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Update: Clinton 'Possibly Misspoke' on Bosnia
Hillary Clinton has been regaling supporters on the campaign trail with hair-raising tales of a trip she made to Bosnia in March 1996. In her retelling, she was sent to places that her husband, President Bill Clinton, could not go because they were "too dangerous." When her account was challenged by one of her traveling companions, the comedian Sinbad, she upped the ante and injected even more drama into the story. In a speech earlier this week, she talked about "landing under sniper fire" and running for safety with "our heads down."
There are numerous problems with Clinton's version of events.
The article goes on to list the contradictions, but then there's also this devastating video:
Update: On today's conference call, Clinton chief strategist Howard Wolfson responded to a question specifically about the sniper fire and welcome ceremony, first by copping to a "scaled-back event" upon landing, and when pressed, by saying that Senator Clinton "possibly might have misspoken at an event last week." <
Update: Obama spokesman responds,at the end of the story.
This issue has the kinds of details that stand out in people's minds. Just the absurdity of a war of words with Sinbad makes it indelible. Rather than cop to a possible fuzzy memory, the Clinton campaign, responding t the question at a conference call, responded to the Post story by standing by Hillary's account.
If Hillary is the nominee, expect McCain or some 527 group to run a split screen of McCain limping off the transport that carried him back from the Hanoi Hilton, next to that Bosnian meet-n-greet.
Update: Obama spokesman responds, via email:
"Senator Clinton said that a planned welcoming ceremony was cancelled because they needed to avoid sniper fire, but news footage shows that she was met by a small child who read her a poem. Contrary to the latest spin from the Clinton campaign, when you make a false claim that's in your prepared remarks, it's not misspeaking, it's misleading, and it's part of a troubling pattern of Senator Clinton inflating her foreign policy experience," said Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor.
Recent Comments
(Page 2 of 4)tfitz10172:57PMMar 24th 2008
Susan Nation! The fumes from all that pasting are making my eyes sting!
tfitz10173:04PMMar 24th 2008
Heard over the roar of the jets and punctuated by sniper fire:
"OK, as soon as we hit the ground head straight for the cars and for gods sake keep your heads down. Now Sinbad, you'll have to cut your monologue to 3 minutes, got that? Mrs Clinton, do not kiss the child more than twice. I repeat, do not kiss the child more than twice. Gods speed!"
tfitz10173:13PMMar 24th 2008
Tommy, Obama has to hit the war and the economy and keep hitting it. If they want to talk about a bunch of bullshit, that's fine. War, economy, war, economy, war , economy...
tfitz10173:16PMMar 24th 2008
He has to stick to this.-t
Obama says Iraq war drag on economy
Reuters News
Posted: 2008-03-24 14:06:40
By Matthew Bigg
CHARLESTON, West Virginia (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Thursday said the $500 billion cost of the Iraq war is a drag on the U.S. economy and attempted to lay some of the blame for it on Republican rival John McCain.
"How much longer are we going to ask our families and our communities to bear the cost of this war?" the Illinois senator asked in a speech.
As Obama tried to translate public opposition to the war into support for his candidacy, a Gallup poll said his Democratic opponent, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton, has moved into a significant lead over him among Democratic voters.
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It's the war AND the economy. He needs to hit this and keep on hitting it until people are sick of hearing it.
Marcy3:23PMMar 24th 2008
Hillary Clinton has continued to beat the odds with everything she keeps getting slammed with. She stands up and fights back while Barrack Obama skates thru a free ride because he is young and different. The majority of Americans voting for him are kids who don't even know what politics are. At least the people voting for Hillary have alot of experience in truly understanding politics and I personally believe she is "MORE" than capable of getting the job done. I do not feel she should give up now. That's what Obama wants her to do. Of course, so he can slide into nomination and fill our country with more lies and false promises. Don't give up Hillary.... you have come too far!!!
MOJOJOJO4:10PMMar 24th 2008
MANY PEOPLE DID DIE WHEN BILL AND HILLARY SAID SOMETHING STUPID! THE
BODY COUNT KEEPS PILING! TOO BAD IT DID NOT HAVE A REVERSE EFFECT!
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THAT CHARISMATIC STRANGER WAS BILL CLINTON! IT IS FORE SAID THAT THE
PATH WILL BE PAVED TO THE MOST POWERFUL POSITION AND THE DEVIL'S
ADVOCATE (SLICK WILLY) WILL HAVE A MAJOR ROLE! THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE
AND
THE ONE CHOSEN DO NOT ATTEND SERVICES WITHIN A INSTITUTION OF GOD BUT
CLAIM THEMSELVES AS THE SAVIORS OF CHRISTIANITY! THEY WILL DIVIDE THE
PEOPLE AND RULE BY FORCE! ANY THAT DO NOT ABIDE WILL DIE AN
UNFORESEEN DEATH AND MONEY AND TRADE WILL BE WORTHLESS AS THE ASSETS
ARE ABSORBED AND THE BARRIERS ERASED! THE ARMIES SHALL DIMINISH AND
SHALL BE REPLACED BY THE CHOSENS DOMINIONS AND CHAOS SHALL INCREASE
IN FREQUENCY! THE IDOLATERS SHALL RISE WITH SLURS UNSPEAKABLE AS
THEIR LEADER DEFACES AND BLACKENS ALL WITH HATRED AND DARKNESS! THE
ONE CHOSEN SHALL CONSORT WITH THINE ENEMY AND RALLY THE SUPPORT OF
HER MINIONS! THE GOLDEN COW SHALL RISE FOR
ALL TO IDOLIZE AND WORSHIP IN THE BEGINNING OF THE END! ARMAGEDDON IS
UPON US AND THIS IS OUR LAST CHANCE TO REJECT AND DENOUNCE THE GOLDEN
COW! THE CHOSEN ONE OF THE DARKNESS SHALL TRAVEL GREAT DISTANCES
PARTAKING IN UNVERIFIABLE ACTS THROUGH HER TWISTED TRUTHS AND SHALL
RISE IN POWER TO THE TRUE POWER BEHIND THE MOST POWERFUL POSITION!
THE HOUSE OF GOD SHALL CRUMBLE AND THE LANDS SHALL SHAKE WITH FEAR
UNSEEN, AND THE WATERS SHALL RISE AS THE 12 TRIBES ARE ONE IN THE
VILLAGE OF THE CHOSEN! THE ABOMINATIONS WILL BE ARISEN AS THE
CHRISTIANS SHALL BE SLOWLY DIVIDED AND FELL! THE SEAL OF THE CHOSEN
ONE IS A SIGN OF THE TIME TO COME! THE BATTLES WILL BE BLOODY UP TO
THE TIME OF HER RISE! THE MOTHER OF ALL ABOMINATION, HILLARY GOLDEN
COW CLINTON! THE SCARLET WOMAN! THE ARMIES ARE RISING IN PREPARATION
AGAINST THE MOTHER OF ALL ABOMINATION!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babalon
FEAR IS A GHOST OF THE IMAGE FROM OUR OWN HEARTS AND ONLY LIVES ONCE!
IT CONTROLS THE SOUL IF THE SOUL ALLOWS!
LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN AND THE TRUTH SHALL BE SAID AND WE SHALL BE
LAIN SAFE IN OUR BEDS
(REJECT AND DENOUNCE) HILLARY GOLDEN COW CLINTON! A STORY
THAT WILL BE ONCE TOLD AND THAN FORGOTTEN! STRICKEN FROM THE HISTORY
BOOKS!!
Jamie4:44PMMar 24th 2008
OMG!! This is further proof of how Hillary has severly padded her resume! Fist, there was the Northern Ireland lie. Then she lied about the extent of her involvement with SCHIP. Now, she's tellie lies at campaign rallys about her account of Bosnia?!! WOW! Here's ANOTHER Hillary lie exposed!
JAY B5:16PMMar 24th 2008
Obama possibly misspoke every time he opened his mouth! He has told so many lies, I no longer know who he is, but the biased media continues to protect him.
Neither of the Clintons can sneeze without someone saying it’s a smear against Obama.
Obama has destroyed the Democratic Party. If you have not already done so, PLEASE E-Mail or call the DNC. If you have already written the DNC, please do so again. Or, phone# 202 863 8000. The e-mail address is: www.democrats.org/contact
JenniferB6:11PMMar 24th 2008
One thing I can't help but notice in this thread is all the Senator Hillary supporters bad mouthing Senator Obama...calling him a liar. Now that is spinning.
1ProudAmerican6:31PMMar 24th 2008
JenniferB6:11PMMar 24th 2008 WROTE:
One thing I can't help but notice in this thread is all the Senator Hillary supporters bad mouthing Senator Obama...calling him a liar. Now that is spinning.
---------------------------------
JENNIFER:
NO SPIN HERE!
Barack Obama is not responsible for what other people say or do, but he is responsible for lying to the American people. His long-time relationships with dishonest and anti-American people must be considered. He has lost credibility. He has had a 'free pass' from the media until recently. Now the truth is coming out, we need to take another look at him.
The people who have already voted are stuck. I imagine many of them are not thrilled about this. Michigan and Florida won't count. This is disgusting. How many 'illegals' and 'dead' people are voting?
Will we ever know who the real Barack Hussein Obama is? He has run on lies. He is destroying the Democratic Party.
Hillary '08.
JUDY fERGUSON7:18PMMar 24th 2008
KINDA LIKE BUSH MISSPOKE ABOUT WMD'S, we can't believe a word that comes out of her mouth. Sinbad was taken as a joke until someone coughed up the video. LOL As Sinbad said Chealsea and the Aid was looking for something to eat.
JenniferB7:29PMMar 24th 2008
1ProudAmerican said:
"Barack Obama is not responsible for what other people say or do, but he is responsible for lying to the American people. His long-time relationships with dishonest and anti-American people must be considered. He has lost credibility."
You could have started that with Hillary Clinton instead of Barack Obama (and changed the hes to shes). As far a the 'free pass'...I think the media give all politicians a free pass...imagine what would happen to you or I if we did some of the things these people have done? Like perjury or saying under oath 'I don't remember' 250 times?
"The people who have already voted are stuck. I imagine many of them are not thrilled about this. Michigan and Florida won't count. This is disgusting. How many 'illegals' and 'dead' people are voting?"
How do you know any of this and what does the latter have to do with Senator Obama?
"Will we ever know who the real Barack Hussein Obama is? He has run on lies. He is destroying the Democratic Party."
This is just more of the same...Senator Clinton is running on lies (this article is an example of that) Senator Obama is ahead in delegates, popular vote (with Florida included), and states so I don't see it as he is destroying the Democratic Party.
So, I have to say...it just is more spin. By the way, I'm undecided...but not for long me thinks.
John8:18PMMar 24th 2008
History is in the making/first Black or first Woman, at my age,Imight never see this again. Lets stop the fighting and get to the issues at hand.Let the people decide and not the so called Super Deligates, after all they are just like us one vote.
Pete9:44PMMar 24th 2008
Ya think??????????? If I ever ran with my head down and my daughter beside me dodging bullets I'd rememeber it vividly.
Labeling a bold face BS LIE as having misspoken is some SPIN, good job!!!!!!!
love this9:54PMMar 24th 2008
This news story is going to break wide open soon people.. Hillary clinton caught lying again........ about michigan and florida..
It is hysterical.. guess who busted her...
a democrat and rush limbaugh........lol
love this9:55PMMar 24th 2008
Hillary Clinton caught lying again by two journalist... ( 1 republican shock jock and 1 democrat)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/13/11136/3289/192/475758 - Daily Kos w/ pledge PDF
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_032008/content/01125112.guest.html - Rush Limbaugh Show ( see transcript below)
Hillary Clinton - Caught lying about pledge in michigan
Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 08:18:48 AM PDT
This morning, on NPR, Senator Clinton admitted to breaking her pledge to the DNC. She stated:
"... we all had a choice as to whether or not to participate in what was going to be a primary. And most people took their names off the ballot, but I didn't. And I think that was a wise decision because Michigan is key to our electoral victory in the fall.
This is a direct and unequivocable violation of her pledge to the DNC and Democratic voters. She signed a pledge not to campaign OR PARTICIPATE. Here's the relevant section of the pledge (pdf):
THEREFORE, I (Hillary Clinton), Democratic Candidate for President, in honor and in accordance with DNC rules, pledge to actively campaign in the pre-approved early states Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina. I pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any election contest occurring in any state not already authorized by the DNC to take place in the DNC approved pre-window (any date prior to February 5, 2008).
By her own admission, she has broken her pledge.
As she stated, she had a choice to make - and she chose to break her word.
Rush limbaugh show - caught hillary clinton lying about michigan pledge
HILLARY: Ignoring Michigan and Florida would be a grave mistake. We won't be able to end the war in Iraq. We won't achieve universal health care.
RUSH: What?
HILLARY: We won't end the housing crisis and get the economy moving again --
RUSH: Oh.
HILLARY: -- unless we win in Michigan and Florida in November.
RUSH: Who is it that destroyed the Michigan economy? We got a one-state recession in this country, and it's run by Democrats! Jeb Bush is sitting around, and he's amused by all this in Florida. But now, let's go back to October 11th, last year (2007 for those of you in Rio Linda). This is on New Hampshire Public Radio. The guest, Senator Hillary Clinton. The New Hampshire Public Radio hostette Laura Knoy says, "So, if you value the DNC calendar, why not just pull out of Michigan? Why not just say, 'Hey, Michigan, I'm off the ballot."
HILLARY OCTOBER 2007: It's like clear this election they're having is not going to count for anything.
RUSH: Hillary Clinton last year: The election in Michigan "is not going to count for anything." She knew it wasn't going to count, and they didn't care it wasn't going to count for anything because she was going to be coronated after Super Tuesday. Operation Chaos!
love this9:57PMMar 24th 2008
Hillary Clinton caught lying again by two journalist... ( 1 republican shock jock and 1 democrat)
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/13/11136/3289/192/475758 - Daily Kos w/ pledge PDF
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_032008/content/01125112.guest.html - Rush Limbaugh Show ( see transcript below)
Hillary Clinton - Caught lying about pledge in michigan
Thu Mar 13, 2008 at 08:18:48 AM PDT
This morning, on NPR, Senator Clinton admitted to breaking her pledge to the DNC. She stated:
"... we all had a choice as to whether or not to participate in what was going to be a primary. And most people took their names off the ballot, but I didn't. And I think that was a wise decision because Michigan is key to our electoral victory in the fall.
This is a direct and unequivocable violation of her pledge to the DNC and Democratic voters. She signed a pledge not to campaign OR PARTICIPATE. Here's the relevant section of the pledge (pdf):
THEREFORE, I (Hillary Clinton), Democratic Candidate for President, in honor and in accordance with DNC rules, pledge to actively campaign in the pre-approved early states Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire and South Carolina. I pledge I shall not campaign or participate in any election contest occurring in any state not already authorized by the DNC to take place in the DNC approved pre-window (any date prior to February 5, 2008).
By her own admission, she has broken her pledge.
As she stated, she had a choice to make - and she chose to break her word.
Rush limbaugh show - caught hillary clinton lying about michigan pledge
HILLARY: Ignoring Michigan and Florida would be a grave mistake. We won't be able to end the war in Iraq. We won't achieve universal health care.
RUSH: What?
HILLARY: We won't end the housing crisis and get the economy moving again --
RUSH: Oh.
HILLARY: -- unless we win in Michigan and Florida in November.
RUSH: Who is it that destroyed the Michigan economy? We got a one-state recession in this country, and it's run by Democrats! Jeb Bush is sitting around, and he's amused by all this in Florida. But now, let's go back to October 11th, last year (2007 for those of you in Rio Linda). This is on New Hampshire Public Radio. The guest, Senator Hillary Clinton. The New Hampshire Public Radio hostette Laura Knoy says, "So, if you value the DNC calendar, why not just pull out of Michigan? Why not just say, 'Hey, Michigan, I'm off the ballot."
HILLARY OCTOBER 2007: It's like clear this election they're having is not going to count for anything.
RUSH: Hillary Clinton last year: The election in Michigan "is not going to count for anything." She knew it wasn't going to count, and they didn't care it wasn't going to count for anything because she was going to be coronated after Super Tuesday. Operation Chaos!
Tommy Christopher10:01PMMar 24th 2008
Donna,
me not understand. Why Donna not like Tommy? Tommy make eye-water.
I agree, this story by itself is trivial. In the context of Hillary trying to attack a fellow Democrat on National Security, thereby aiding their common opponent, I am quite comfortable with it.
You should also know that I didn't even ask about this today, but the question came up twice on Saturday's call, and 3 times today, before Wolfson even addressed the sniper fire. If he'd simply said at the outset, "She meant to say they were warned about sniper fire", it would have been done. As it stands, they only copped to it because of the video.
I think Hillary showed courage going to Bosnia. Period. I've said so before.
Tommy Christopher10:04PMMar 24th 2008
Tom, LOL and you are quite right.
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tzada2:55PMMar 24th 2008
Not a typical Hillary supporter nor an Obama one......Not their supporters at all, typical or not.
What I do like are facts. Not all Obama supporters are black, not all Hillary supporters are white. Both of these candidates lie. Do their supporters as well?
Pulling up images in Google I found a comedian named Sinbad. You can go there too. Is Sinbad an Obama man?
Is blood thicker than water? Is his slant on things color blind or blinded by color?
How important is the Sinbad/Clinton Bosnia happening? Not so much maybe, but then there is not so many votes difference in these twos delegate counts. This whole race has been smoke and mirrors and tilting.