james baisden11:40AMMar 24th 2008

I think clintion is going to be lot better for us in thee white house is because she is for everyone lie the low income people and obama if he gets in the white house he will send all of oyur troops back home from iraq and he is for all the black people not for the whites

Eleanor D. Pryor11:47AMMar 24th 2008

Everyone wants change but change in the right direction is what we want. Having lived overseas I know there is not another country that can be as wonderful as America and all these people who are craving change had better think about the kind of change we might get with Obama as president of this country. We know very little about Obama but are beginning to see things that were not so prevelant before. Not giving alegience to our flag is one thing I think about. I have the picture of this man not putting his hand over his chest while all others were doing so, and the lapel pin also caused me to give me some thought. Just who is this man who we do not know as much about as we do his wife, not to mention his close association with Wright and other questionable people. It is surprising to me that many of our 'so-called' intelligentsia sitting in the White House are voting for him - very strange - strange indeed - Watch out America you may get the change you were not looking for.

brent cummins11:48AMMar 24th 2008

Eamil circulated in the 1990s:
FW: THINK ABOUT IT FIRST

All of these folks are indeed dead and it might all just be a tragic coincidence--- But I wouldn't want to be on their list of associates (just to be on the safe side)!!!!!!!!!!!

SO NOW YOU MIGHT VOTE FOR HILLARY? THINK ABOUT IT FIRST......

This is what happens when you have dirt on the Clintons :

1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992... Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."

7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death

19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.

20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.

29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes."

34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 - Major General William Robertson 41 - Col. William Densberger 42 - Col. Robert Kelly 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 - Steve Willis 45 - Robert Williams 46 - Conway LeBleu 47 - Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to anyone who might damage the Clinton machine

Erma12:01PMMar 24th 2008

Obama can not bring the change that the American people are looking for.There are too many questions he can not answer.

Ted in Chicago12:13PMMar 24th 2008

I do NOT agree with the author of the underlying first article - Victor David Hanson - in most of what he says in his article.

VDH in his article uses the now classic conservative argument -- THAT WHEN BORN - all Blacks Browns Yellows Reds and Whites have an equal shot at prosperity. That when born they all have equally educated parents who cherish education - have nice homes - etc.

With this WRONG underlying premise conservatives want everyone to love Amreica as if they live in pretty suburbs or fancy sections of Urban areas. They want everyone to then COMPETE EQUALLY FROM THERE.

CRAZY PREMISE and one that will keep race an issue (for them to use in Elections via fear) for generations to come.

Equality to conservatives begins at Birth - despite unequal homes parents income education etc.

Stupid in concept - warped in inhumanity -- and plain wrong as a basis to argue for "equality"

YET - I FIND MYSELF AGREEING WITH CONSERVATIVES ON ONE POINT.. and it is strange for me as a middle of the road DEM or mid-liberal.

I AGREE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR BO TO HAVE STAYED WITH WRIGHT ALL THESE YEARS.

continued

Susan Nation12:27PMMar 24th 2008

Okay - there is no resolution between Democrats. Obama supporters won't vote Clinton, Clinton supporters won't vote Obama.


At the Democratic National Convention, declare neither as a candidate and call for a vote for Al Gore.



Betcha all those caucus voters will stand up and vote for Gore.

greg jenkins12:28PMMar 24th 2008

ERRNA said, "Obama can not bring the change that the American people are looking for.There are too many questions he can not answer."

Dam vague claim ERRNA. You must be one who believes all the amswers Clinton gives. If Hillary is the only one that bring change to the Whitehouse, heaven help us ALL. Obama has went out of his way to answer too many questions already. Where were you? ALL the experiance Hillary has claimed to have has been rooted into and found to be LIES. Where have you been? Read Hillary's OWN (available on net) hand-written documented long list of evidence of ALL she did not do and what she really did which is a bunch of frivious tea parties and other stageing and strolling about while Bill was taking care of Whitehouse business in private. Hillary's one lie after another has been exposed. Where have you been. Hillary has NO experiance as Commander-in-Chief. If you think otherwise, you are as mislead as Hillary hopes you will be. If my wife was a Neuro-Surgeon that would not make me have any experiance as a Neuro-Surgeon. And so it goes. Hillary, like any other First Lady, was a First Lady. I sure as hell don't Bill to be the First Laddie, he never has been a First Laddie nor do I want to be Hillary Commander-in-Chief, she has neber been Commander-in-Chief. Voters
being gullible is what Hillary banks her lies on but today's voters (especially the younger generation) are of another generation; not buying into her nonsense. Hillary is trying to run the same camoaign that the Clinton Machine has always ran. Ain't working this time around. No 3rd term for Clintons in 2008.

TJ12:31PMMar 24th 2008

OBAMA DID NOT THROW MR WRIGHT UNDER THE BUS, HE THREW HIS OWN GRANDMA UNDER THE BUS---
GO FIGURE THIS GUY OUT
HE LIES ENDLESSLY AND WHEN YOU CATCH HIM, HE RESORTS TO SPEECHES-
OBAMAMANIA IS OVER.
OBAMA SHOULD STEP ASIDE....HE WILL NEVER WIN

tfitz101712:40PMMar 24th 2008

Can't get past the first page of these comments.
Sure is nice though that the klan folk and the hil-bots are on the same page. Seems like obama is a unifier there.

pete h.12:44PMMar 24th 2008

susan nation ...., Al Gore wants no part of being Pres. in 2008. Obama has his sights set on his own Vice Pres, won't be Hillary. The Superdelegates very soon will throw the towel against Hillary. The parting of the ways has just began to roll in and it all will be over soon. The Super D's have a plan in progress already and they will not let this election nomination be decided at the Convention. NEVER. It is they who have their finger on the pulse and see where things are heading and will head it off and bingo it is over for Hillary. Actually it is over for her already, right now she is a chicken with her head cut off still flapping around. Hillary above all others knows the truth and that her fate has already been sealed. Both bIll and Hillary get it, know it is IMPOSSIBLE for Hillary to get the MATH needed. Too little, too late.

Susan Nation12:51PMMar 24th 2008

Here's the reality. Obama supporters will not support Clinton. Clinton supporters will not support Obama. Results - loss in general election.

Fact: Obama is sinking fast in public opinion. He will not be electable. Perhaps Clinton will pull ahead in the popular vote, and if so, all those manipulated caucus delegates will be in jeopardy when they go home.

Delegates should reject both candidates and call for a secret ballot (no more of this call for hands - it isn't democratic and it a form of blackmail).

If Al Gore allows himself to be put on the ballot of options - unity will be restored, a greek tragedy avoided, and Americans get a chance to vote for a solid candidate.

Is it do-able - you betcha! It is all in the rules, and the only one obfuscating the rules is Howard Dean and Ted Kennedy with their arbitrary read of the rules.

tfitz101712:52PMMar 24th 2008

And the klan/Hil-Bot prize goes to Jebinb for actually having the balls to come right out and call the jr senator from Illinois an 'N Word'. I know he pussed a bit by saying obama is "acting like a typical 'N-Word'"
But that's close enough. Jebinb will be automatically nominated as a candidate for the Grand Dragon of the 'Nat'l Organization for Women'

deborah brooks12:55PMMar 24th 2008

Hilary says, when she takes over the Whitehouse she will first look under the rug and clean what has been swept under the rug.

http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/24639.html

Denver Camdon1:03PMMar 24th 2008

SUSAN NATION....OBAMA IS NOT SINKING. ALL LATEST MEDIA SPOKESPERSONS AND ALL OTHER POLITICAL DATA ASCPECTS USED AS INDICATORS INDICATE OTHERWISE. THEY ALL AGREE. OBAMA IS UP IN THE POLLS AND IN THE LEAD STILL. I WATCH VERY CAREFULLY, DAILY AND HOURLY, AND KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE. OBAMA IS NOT SINKING. WHAT YOU REFER TO IS A SHORT INTERVAL OF PAST TENSE.

tedman181:06PMMar 24th 2008

I do NOT agree with the author of the underlying first article - Victor David Hanson - in most of what he says in his article.

VDH in his article uses the now classic conservative argument -- THAT WHEN BORN - all Blacks Browns Yellows Reds and Whites have an equal shot at prosperity. That when born they all have equally educated parents who cherish education - have nice homes - etc.

With this WRONG underlying premise conservatives want everyone to love America as if they live in pretty suburbs or fancy sections of Urban areas. They want everyone to then COMPETE EQUALLY FROM THERE.

CRAZY PREMISE and one that will keep race an issue (for them to use in Elections via fear) for generations to come.

Equality to conservatives begins at Birth - despite unequal homes parents income education etc.

Stupid in concept - warped in inhumanity -- and plain wrong as a basis to argue for "equality"

YET - I FIND MYSELF AGREEING WITH CONSERVATIVES ON ONE POINT.. And it is strange for me as a middle of the road DEM or mid-liberal.

I AGREE THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR BO TO HAVE STAYED WITH WRIGHT ALL THESE YEARS.

Continued

tedman181:06PMMar 24th 2008

Continued

While I give the older REV Wright some lee way for his type of crazy
ugly talk in the 70s-80s - he REV Wright should have grown out of it
- and he should have ended it in the beginning of the 90s at the
latest. Even BO agrees it has used up its welcome and said so.

MORE IMPORTANTLY - I feel BO indeed should have apologized to America
- Not for joining that Church - but for staying after he became a
Senator of all IL and for sure as he began to run for President of
all of the US. It was poor judgment - lack of self awareness - and
mostly a lack of political or moral courage. Shame on you Barack
Obama.

To the author above – shame on you for your sly innuendo and sly writing. Courage now by BO WOULD NOT BE THROWING WRIGHT UNDER THE BUS

True courage would have for BO to have said something like he did -
the speeches HAD a place - they are uglee - there are some who
believe that way - mostly people of a past generation who were more
seriously abused. Leave them alone - they are of an older new
generation.

The new generation does not agree ... it feels xyz

I apologize for I am of the new generation - and I should have left
that Church etc

BO could have taken some serious blame for his lack of leaving -
Offered a sincere apology for non excusable behavior in a 46 year old
- who with his wife have had great success etc.


BO could have blamed himself harder - and done so while still
excusing his retiring Pastor for being a mixed message of religion -
love - and yes ugly stuff

I fine little in the above article that makes sense to me - other
then the author likes Obama and is somehow trying to excuse
inexcusable behavior by BO (not the old minister).

To all bigots - especially white bigots who use these issues to speak
their hatred openly - I tell my brothers - you are as ugly as anything
you call ugly

But that does not excuse BO - he is of the now generation (as he
keeps telling us) - he should have swept out the old messages of

Ugliness with a broom - and he did not.

In his speech, for all intents and purposes he rationalized it --- his lack of judgment – his lack of courage--instead of apologizing for it

TrthHonor1:11PMMar 24th 2008

I do believe obama believes just everything his pastors says, further he believes 9/11 was amercias atonement and he said americans had it coming, he said we deserve it, now if we put obama in in the white house and amercia is attack agian by terrorist what would obama and his pastor do?? Its easy to figure out they would be rejoicing and chanting from the steps of the White House to the steps of that church in Chicago "america deserves to die", Obama supporters need to think about that, and the only chicken that has come home to roast is Obama!!!! Vote agianst him

steve d. cannon .1:16PMMar 24th 2008

Nothing to fret over folks. I would love to see Hillary get the Nominee. Why? Not because I like the crase fork-tongued gravel-throated dominate .....(add the noun that rhymes with dish) but because the GOP has shit-load of dirt to dump on her that can be traced from her college years, years in the Arkansaw Mansion, years in the Whitehouse and years out of the Whitehouse. McCain and Obama will look lily-white when the GOP gets done with Hillary. They have it all and will not hesitate to use it. The GOP is the thing to fear, not Obama. So many here seem overly paranoid. Gets on some Prozac and back to reality. It is the HIERARCHY that controls elections. WE, the people, are only pawns in the bigger election game that has already been staged and waiting to be played out as dictated. Watch and see. The fish never stinks from the tail, strinks from the head.

tzada1:26PMMar 24th 2008

Ten Steps and More
Or how to Tip an election…..

There is no denial, high oil prices are affecting The United States….. There is no denial, The US economy is on the decline being driven by escalating oil prices. Could actions by foreign counties, tip our election? Ruin America’s economy by manipulating the price of oil, funneling bundled money into a candidates campaign… destroy our Nation.

Support of a candidate whose farce of eloquent speeches, empty, high-sounding promises fill the air. In platitude filled speeches presidential candidate Obama has made copious promises, his drums of change pounding in our ears.

Just suppose one of the candidates had connections….. Nations who would prefer the person in the White House had “friends in oil places”? * Barack Obama has been accused of being a Muslim. Despite his denial, many Muslims and Arabs, insist that he is. He also has the support of many radical originations, some enemies of the USA. Some of them have had his support in the past.

Following 9/11 Barack Hussein Obama, said this….“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

This is what Amir Taheri an Iranian, living in Eurpe had to say. “What is troubling about Obama's approach to the mini-storm stirred by his political enemies over his name, is what may look like an attempt at obfuscation. He has behaved as if he did have a family secret.”

“Obama is offering a policy of dialogue and accommodation. He has opposed the listing of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization, and proposed a grand bargain with the regime in Damascus. Obama is even prepared to ignore two United Nations' Security Council resolutions that require Iran to stop its uranium enrichment programme as a precondition for talks at the highest level.”

“Last but not least, Obama has promised to withdraw from Iraq within the first year of his presidency, thus meeting one of the key demands of radical Muslim forces, whether Sunni or Shiite.”

“The message is clear: Obama wants a new relationship with radical forces in the Islamic world while distancing the US from its traditional allies in the region. In other words, he proposes to reverse policies that have taken shape over more than six decades under 12 successive American presidents.
It is this revolutionary idea that deserves to be closely examined, studied and debated.”
By Amir Taheri http://www.gulfnews.com/opinion/columns/world/10194808.html




*One last factor to consider in, is this *Islamic Sharia law proposes the death sentence for Muslims who abandon the religion. Afghanistan’s new constitution says “no law can be contrary to the sacred religion of Islam”

Who is an apostate according to the legislation? Anyone in the world, not just Iranians, born to a Muslim parent; also, any convert to Islam who leaves it. Only one parent needs to be a Muslim at the time of conception for Islam to own that child for life.

Islam is Ummehist. Islam doesn’t recognize nationalities and national boundaries. And these Islamic zealots are very serious and have no sense of humor. . What they certainly have is a thirst for blood, especially for the blood of infidels and apostates. Death for apostasy already exists in Iran under Sharia or “Islamic law.” What a coup it would be to kill such a high profile person. **
Who or what is staying the hand of these death mongers? Friends of oil in high places? Perhaps a religion, wrapped within a religion, one hidden in plain sight? One favor returned for ten favors paid?… .


I believe it is factual to say he has family ties to Muslims. I think it is fair to say that some, perhaps all of his names are of Arabic origin. I think it is factual that many Arabs and Muslims are behind his candidacy. The answer to that question is why?


Please, take the time to research names on the following list, in connection with Obama.

Raila Odinga
Rev. Jeremiah Wright
Louis Farrakhan
New Black Panther Party
Nadhmi Auchi
Rashid Khalidi
Tony Rezko (add Saddam Hussein and follow the money)
Jabir Herbert Muhammad
Organizations: Woods Fund; AAAN; PNA; PLO
Arab Nations
FARC


** His cousin Raila Odinga is trying to establish Sharia or “Islamic law in Kenya. Barack Obama, campaigned for him in his failed Kenya run for President. Reportedly US tax dollars paid for that trip.

douglas ellington1:27PMMar 24th 2008

Hillary's Universal Health Plan is flawed, BEWARE. In her very own words, in her speech re her Plan she said, "those who do not pay will have their wages garnished." Heard it with my own ears, saw her say it with my own eyes. Then, afterwards, she claims to not have said it. You just can't believe that woman or that man who "did not have sex with that woman". What a pair of liars to draw to. READ ON-----

Mass. passed Universal Health Ins. into law and now:
"Massachusetts Health Reform Bill: A False Promise of Universal Coverage......" about 250,000 more people are uninsured in Massachusetts than the day it was signed. Unfortunately, Massachusetts" new health reform legislation looks set to repeat that disaster."
What are they to do... fine these people, charge them with a misdemeanor, garnish their wages? Hillary still has to answer that...
California Gov. tried to get Hillary's health ins. model passed in CA. It was just REJECTED 7-1.
"In a blow to universal health care coverage in California and possibly to its prospects nationwide, a State Senate committee on Monday rejected a sweeping plan by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger that would have offered insurance to millions of uninsured residents. "
""This bill is not only not perfect, it is flawed," said State Senator Sheila James Kuehl, Democrat of Los Angeles and chairwoman of the committee, who voted against it."