doeadeer39:53PMMar 3rd 2008

doe9:51PMMar 3rd 2008

http://people-press.org/

Latest PEW Poll shows that 20% of White Democratic voters will vote for McCain rather than for Obama. This is a big problem. It may not be "nice" but it's real life politics.

Also the Republicans would LOVE Obama to win so then they could smash him with all the stuff that's been coming out recently... and more.

Kevin10:13PMMar 3rd 2008

I'M A Sen. Obama SUPPORTER, over all I'm a Democratic and no matter who wins i'll vote Democratic i'm not going to flip flop because she didn't win or he didn't win. I'm going to vote for the party I believe in and if you one of those people that are going to flip flop because your Presidential candidate was not choose to rep. Democratic can you really call your self a Democratic?????????????

Go08Vote10:22PMMar 3rd 2008

I predicted this 2 months ago. Now Barack Hussein Obama is falling and fading away! Like a song, young mindless people will get so easy bore with a broken record....

Barack Obama is false hope for the Democratic. His speech which helps his rise to fame will be his down fall in the end.

GO HILLARY!!!

Army_NC10:25PMMar 3rd 2008

Obama speeches and preaching for changes had fade and getting boring. His day has come to end. The moment has end. Mindless people will fall for any thing if you feed them sweet and unrealistic promise. Time for reality check. Experience matter when you in position to lead the most powerful nation on earth. Trust and bet in experience when come to protecting your life and your kids future.

Do you see Patriotism? Barack Obama's refusal to wear an American flag lapel pin and did not putting his hand over his heart during the National Anthem. This who you want to be US president of USA?

GOHILLARY!

American10:27PMMar 3rd 2008

The Right Wing RNC will rip Barack Hussein Obama apart in election time. The RNC will question his patriotism, experience, and his accomplishment. The RNC will bet on 67% white population will not vote for black over white man when they close that curtain and vote on the ballot. Wake up people! The Hussein Obama moment is over! The speeches and preaching is boring and it really lame by now. Its really a broken record now. Its fading really fast!!!!!!

Picture this and who would you vote for:

Experience leader vs War Hero = Hillary

Change Vs War Hero = McCain

Vote for Hussein Obama now is vote for McCain in general election.

Go08Vote10:32PMMar 3rd 2008

Go08Vote

Barack Obama is false hope for the Democratic. His speech which helps his rise to fame will be his down fall in the end.

Can anyone tell me one country which has a black president and is prospering?
Can anyone tell me one state in USA which is govern by a black person and is prospering?
Can anyone tell me one black community in America and is prospering?

If Obama become the nominee I will vote for McCain. American people will vote for McCain if in general election ticket Obama vs. McCain. My vote is for experience and prosperity. So, I will switch my vote for McCain.

The Right Wing Republican know and betting on the fact with 67% white population on Election Day. They will vote for white man over black man (that a hard fact but it is true).

I am not Republican or Democratic. I only support for Hillary because here what I know. When Bill Clinton was in office, America was prospering, surplus budget, peace, and America was growing. Hillary will continue this legacy. Vote Now!

Zydorex10:42PMMar 3rd 2008

I would stick to party lines as well, but for the fact that Obama has no experience (even as an attorney-for 9 yrs. he worked as a "litigation" attorney for Miner Law Firm, a litigation firm in Chicago and made ZERO stated court appearances), he has no integrity, and he has no concrete platforms of his own. He kept no records from his time as in t the State Senate-ZERO.

If Hillary does not get the democratic nomination, this will be the first time in I will jump ship, if I can't write her name in.

doeadeer310:46PMMar 3rd 2008

Unspecified change let's you imagine what you want.

Which means no change at all because it will end up with no agreement on what it means.

Hillary 08! A real change with real actions.

allison10:46PMMar 3rd 2008

I have never been so sure in all of my 70 years that the only person to lead the democratic party to victory is Hillary Clinton. I wish we had another week to show our citizens that Obama is just all talk ...oh well, GOOD LUCK HILLARY...All of Sun City Arizona is for you!!!!!!!!

NC_Vote11:03PMMar 3rd 2008

Come back Hillary!
Come back Hillary!
Come back Hillary!
Come back Hillary!

If she can't do it, no body can't!
Keep fighting Hillary!
NC is with you all the way!!!!!!
NC votes count this May 6th!!!!!

NC_Vote11:10PMMar 3rd 2008

linda hartley
What changes are you referring? The false hope to the promise land of milk and honey? LIE! LIE! LIE! Mindless people will listen to any things to a speech giver and preacher. Can you ask yourself three time if experiences are require with the job?

Texan_Indepen11:32PMMar 3rd 2008

Texans independent with Hillary! I think experiences matter when come this job position.

If you vote please consider you choosing some one who can do the jobs as well can prepare speeches and preaches.

COME BACK GAL!
COME BACK GAL!
COME BACK GAL!
COME BACK GAL!
COME BACK GAL!

tfitz101712:23AMMar 4th 2008

Nice party you got going here. Way to hit those talking points, guys. I see the Muslim thing has been hammered to death.
Far and away the dirtiest campaign I've ever seen. Kind of makes me wonder how ol' Dick Nixon would have handled something like this. You can smell the desperation on her.

new2008america12:24AMMar 4th 2008

YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE CRYING AFTER YOU VOTE OBAMA OR MCCAIN IN AND WE SIT HERE FOR YEARS WITH HIGH GAS PRICES AND A SINKING ECONOMY.

HILLARY WILL BE ABLE TO REPAIR THE ECONOMY.

8 YEARS OF GREAT ECONOMY DURING THE CLINTON YEARS SPEAK OF HER EXPERIENCE EITHER SECOND HAND AS FIRST LADY OR FIRST HAND AS SENATOR..

OBAMA AND MCCAIN HAVE LITTLE OR
NO ECONOMIC BACKGROUND.

tfitz101712:25AMMar 4th 2008

You won't see these guys from here on. They just hit it and split to get on top of the comments. The usual crowd will show up for Hillary later. I don't so much mind those guys.

tom1:08AMMar 4th 2008

http://carolynbaker.net/site/content/view/310/

AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON FROM A WELLESLEY COLLEGE ALUMNA

Sunday, 03 February 2008

Submitted by a Truth To Power Subscriber From Yahoo News Groups



[This letter was written by a woman who has clearly done her homework, and confirms that no sane human being in good conscience can cast a vote for Hillary Clinton--CB]

Dear Hillary,

By polling logic, I should be your supporter - Democrat, older woman,
white, liberal. I was even in a dorm with you in college. I have
pulled for you for years. But something this past summer
fundamentally changed my responsibility to my children and
grandchildren. In the time I have left in my life to protect them and
others, I need to speak out.

I saw a News Hour piece on Maharastra, India, about farmers
committing suicide. Monsanto, a US agricultural giant, hired
Bollywood actors for ads telling illiterate farmers they could get
rich (by their standards) from big yields with Monsanto's Bt
(genetically engineered) cotton seeds. The expensive seeds needed
expensive fertilizer and pesticides (Monsanto, again) and irrigation.
There is no irrigation there. Crops failed. Farmers had larger debt
than they'd ever experienced

And farmers couldn't collect seeds from their own fields to try again
(true since time immemorial). Monsanto "patents" their DNA-altered
seeds as "intellectual property." They have a $10 million budget and
a staff of 75 devoted solely to prosecuting farmers.
http://www.grist.org/comments/food/2008/01/17./). Since the late
1990s (about when industrial agriculture took hold in India),166,000
Indian farmers have committed suicide and 8 million have left the
land.

Farmers in Europe, Asia, Africa, Indonesia,South America, Central
America and here, have protested Monsanto and genetic engineering for
years.

What does this have to do with you?

You have connections to Monsanto through the Rose Law Firm where
you worked and through Bill who hired Monsanto people for central
food-related roles. Your Orwellian-named "Rural Americans for Hillary"
was planned withTroutman Sanders, Monsanto's lobbyists.

Genetic engineering and industrialized food and animal production all
come together at the Rose Law Firm, which represents the world's
largest GE corporation (Monsanto), GE's most controversial project
(DP&L's - now Monsanto's - terminator genes), the world's largest
meat producer (Tyson), the world's largest retailer and a dominant
food retailer (Walmart).

The inbred-ness of Rose's legal representation of corporations which
own controlling interests in other corporations there and of
corporate boards sharing members who are also shareholders of each
other's corporations there, is so thorough that it is hard to capture.
Jon Jacoby, senior executive of the Stephens Group - one of the
largest institutional shareholders of Tyson Foods, Walmart, DP&L -
is also Chairman of the Board of DP&L and arranged the Wal-Mart
deal. Jackson Stephens' Stephens Group staked Sam Walton and
financed Tyson Foods. Monsanto bought DP&L. All represented at
Rose.

You didn't just work there, you made friends. That shows in the flow
of favors then and since. You were invited onto Walmart's board, you
were helped by a Tyson executive to make commodity trades (3 days
before Bill became governor), netting you $100,000, Jackson Stephens
strongly backed Bill for Governor, and then for President (donating
$100,000).

Food and friends, in Clinton terms:

Bill's appointed friend Mike Espy, Secretary of Agriculture, who
immediately significantly weakened federal chicken waste and
contamination standards, opening the door to major expansion of
Tyson's chicken factory farms. Espy resigned, indicted for
accepting bribes, illegal contributions, money laundering, illegal
dispersal of USDA subsidies, .... Tyson Foods was the largest
corporate offender.

But what Bill did for Monsanto "genetic engineering" goes beyond
inadequate concepts of giving corporate friends influence: He
unleashed genetic engineering into the world. And then he helped
close off people's escape from it.

Genetic engineering is many orders of magnitude different
from "normal" (even polluting) business in its potential biologic
ramifications. The warning myth of Pandora'a Box - letting
irretrievable things rush out into nature - has become real. The
harrowing change to the world from nuclear fission and fusion is the
closest parallel.

What did Bill do?

1. Bill's put Monsanto people in at the FDA, as US Agricultural Trade
Representatives, on International Biotechnology Consultive Forums,
and more ... (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines/072600-03.htm) or
http://www.monitor.net/monitor/9904b/monsantofda.html or
http://www.mindfully.org/GE/Revolving-Door.htm

2. Bill's FDA gave Monsanto permission to market rBGH (a GE bovine
growth hormone), the first genetically engineered product let loose
on us (or did tomatoes with fish DNA get there first?).

3. Despite reports of bovine illness and death, Bill's FDA did not
recall it or put warnings on it. Even "a very angry, very vocal
nationwide consumer base" had no impact. "

4. Bill's FDA wouldn't even label rBGH as "present" in milk.

5. When dairy farmers tried to label their own milk rBGH-free so the
public could choose, Bill's USDA threatened all dairies that their
products could be confiscated from stores. Michael Taylor, USFDA
Deputy Commissioner, was formerly Monsanto's counsel.

6. How were consumers to protect their family, given Bill's FDA
enforced public blindness, except to buy only organic? But Bill's FDA
tried to close off that last escape, proposing to include
in "organic" standards, "the dirty three" a : genetic engineering of
plants and animals, use of irradiation in food processing and use of
municipal sewage sludge as a fertilizer. (My emphasis.) The FDA
backed down.


Had this gone through, Monsanto could have finally labeled rBGH
milk ... as "organic." And animal waste from factory farms, a
pollution nightmare for Tyson and others, could have been sold as
fertilizer.

USDA head Dan Glickman: "This is probably the largest public response
to an [Agriculture Department] rule in modern history." In fact the
response was 20 times greater than anything ever before proposed by
the USDA.


Personally, I resent years of effort to protect my children and now
grandchildren, from that crap.

Politically, Bill sided against small farmers and against the
public's right to know, and with Monsanto.

A snap shot of our food:

Oils: Sheep died in India after feeding on Bt cotton fields.
We feed our children Bt cotton, as cottonseed oil in peanut butter
and cookies.

Grains: 49% of US corn acreage was planted in Bt corn in 2007. A
French study proved Monsanto's GMO corn causes kidney and liver
toxicity.


Soft drinks and candy have highly concentrated Bt corn, in the form
of high fructose Bt corn syrup. The US food system depends most on
two crops, soy (90% GMO, 90% of traits owned by Monsanto) and corn,
the largest crop (60% GMO, nearly 100% Monsanto traits). "[E]
ssentially our entire food supply is genetically modified, to the
benefit of one company." The Grocery Manufacturers of America in 2000
estimated that 70 percent of US food contains GM traits.

Meat: Steroids bulk up atheletes. Monsanto steroids bulk up animals -
more weight, more profit. We feed our children steroids in meats. Is
this why our children are fattening, like Hansel and Gretel?

Poultry: Bill's USDA weakened chicken waste and contamination
standards and attempted to allow sewage sludge as fertilize crops. I
will say more about disease from industrialized poultry farms waste,
at the end of this letter.

Milk: Over 30 scientific publications have shown increased levels of
IGF-1 in milk with rBGH increases risks of breast cancer by up to
seven-fold, also increasing colon and prostate cancers risks. Canada,
29 European nations, Norway, Switzerland, Japan, New Zealand,
Australia, and South Africa ban U.S. rBGH dairy products. Bill's
USFDA put no restrictions, no warning labels (not allowing labels at
all). (My emphasis.)


American children eat that food and drink that milk, Hillary.
Coincidentally, American children are increasingly fat and sick.

Here, Bill ignored pleas for labeling. Abroad, Bill ignored intense
international objections over the same issue - unlabeled US food
exports - badly straining trading relations. Monsanto's "good ole
boy," he betrayed American families at the deepest levels
conceivable - their family's health and their democratic right to
know. He betrayed our rural life and American family farmers -
backing corporation deceit and control, over honesty and clean
farming.

But, HIllary, it is one thing to not label a regular ole food product
to sell it, and quite another to sell a suspected-dangerous food
product (rBGH), but Bill's administration didn't label (or stop) a
well-known, terrifying threat - Mad Cow Disease.

Bill's FDA's August, 1997 regulation permitted "known TSE-positive
[Transmissible spongiform encephalopathy] material to be used in pet
food, pig, chicken and fish feed," only requiring the label to
read "Do not feed to cattle and other ruminants" in the US.

Monsanto added to the problem. "There is evidence that rbST use
[Monsanto's GE bovine growth hormone] reduces the useful lifespan of
a dairy cow. ... Given that the incubation period for BSE is at least
three to five years and perhaps longer, rbST-treated cows could
harbor "hidden" BSE. That is, they might be infected but still
asymptomatic when sent to slaughter." (My emphasis.)
http://www.consumersunion.org/food/bgh-codex.htm

Bill let TSE into our entire food chain. And who owned the feed and
slaughter and genetic engineering corporations whch benefitted?

Please, tell me, Hillary, what he could possibly have gotten in
friendship or favors, that could ever justify his exposing millions
of people to this?

With genetic engineering itself, Bill did something to the whole
world, which tried to object. Words are inadequate to express how
astoundingly immoral, beyond human bounds and conceit and power, that
was.

"Even for the biggest "winners," it is like winning at poker on the
Titanic." Jerry Mander: Facing the Rising Tide

He had no right.

Do you hear that?

Bill had sex from Monica Lewinsky. That's "dinky immoral." That's
chicken feed immoral - excuse the Tyson pun, excuse the TSE-laced
pun. Bill let genetic engineering lose on NATURE itself.

"Our way of life is likely to be more fundamentally transformed in
the next several decades than in the previous one thousand years...Tens
of thousands of novel transgenic bacteria, viruses, plants and
animals could be released into the Earth's ecosystems...Some of those
releases, however, could wreak havoc with the planet's biospheres."
Jeremy Rifkin, Biotech Century

Bill did this to us, like it was some nothing and he, some big dumb
ass Southern boy, just smiling and getting in good with the Big Boys,
thinking about as much about the consequences of something this
immense and about us human beings out here, as he thought about you,
when he was unfaithful with Monica. Just one big fool getting off on
the power and used to getting away with things.

Terminator genes, developed by DP&L, a Rose Firm client, prevent
seeds from "working" after only one season. Farmers "must" repurchase
(patents and suing not certain enough control, it seems).
Those "killing" genes pose the apocalyptic risk of breaking out into
nature. Natural seeds could fail, too. Nature could fail.

Far-fetched?

GMO fields are already contaminating normal species
Berkeley Professor of Microbiology, Ignacio Chapela, wrote an open letter,
warning the Mexican government about just this breaking out
phenomenon happening in maize

And it has already happened with weeds - pesticide resistant GMO
seeds break lose and weeds become pesticide-resistant Superweeds.

But Bill's USDA spokesman, Willard Phelps said the USDA wanted the
technology to be `widely licensed and made expeditiously available to
many seed companies.'

"Genetic Engineering is often justified as a human technology, one
that feeds more people with better food. Nothing could be further
from the truth. With very few exceptions, the whole point of genetic
engineering is to increase sales of chemicals and bio-engineered
products to dependent farmers." David Ehrenfield: Professor of
Biology, Rutgers University

Hillary, one third of the world's bee colonies have collapsed. Gone.
Farmers in India are killing themselves. Farmers and bees. Since
organic farmers in India are fine and organic farmers report no
colony collapse, what does these farming catatrophes say
about "industrial agriculture"?

Mad Cow Disease is another direct result of industrial agriculture.
And now ....... transnational poultry factories are implicated as the
source of bird flu. ... Small scale poultry farms and wild birds seem
not to be the problem [just as small farmers are not the issue in
Mad Cow Disease], and yet "initiatives are multiplying to ban
outdoor poultry, squeeze out small producers and restock farms
with genetically modified chickens. ... http://www.ens-
newswire.com/ens/feb2006/2006-02-27-01.asp "Of the few
outbreaks that did occur in [Laos], more than 90% broke out in
commercial poultry operations, not free-ranging flocks."

Monsanto (and others) is currently working with the USDA
to force small farmers to tag every animal with a global tracking
device (NAIS - National Animal Identification System). Allegedly
related to food safety, Monsanto and others would be creating a vast
corporate digital library on every move of small farmers's livestock.

But small farmers do not create the contaminated environments, do not
supply the feed, do not grind up diseased animals into feed (how Mad
Cow began) and then sell it. In fact, their farming methods, free
range and small scale, are significantly healthier and safer for
animals and food than the massive concentration of animals by
corporate industrial agriculture.

Monsanto is also aggressively pushing for state laws to limit
farmers' right to choose what to plant and the public's right exclude
GE plants from their communities.

Cattle bloated by steroids, lapse and loss of 10,000 year old normal
seeds, immense pollution from factory farms, deadly-disease-ridden
feed, world-wide bee colony collapse, poisoned soil and depleted
water supplies, Superweeds, lawsuits against farmers, loss of
family farms, and ... India farmers killing themselves in what may be
the largest mass suicide in recorded human history (on average ...
one farmers' suicide every 30 minutes since 2002 - The Hindu
1.30.08) - that is industrial agriculture.

Monsanto and Tyson are two of the largest industrial agricultural
corporations in the world. Industrial agriculture is represented by
your Rose Law Firm.

Your claim to care about food safety is terrifying double-speak given
what Bill did and who you take donations from. Your idea of a
Department of Food Safety would centralize control of food - in whose
corporate connected hands? You talk tough about labeling food - ah,
but "foreign" food - a sleight of hand tricking a public desperate
for safe US food. You talk about food safety but Bill degraded food
in every imaginable way and prevented minimally sane labeling.

I am a person before I am a woman. Your gender means nothing. It is a
media distraction. Your policies on health and food and women and
children, are meaningless in the face of connections that have
threatened those groups profoundly, connections you have never
denounced.

Monsanto uses child labor in India, primarily very young girls,
exposing them to a lethal pesticide 13-14 hours a day, for pennies in
pay. But you take donations from their lobbyists. You say you care
about black people but as the poorest people in this country, they
are least able to buy organic and are forced to eat the contaminated
foods Bill let into our food system. The National Black Farmers
Association has a boycott out on all Monsanto products.

Do you eat organic?

So, who are you with, hapless black consumers and black farmers, or
Monsanto? Mothers left to give their children rBGH milk, or Monsanto?
Women exposed to 7 times greater risk of breast cancer, or Monsanto?
Desperate farmers in India and young children forced into child labor
in cottonseed factories there, or Monsanto? Animals suffering from
lives in filthy cages and disgusting feedlots, shot up with steroids
and hormones and antibiotics, or Monsanto? Our children who eat candy
with high fructose Bt corn syrup associated with kidney and liver
toxicity, or Monsanto?

Edwards was right about your corporate connections. I just didn't
understand until I saw that PBS show and read about Monsanto, how
personally affected my children and grandchildren, and all people
around the world, have been.

I will not vote for you. I will vote for someone who will commit
themselves to work on behalf of small farmers and real food and
decent treatment of animals and to end this industrialized
agricultural nightmare that is taking us off a cliff.

Linn Cohen-Cole
Atlanta

Disclaimer. I am not a scientist. I have read for months on this
subject, and am including only a tiny portion of the horrifying
things I have learned. I am expressing my opinion as person and may
be wrong. Perhaps things are swell out there and rBGH is fabulous and
TSE-laced feed is great, and genetic engineering is the best thing
since manna. But I am scared for my family and I have not only a
right to say so but an obligation to do so. I am angry that Monsanto
was allowed the influence it had and has done the things it
definitely seems to have. I am disgusted by industrialization of
every tender and beautiful part of our world and hope, for all our
children's sake, we are not too late to pull back.


Last Updated ( Sunday, 03 February 2008 )

Pjayee1:47AMMar 4th 2008

Do people still listen to Rush Limberger, I wouldn't do anything he would suggest even though I like votes for Hillary, I quess he doesn't have faith in his own party , Sorry Rush we have grown past you

Katherine2:20AMMar 4th 2008

Hillary's campaigning is NOT "negative" it is factual. One cannot help if they illuminate FACTUAL truths of another and those truths are indeed negative.

I hate that crap! Hillary's campaign ads are simply pointing out disparities in his claims as competent.

DANG IT ALL!













Senator Clinton for President!

Katherine2:21AMMar 4th 2008

Obama was a fad, a trend, and a pastime.

The media over saturated everyone with his "celebrity" and then..................people became desensitized.....they sobered up.

and they asked:






Wait a minute here. What exactly have you done and what exactly are your saying?





Disappointment then ensues....


But not for Hillary!







Senator Clinton for President.

Katherine2:21AMMar 4th 2008

Tom:


Stop copying and pasting JUNK form Obama's site.


If you follow HIS site you would think that Lorna Brett Howard (Former President of Chicago NOW) is the women's voice on who to support.



That woman got REMOVED. Chicago NOW currently supports HILLARY. As does NATIONAL NOW.....meaning, the OVERALL oganization for women!


Obama's website is filled with propaganda and absurdity.