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McCain: Straight Talker or Serial Liar?
John McCain, who was skewered by nearly all commentators for his dogged twisting of what Romney really said about the surge, the same weekend flatly denied a report by John Fund at WSJ that he had criticized Alito while praising Roberts in a discussion with Republican lawyers nine months ago. He lied about it initially on the eve of the Florida primary, so emphatically that many of his critics took the denial at face value.Did he think that no one else in the room would report the conversation? Apparently, it was such a stunning moment that one witness described "jaws dropping" around the room. Robert Novak now has two sources who did not know the other was talking to him that were at the same meeting and return the same report. Neither was John Fund's source. John McCain did make the comment, and now is lying about it. Thus, in last night's debate, he went out of his way to point to Roberts and Alito as the type of judges he would appoint.
Does anyone wonder why the GOP base remains distant and skeptical? And does anyone think such a gulf of distrust can be bridged in time to avert a massive turnout failure in November?
Aside from the obvious character problem of lying to you about something you are sure to be caught on, I'm more troubled by the probability that this means he would gladly appoint another David Souter to the court. At this point, I see only two reasons to support McCain in November -- the court and the war. He just took the first off the table. The second is looking pretty lonely about now.
UPDATE: I highly recommend the Powerline dialogue currently underway. Paul and Scott both find McCain's behavior reprehensible. John agrees in theory, but also argues that the ability to knee an opponent in the groin on the bottom on a scrum is the mark of a good politician. Either way, McCain does not come off as very honorable or likable, and win or lose is unlike to ever engender affection.
Here is an excerpt from Novak's report:
"In fact, multiple sources confirm that the senator made negative comments about Alito nine months ago. ...
"I found what McCain could not remember: a private, informal chat with conservative Republican lawyers shortly after he announced his candidacy in April 2007. I talked to two lawyers who were present whom I have known for years and who have never misled me. One is neutral in the presidential race, and the other recently endorsed Mitt Romney. Both said they were not Fund's source, and neither knew I was talking to the other. They gave me nearly identical accounts, as follows:"'Wouldn't it be great if you get a chance to name somebody like Roberts and Alito?' one lawyer commented. McCain replied, 'Well, certainly Roberts.' Jaws were described as dropping. My sources cannot remember exactly what McCain said next, but their recollection is that he described Alito as too conservative."
Recent Comments
(Page 1 of 12)Vet 853:21PMJan 31st 2008
This should be of no surprise for a Washington insider, it is part of how he is able to reach across the aisle.
He keeps hitting Romney about buying the election, but he is twisting the meaning of that original phrase. It means using unethical influence or power to buy something. Romney is not buying an election, he is buying time, ads, et. to get his points across to the voters. McCain is actually in the better position to "buy" the election, and has shown he is willing to do it, by calling in favors he has bought from his political cohorts and lobbyists.
David Steffem3:49PMJan 31st 2008
Your point about McCain's statements are well taken, although the base of the GOP has doubts about McCain and Romney.
As to Alito, McCain did vote to confirm him. Not sure what his comments are all about.
Floyd3:52PMJan 31st 2008
McCain is a mean-spirited liar. His greatest skill seems to be in avoiding direct answers to questions put before him. I don't get what the govenors in Fla. and Calif see in this guy. McCain must have promised them some substantial "earmarks" if he pulls this off. Romney is a class act and more importantly, the man we need to get the job done.
Lynn3:52PMJan 31st 2008
SERIAL LIAR!!!!! He is almost as liberal as the Democrats. Mitt Romney is the only true Conservative.If you dont want to see our country with an open invitation for people to just waltz in then i suggest you seriously think about who you are voting for.Huckabee,Mccain,Obama and Hilary are all Liberal just some more than others.Ron Paul voters should go in Mitts direction which is the right direction for our future.
Lynn3:53PMJan 31st 2008
Today La Raza (The Race), the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center), the ADL (Anti Defamation League), Center for American Progress, Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, Media Matters for America (George Soros group), and MALDEF (Mexican American Legal Defense Fund) have unleashed a coordinated multimillion dollar public relations attack on most of the leaders and groups in our movement as well as Lou Dobbs, Glenn Beck, Michelle Malkin, and Pat Buchannan.
Their overt plan is clear. They want to smear and silence all of us. We will answer their attack in one week. We will provide you with more info about this LATER!
Their secondary strategy may not be as clear. They know that our movement is very reactionary and that you are likely to respond to threats such as the stimulus check plan and their campaign.
DO NOT LET ANYTHING DISTRACT YOU FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGNS BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK ON SUPER TUESDAY.
We must keep our movement, our organizations, and our activists focused on bringing down McCain and his new ally Mike Huckabee.
It is clear that Huckabee has no chance of winning the nomination, but most analysts agree he can pull votes from Romney and Paul, due to his pretenses involving illegal immigration.
We need everyone working to warn American voters about McCain and Huckabee. There is still a chance they can be stopped.
Mitt Romney and Ron Paul are the only two candidates that remain on ALIPAC's "No Amnesty" list. We are doing all we can to respect our supporters who are divided between these campaigns and we ask everyone to maintain maximum respect for each other.
Our goal is to get as much information about McCain's outlandish and deplorable pro-amnesty immigration stances out to the voters by Tuesday of next week.
Next Tuesday is "Super Tuesday", when many states vote at once and the victors of the primaries will be decided.
If all Americans knew what we know about McCain, he would not be winning and would be unable to show his face in public!
We hope to issue you an abbreviated talking point list tomorrow to help you.
In the meantime, please check our homepage regularly as we collect and post the most important information about McCain's negative stance on immigration for you.
We need you to take this information and share it with EVERYONE you know including old classmates, friends, family members, acquaintances, etc...
We need you to call in on CSPAN and every talk radio show you can to get the word out about McCain. We need you to craft letters to the editor, in the hopes of getting them printed before people vote next Tuesday.
Our allies in the media and on talk radio are all focusing their attentions on McCain and Huckster. Even Rush Limbaugh has stated that either of these candidates winning the GOP nomination will likely destroy the Republican Party.
The objectives of our opposition are clear.
They want to assure that our choices in November are McCain and Clinton. They are about to spend millions of dollars smearing anyone that stands up against illegal immigration by attempting to falsely discredit them as a racist xenophobe nativists who are spreading false information. They want to silence those of us who speak out. They want to distract our attention, during a critical time in the elections.
Let's keep all eyes focused on blasting the McCain record and his Mexican con man Juan Hernandez.
We are in a hell of a fight! Call the Presidential campaign of your choice, send them a check, get their yard signs, volunteer on the campaigns, warn your folks, get on the airwaves to spread the word, get our people to the polls!
Rally our troops to action! Stand together and stand fast! Despite our disagreements on candidates and other small details, remember that we are all standing up for the same thing!
Jason3:54PMJan 31st 2008
HUGE NUMBERS OF EVANGELICAL CHRISTIANS ARE RALLYING FOR ROMNEY RATHER THAN HUCKABEE OR MCCAIN.
SEE WHY:
WWW.EVANGELICALSFORMITT.ORG
1-4-Romney3:54PMJan 31st 2008
Last night McCain continued to LIE about what Romney said & use half of a quote. The full quote contained a question that debunks McCains entire assertion. Romney was asked if he got a timetable for withdraw bill on his desk, as president ,what would he do? He SAID, VETO IT>!
McCain says he voted for tax cuts twice. YET his factual & documented record shows he voted AGAINST TAX CUTS TWICE.
McCain charged Romney with not taking a stand on the surge & touted he put his own career on the line. Well how do you put your career on the line by doing what the VOTERS ELECTED YOU TO DO? Mc/Kennedy is what put his career on the line. McCain was privy to classified documents about the war, briefed on specific stats and military strategy, & had a vote on the matter, etc…. Romney as a Gov was not privy to this info, had no voice or vote, etc.
McCain was confronted with the reasons he voted against the Bush tax cuts. He said then it was because of the “rich people” ….now he uses spending cuts as an excuse.
McCain refused to answer the question related to amnesty. He was asked point blank again & again if he would continue to support amnesty. He only says he gets that we want to secure the boarder first. WELL WRONG. WE want the boarder secure but WE STILL DO NOT WANT ANY FORM OF AMNESTY DEFACTO OR NOT. I will bet my life that if he becomes president AMNESTY WILL happen.
I did not catch the lie Eric pointed out, but Lord how many lies can the guy tell in two hours
These are just the lies he told last night. But…..those that only watch the debates or just listen to what the candidates say & do not fact check just have no idea just who they are voting for.
Eric,
10 bucks says in the next few days “republican political figures” wink wink…will be calling for Romney to step aside to “unite the party” so we can defeat the Dems. As if liberal “rep politicians” like Gov Arnold S.- who wants to reach into homes and control what people set their air on- know anything about uniting the GOP!
1-4-Romney4:01PMJan 31st 2008
http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Gage_Memo_1.31
look @this chart &see why Mc won Florida.
Lynn4:05PMJan 31st 2008
Voting for Huckabee or Ron Paul is throwing your vote at Mccain.That is what Mccain wants...So if you know anything about these candidates please vote for Mitt Romney.The only reason Huckabee is staying in is for Mccain so just know who you are voting for if you vote in his direction.The vote is going toward Mccain!!!!!!!Its a scam!!!!
intouchwreality4:12PMJan 31st 2008
Do we want the VP to run the country?
The Life Expectancy of American White Males is 75 years.
McCain is 71 years. Too close for comfort.
A Good Economy = The Bill Clinton Era.
I vote either party but this time I have to vote for Hillary.
She has the most experience and resources at her fingertips to make the world better.
She will work hard for us and she cares.
We need relief
Mary Conway4:18PMJan 31st 2008
Both McCain and Romney have sought to buy the election. When you take money from special interest groups, the presidency gets sold to the highest bidder. The only honest one in the bunch is Ron Paul. He's never taken so much as a penny from any special interest or lobby.
1-4-Romney4:29PMJan 31st 2008
Mary Conway,
No Ron Paul just takes money from hookers & skin heads....so that makes him A-OKAY, right?
Pjayee4:35PMJan 31st 2008
I see the republicans are no better off than us Democrates. I would vote for Huckabee if I was Rep. just checking to see how the other side is doing.
Molly4:36PMJan 31st 2008
McCain is not just a liar, he is a Republican in Name Only and if he wins the nomination, I will not vote for him. Romney was the best choice for conservatives and if the party could not give me a conservative and leaves Gomer Pile in the race to divide the conservative vote, then they can have Hilary.Good Bye Stock market, good bye economy. If they wanted a liberal, now they can have a true liberal because I will not vote for McCain because the only good issue he has is the war.
Molly4:36PMJan 31st 2008
Oh and I am going to listen to Arnold? Give me a break! That guy doesn't know what a Republican is, he drank his wife's bathwater and turned liberal. Please. I have always voted for a Republican but if this party fails to deliver a reasonable conservative candidate like Romney, they can have Hilary. McCain is going to push amnesty with the liberals. I have never voted for a liberal and I am not starting now, so if the Republican party doesn't help Romney, then they can live with Hilary. Yes, I agree with everyone who posted that Huckleberry is dividing the vote and if conservatives don't want a liberal getting into office and not renewing the tax relief and letting terrorists into our court system, and giving amnesty to the illegals and inviting more to come until our economy can't support them, then vote for Huck because taht is a vote for McCain. Conservatives, we must unite I will not vote for a liberal and call him a conservative. It is time for this party to come back to its base and losing to Hilary is just the right medicine unless they turn this train wreck around! Go Mitt, bring us back to real conservative ideas!
ruthe4:47PMJan 31st 2008
he's a grey old man grey face grey hair talks old walks old hillbilly is a sleaz the only one ready for the white house is obama if hill or McCain wins i move to europe
Carole4:50PMJan 31st 2008
McCAin is an arrogant, liar who respresents the facts, takes quotes out of context and who's answer to every question posed is that he is committed to "destroy Islamic extremists." He has NO CLUE as to the economy and his pledge to continue spending 9 billion dollars a month on an illegal invasion we cannot win is absurd. In last night's debate, he stated that the American people are "better off now than they were 8 years ago." I don't know which American people he means. Nobody I know is better off now.
Suzanne Neal4:57PMJan 31st 2008
If I was trying to decide to vote for McCain, last night's debate in California told me exactly what I wanted to know about this man!
I get tired of him -- he is too old --not especially in age, but in his mind. Do we want more of this in Washington. More back stabbing, arrogance, and underhanded comments?
I am proud of my country. I want what use to be: Safety for my children, care for the elderly, no more illegals, a strong economy, a strong militry.
Who the hell does tis McCain think he is.
He is sitting by the strongest man who is running for President, who WILL make and HAS made huge strides for the American people. That man is mitt Romney and indeed he has my vote.
Sorry, McCain, you just don't cut it with your remarks -- not with this woman!
Takk4:58PMJan 31st 2008
"PRIDE GOETH BEFORE DESTRUCTION." This is what John Mccain did last night. He self-destruct himself. CONGRATULATIONS! You just armed your opponent. The Democratic Party I am sure is so happy to have something very substantial to use against you. This time, you cannot dodge the criticisms. They can see it themselves.
DO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY A FAVOR...QUIT NOW BEFORE YOUR DESTRUCTION BECAUSE YOU HAVE DONE THE MOST BLUNDER IN YOUR CAREER AS A POLITICIAN. YOU LIED TO THE WHOLE COUNTRY, AND YOU SHOWED NO MORAL COMPUNCTION. HOW SAD! I FEEL BAD FOR YOUR MOTHER has to go through all these.
I WAS SO DISAPPOINTED WITH McCAIN LAST NIGHT. HE MAKES ME THROW-UP! LAST NIGHT, MITT ROMNEY HAS SHOWN HIS REAL COLOR, a gentleman, who is well bred, highly educated and very proper. VERY PRESIDENTIAL!
On the other hand, Mccain is such a LIAR. I could not stand him. How I hope and pray that people would really look deep in their hearts and find discernment from the Holy Spirit before they would even consider Mccaain.
The Democratic Party should just keep on replaying last night's debate (01/30/2008) and use it to kick Mccain where it hurts...In the Voting Machine.
The Ad should read like this:
(After an excerpt of the Republican Party debate on 01/30/2008 was played where McCain is obviously lying and and acting so despicable...the Opponent should ask...
"is this the kind of person you want to be your President? Someone you CANNOT trust and would do anything to be elected? Is this the kind of person who embodies the honorable armed forces of the United States? Is this the kind of person, the elderly could be proud of? Is this the kind of candidate Independents would even bother to look at? What a disgrace! May be he thought because of his endorsements, he is now untouchable. You are wrong
you dirty old man, you Mccain. I hope the entire country saw the debate last night(01/30/08) and how Mccain brought upon himself is own demise. Do not forget, "PRIDE GOETH BEFORE DESTRUCTION."
IF McCain is the Republican candidate, for the first time, I would cross the line.
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Dave3:05PMJan 31st 2008
McCain was terribly rude and shrill and petty in last night's debate...he should be more concerned about answering questions put to him directly instead of that War Hero stuff to obuscate...Romney always answers his questions in a forthright and very direct way and is lucid...McCain can call himself a Republican but he is not one at all.
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