Dear Richard,
We're both scheduled to discuss issues of Darwin and God on the Riz Khan Show on Al-Jazeera on Monday, July 21. Viewers who are interested can watch the show live here. The segments will also be posted on Youtube and I'll link to them.
But a few hours after I mentioned our forthcoming debate on this blog, you posted a comment on your website essentially accusing me of making the whole thing up. So first you accuse me of having a Hitler voice, and now you accuse me of misrepresentation.
Here's what happened. Al-Jazeera contacted me a while ago, asking me to appear in a point-counterpoint format with a leading opponent. I said I was writing about God and atheism, and suggested I appear with a prominent atheist. They chose you. Then the producer Zeresnaey Abraha confirmed that you were ready to do it. Late last week I got a studio notice from Al-Jazeera giving me the time for me to arrive at their rented San Diego studio. The other guest was listed as "Richard Dawkins" and your studio details at Oxford were given.
Apparently when you found out that the two of us were booked on the same show, same segment, you rushed to the producer to insist that we appear separately. Your pretext according to Abraha was that you have a long-standing pledge not to debate "creationists." I can understand that you don't want to give legitimacy to people who flatly deny evolution or who insist that the earth is less than 6,000 years old. The only problem with you invoking this pledge is that I believe in evolution and am not, nor have I ever been, a "creationist."
Apparently the format now is that we will each be interviewed separately. So technically it's no longer a debate, although it is most certainly an exchange of rival ideas on the same topic. It's a pity that we cannot engage each other directly.
To be honest, I find your behavior extremely bizarre. You go halfway around the world to chase down televangelists to outsmart them in an interview format that you control, but given several opportunities to engage the issues you profess to care about in a true spirit of open debate and inquiry, you duck and dodge and run away.
If we debate on the Riz Khan show, a format comparable to ABC "Nightline," you cannot seriously think I will drown you out with Hitler shouts. And if I tried that in an academic setting I would make a complete fool of myself. I have done several debates with your fellow atheists Michael Shermer and Christopher Hitchens (and have just scheduled my second debate this fall with Peter Singer) because all of them have consistently found me a serious and worthy opponent. Hitchens told me in Las Vegas that each time our debates are different because both of us adjust to what the other guy said the last time around. This is how knowledge is tested, through the process of critical exchange, isn't it?
You are supposed to be the public champion of science and reason and enlightened discourse. This is basically what your title at Oxford says, right? This is why the Microsoft billionaire Charles Simonyi is paying your salary, isn't it? So are we to believe that despite the seriousness of the issues involved, issues that engage your whole life's work, you won't even stand up and defend your views even in a hospitable setting like Oxford or any other venue of your choice?
Many years ago I read The Selfish Gene and was deeply impressed. What especially struck me was your intellectual audacity, your willingness to jump into a big debate and take on the big questions, and of course your literary eloquence. If you are so confident that your position is right, and that belief in God is an obvious delusion, surely you should be willing to vindicate that position not only against Bible-toting pastors but also against a fellow scholar and informed critic like me!
If not, you are nothing but a showman who takes on unprepared and unsuspecting opponents when you yourself control the editing, but when a strong opponent shows up you manufacture reasons to avoid him. Somehow, I would have thought the author of 'The Selfish Gene would be made of sterner stuff. .



Reader Comments ( Page 4 of 26)
46. Frankly, DD does NOT routinely debate existence of God, evolution vs. creationism or ID, etc. What he does debate is the impact of religion on society, and Dawkins wants no part of this. DD has a theory without a valid hypothesis, and is completely unscientific in his approach. Religion has had such a strong powerhold on society throughout centuries of history, therefore debate is pointless.
Linda at 9:30AM on Jul 21st 2008
47. Sorry, last sentence grammatically sucked.
Linda at 9:31AM on Jul 21st 2008
48. Hey brother D'inesh, I see that the comments are down on your blog, maybe you should give up trying to insite anger and work on a more convincing way to dish up the christianity on a better platter. Without blowing hot air on ANYONE else. Convince us that there is a 'god'...any god...good or evil, for any religion..then we might start caring about your blog again.
emanon at 9:33AM on Jul 21st 2008
49. Rev, maybe you'll be better tolerated in a blog where people haven't yet learned how much of a bigot you are. Then go to another blog 5 minutes later, after your cover is blown again by your blatant ignorance.
Mokele Mbembe at 9:38AM on Jul 21st 2008
50.
Sorry, last sentence grammatically sucked.
Linda at 9:31AM on Jul 21st 2008
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Think where you are Linda.
Does a little grammatical error count when faced with DD's stupidity?
mac at 9:40AM on Jul 21st 2008
51. Atheists....bad..again...(yaaaaaawwwwnnnn )
DAN K at 9:40AM on Jul 21st 2008
52. Did Mann Coulter really bang this zero?
DAN K at 9:43AM on Jul 21st 2008
53.
Any time you want to jump on in, Dinesh, just feel free. No, we don't have any Oxford titles, or billionaire sponsors, it's just little old us.
If you think your opinion or arguments are any stronger because of a title, I guess you aren't any different than the god ordained monarchs.
"I have a peice of paper that say's I'm superior."
And you arseholes talk crap about Obama being an "elitist".....
ex-christian at 9:44AM on Jul 21st 2008
54. There is no debate about the fact that Dinny is is a one-trick pony that can only bray one boring note.
dan k at 9:46AM on Jul 21st 2008
55.
This is crap!
Dinesh is sliding as bad as Ben Greenman...or me.
mac at 9:46AM on Jul 21st 2008
56. Is there any drivel more pointless than constantly insisting that anyone not indoctrinated to suit you is bad, and anyone bored of countering your lame arguments is afraid?
dan k at 9:49AM on Jul 21st 2008
57.
I just can't get the image of Homer Simpson, in a Gonesh costume, screaming "fear me!" at Apu's wedding guests out of my head...
ex-christian at 9:53AM on Jul 21st 2008
58. Dinny is irrelevant. Hassling people who don't buy into organized religion is anti-freeom, and very muslim-like.
Dinny must get tired of trying to rehash the same crap every week to sell his idiotic books to the slobbering rubes.
dan k at 9:59AM on Jul 21st 2008
59.
Well, I can't just invite you in, Dinesh, without something to talk about, so here's a little something to talk about -
Are rulers of nations really "ordained" by god? The aristocracies of England, France, Spain, Germany, and Austria. How many times have these nations fought each other?
Also, many of these so called leaders would make George Bush look smart. Would god really endanger millions by giving executive power to a murderous, exansionist sychophantic sociopath?
Or is it conditioned control?
ex-christian at 10:06AM on Jul 21st 2008
60.
Another topic for discussion:
The pope recently told the young to "spurn materialism".
So, why does he bless Ferrari's, and wear shoes that could feed an African village for a year?
Why does he not berate the makers of the symbols he wishes his followers to reject, rather than accepting lavish gifts?
Why hasn't he emptied the coffers of the vatican to compensate the victims of knowing, hidden abuse?
"Uh, well, we did know about it, and we shuffled people around to hide it, but now that everybody knows about it, Gosh, we're sorry."
Would someone like to discuss the "moral superiority" displayed here?
ex-christian at 10:26AM on Jul 21st 2008