewontin, who in a 1997 essay in the New York Review of Books makes a revealing admission: "We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant proises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment--a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation for the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori commitment to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, the materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door."
And you thought I was making this stuff up! No wonder Americans are skeptical of these apostles of skepticism. They are peddling their own metaphysical dogmas in the name of science, even though few are as honest as Lewontin in admitting it.



Reader Comments ( Page 40 of 40)
586. preteristvision AND Renzo,
Both of you have presented your arguments for faith with courage, commitment, candor, competence and integrity (the 5 character traits of professionalism). I have enjoyed reading your posts and I hope that there will be more... (But believe me, I do realize that patience in dealing with the invincibly obstinate may have its limits!!!)
Respectfully,
ManOfMettl at 6:32PM on Jul 23rd 2008
587. The first person to start a religion was an atheist. You should thank us.
a born atheist at 6:42PM on Jul 23rd 2008
588. ManofMettl: I hope that there will be more... (But believe me, I do realize that patience in dealing with the invincibly obstinate may have its limits!!!)
PV: We're all just having fun hanging out, ManofMettl. Glad you're here to join in!
All the best,
preteristvision at 11:01PM on Jul 23rd 2008
589. PV: "Our dynastic united tradition that in 20 centuries has exerted more influence on the world than any other organization?"
NOT PROOF OR EVIDENCE OF GOD. ONLY EVIDENCE OF MASS DELUSION OF FAITH FREAKS.
Peter at 5:16PM on Jul 27th 2008
590. "PV: The Catholic Church built Western Civilization. We've had more to do with the development of science, hospitals, the arts, the university system, and law than any other single institution on the planet. We are the longest-lasting government, the largest corporation, the most influential political force, and the loudest voice of ethics of the past twenty centuries."
Don't forget the most murderous organization of evil vile people that the world has ever seen.
Peter at 5:22PM on Jul 27th 2008
591. PV: "PV: You're a silly guy, Ryan. You can't handle the truth that the Catholics are the top dog in the world. No other institution on earth has as many members, as long of a history, as much influence, as much money, and as bright a future. Not Microsoft. Not Warren Buffet. Not the United States. Not Google. Not Iran. Not anyone."
SO WHAT?
PV: "There's your objective reality."
In objective reality there are humans that "believe" with faith in mythical gods and those that don't. Numbers of believers don't tell you that your mythical god exists, only that faith freaks ignore reality.
PV: "We must be doing something right."
You know how to CON people. You're crooks and murders of the worst kind. The POPE is one of the most evil and vile people (and offices) on the planet.
Subverting people with religious nonsense is a crime against humanity. Arrest the Pope and put him and the catholic church on trial for murder and crimes against humanity.
Peter at 5:29PM on Jul 27th 2008
592. The Catholic Church sucks up to Hitler.
http://truereligiondebate.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/christian_hitler.jpg
Watch this to see some of the modern crimes of the Catholic (and other) Churches.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-6637396204037343133&q=UNREPENTANT%3A+Kevin+Annett+and+Canada%27s+Genocide&ei=3U5XSKvnOYjkqgPb2KTgDg&hl=en
Just TWO crimes of the Catholic Church. There are many more. Way too many.
Peter at 5:33PM on Jul 27th 2008
593. Catholic Bishops Salute Hitler.
http://truereligiondebate.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/bishops_salute_hitler.jpg
Unpunished CRIMES of the CHURCH.
Peter at 5:35PM on Jul 27th 2008
594. My sister doesn't talk to me anymore - the best thing that declaring myself an nonbeliever could have ever done for me - why didn't I do it years ago? What was I afraid of?
Peace, blessed peace has infused itself into my body, my limbs, my hands, my feet and I smell better too.
TJ at 11:28AM on Aug 20th 2008