46. Janesophie - abortion providers ARE licensed doctors! Outlawing abortion would drive it underground, forcing women back to the days of filthy back alley butchers. Might I remind you that Planned Parenthood provides more than safe legal abortions? They also provide gynecological exams on a sliding scale for poor women; providing pap smears and all those things most middle class women take for granted! I agree that birth control and abstinence are the best solution to abortion; I wish abortion was rare, but I cannot change human behavior and
neither can you. And there are a few pro=life Democrats; most are in conservative districts and states. Sen. Ben Nelson (D) Nebraska votes pretty much pro=life; granted he is in a conservative state, so he has little choice. But I have yet to hear you tell me one elected Republican who has called abortion murder and called for the criminalizing of it. Bush himself has called for no such thing (and you don't get much more conservative than him) - he allows abortion in certain circumstances and says so.

David S. at 5:11PM on Aug 7th 2008

47. Abortion is murder!

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that makes you an accessory after the fact. If abortion is murder, so is conception or ovulation. No doctor would agree with that and certainly no politician would say such a thing.

You own your shame here. Don't look anywhere else but in the mirror. This has nothing to do with 'murder' but your need to control. Proof? Simple.

You know you think I'm a piece of shit compared t you, but I would never in my life associate with much less be friends with a murderer. Do you think I'm crazy?

Clif Kuplen at 6:07PM on Aug 7th 2008

48. 39. Once again, Cliff is shamelessly foisting the same old, recycled, cut and paste translation guide nonsense otherwise known as "You may be a Klansman and not know it".

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oh, I'm sure you know it.

Energy plan, squidbilly, try to focus. It's about BARACK OBAMA, not me.

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40. Cliff, you apparently grew up in the South and heard lots of racist talk and it made you mad? Good. Get mad at your own party, because that's where most of the bigots reside.

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I'm a democrat.

In 1964, when I was in college in L.A. we passed the Civil Rights Act that emptied the Democratic party of the Dixiecrats. They migrated en masse to the Republicans.

That must have been long before your time, though.

People were smarter then and better informed. Trust me.

Apparently you aren't smart enough to comment on OBAMA'S ENERGY PLAN. Right, squidbilly?

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He didn't grow up in the south he is just a "white guilt liberal".

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Oh, more Newspeak!

They used to call me the old one too.

nigger lover.

The idea of white guilt would require that I be someone as stupid as you.

Why in a million years would I accept responsibility to any black or other man or woman for a piece of crud like you?

I sure as hell didn't raise you and I've been pleased to wipe up a parking lot here and there with a few of your faces.

It was a pleasure meting out impromptu justice when confronted by someone who wanted to rob my band's money and I feel no guilt at all.

You make your choices, you'll live with their consequences, squidbilly. Unless you think you're Bruce Lee, you'd be well advised to let that shit fester inside until you stroke out or get cancer.

So, energy plan. You capable of anything but ankle biting?

Man there are enough crudites and crackers here for a French Appetizer plate and enough anklebiting to throw in a pack o' poodles. Mention issue to any of you and you'll think somebody sneezed.

Clif Kuplen at 6:33PM on Aug 7th 2008

49. "...how many pro-Life Democrats can you name?"
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As David S indicated, there are a few. One is Senator Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, my current state of residence. Another off the top of my head is congressmen Tim Ryan of Ohio.

As a progressive Christian who usually votes Democrat, I happen to agree with your stance on abortion. I don't believe that it is murder because I don't believe that life starts at conception, but I do believe that it is generally demeaning and hurtful to women.

I would take your musings on abortion a lot more seriously, if I were convinced that they were grounded in a geniune concern for human life in opposition to all that dehumanizes and degrades. When pope John Paul II talked about abortion, he situated it within what he called a "culture of death" that manifested itself in many dehumanizing ways: war, economic and political exploitation, racial and gender discrimination, ecological destruction and rampant economic forces that subordinate human life to the quest for greed.

I don't know you, but I get the sense that you don't grapple or care about any of that. It's as if you believe that abortion is the only evil and the rest of God's suffering creation can be damned.

randy at 6:37PM on Aug 7th 2008

50. randy.

I care about all life issues, but abortion is top priority. It is the murder of unborn children and as the Catholic Church has stated, "no one could be more innocent". If we as a society cannot protect children in the womb then we will never be able to fully address the other Pro-Life issues. As far as Democrats, there may be a few courageous enough to be Pro-Life, but the Democratic Party will never have a Pro-Life candidate. People choose where they stand on this issue based on their own relationship with God. Me, I am committed to the Pro-Life cause. Abortion is Evil and it is Murder. If that offends; so be it. As far as Clif Kuplen and David S, they are free to continue to believe the Pro-Abortion propaganda; I know the truth. I am involved in Project Rachel, Silent No More, National Right to Life, Georgia Right to Life, African-Americans for Life, and many other Pro-Life organizations. I have seen the devastation of abortion on women, spouses, parents, grand-parents, etc. It is a generational wound that affects everyone; most of all it degrades our society making us callous to human suffering everywhere. God bless!

janesophie1 at 8:49AM on Aug 8th 2008

51. I sure as hell didn't raise you and I've been pleased to wipe up a parking lot here and there with a few of your faces.
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So along with being sub genius you are now a bonified AOL bad ass huh? Let me guess a couple of lessons of "martial arts" and you can kick everyones ass..I used to throughly enjoy hurting your "art" pride with a quick one two, while your backing up trying to get enough board breaking room to do a damn daniel son kick. Its called boxing but it sounds much better to say "martial arts" right? Makes your ego even bigger to strut around in your little white uniform with a different colored belt every month for breaking a board. Probally wore it to all of your parking lot ass kicking rallys to huh? I know your best days are over but you would still give me a run for my money right? No worries my dick is big enough I don't have to "embelish" my endevours nor make my 1 pound fish into a 12 pounder,to seem more significant to the big world of AOL. Yes I remember "your faces" too look at me I am sticking up for the "nigger" give me a damn break Clif what did you spend your life wishing you could be a minority? Just a martar for the cause right, hero for the oppressed. So you feel ever so comfortable saying "your faces" and "your kind" as long as you aren't saying it to a black person.

James at 9:35AM on Aug 8th 2008

52. "that makes you an accessory after the fact. If abortion is murder, so is conception or ovulation--
Do you think I'm crazy?

Clif Kuplen at 6:07PM on Aug 7th 2008"

Clif, crazy quite possibly. Stupid definitely.
Now, you just might be able to get away with it in a court of law if you said copulation.
Think about it.

Nina at 9:52AM on Aug 8th 2008

53. Well, Janesophie, until I hear elected Republicans pounding the podium calling for the criminalizaton of abortion and women to be hauled out in front of judges and jailed, I won't worry about abortion staying legal. Democrats AND Republicans will see to it it does stay legal. GOP'ers care far more about their power in Washington than they do about outlawing abortion, which they know would be political suicide for them. That much we all know.

David S. at 9:51PM on Aug 8th 2008

54. How is John Edwards' Affair Any Different than John McCain's?

Posted Aug 8th 2008 4:57PM by Cenk Uygur
Filed under: Scandal, Young Turks, John McCain, John Edwards
John McCain had a well-documented series of affairs on his first wife after he came back from the war. She had been severely injured in a car accident and after cheating on her several times with several different women, John McCain eventually left her for a much younger, much richer woman.

Now, it seems like I am condemning John McCain for his actions, but actually I'm not. I wasn't in his situation and no one really knows what happens inside someone else's marriage. I think the personal lives of politicians are absolutely irrelevant, especially their sex lives.

So, I say this not to rub this in John McCain's face, but to defend John Edwards. Now that Edwards has admitted to an extramarital affair, everyone will now condemn him and say he has no political career left. I want to ask all of those people, how is Edwards' affair any different John McCain's? If Edwards is disqualified from running for office because of this, isn't McCain as well?

iynaroc02 at 4:41PM on Aug 11th 2008

55. I don't use the term "uppity," but Obama, like most liberals, has a very superior attitude towards anybody who disagrees with him. VERY superior. We have the proof in well-known gaffes like his "clinging to guns and religion" type of statements.

Typically, this AOL.com blog is an exception, in that it is usually not screening out comments that disagree with the main blogger. At most sites run by liberals, all dissent is squashed and censored into non-existence, leaving only a scary groupthink of liberal values in the section for comments from the general public.

I may disagree with the Young Turk, or Ada Calhoun, and I see the majority of comments left for Dinesh D'Souza are overwhelmingly in disagreement with Dinesh, but at least everybody is allowed to post a comment, agree or disagree, and not be so readily censored and silenced in the first place, as the 1st Amendment prescribes for us, Freedom of Speech.

Rev 3:16 at 8:59AM on Aug 12th 2008