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McCain Stood by David Duke in '90, Still Does
The Huffington Post is reporting that, despite his recent rash of qualms over decades-old civil rights issues, John McCain is standing by at least one of them:In 1990, McCain was one of the deciding votes in helping then-President George H.W. Bush sustain a veto against the relatively benign Civil Rights Act of 1990.
In doing so, the senator found himself at odds with majorities in both chambers of Congress, most senior African Americans within the Bush administration, and the Republican-led U.S. Civil Rights Commission. He also helped Bush became the first president ever to successfully veto a civil rights measure -- Andrew Johnson in 1866 and Ronald Reagan in 1988 both had vetoes overridden.
On its own, McCain's defense that he simply doesn't believe in quotas is barely there, since the bill did not establish quotas, but rather required employers to demonstrate a "business necessity" to screen out applicants based on race or gender. That's like saying manslaughter statutes create quotas of people that you can't kill.
Coupled with the aforementioned late and/or partial epiphanies on race and civil rights issues, and the whole thing gets uncomfortable. Hard to chalk this up to a lack of expertise, like with the economy.
Of course, the part of this story that best illustrates how McCain constantly finds himself on the wrong side of these issues is this:
When a motion to override the veto came to the Senate floor, there was question as to whether it would receive the 67 votes needed to pass. The environment was so charged that white supremacist David Duke watched from one section of the Senate gallery while civil rights leader Jesse Jackson stood briefly at the chamber's other end.If you're standing shoulder-to-shoulder with David Duke on civil rights, maybe you ought to re-read that bill. Given 18 years to think about it, you ought to be able to take a few steps away from him.
Here's hoping that President McCain will have the good sense to hire someone who is an expert on civil rights, since based on his current timetable, he'll figure this one out by the end of his second term.
Recent Comments
(Page 1 of 3)Tom5:22PMApr 14th 2008
with a name like mad maggie and the diatribe you render here me thinks you ought to reconsider who need the help of a pychiatrist
Rob5:23PMApr 14th 2008
With Rev . Wright's messages ....White America was not hit hard enough , The chicken's have come home to roost ...Anyone would ..Check this Out Will take Obame down overnight...www.savagepolitics.com
Old Lady USA5:27PMApr 14th 2008
Yikes !!! I thought we had enough to worry about with Annie's gun going off at will... this makes this past weekend look REALY silly.
Thanks for the heads up Tommy.
tzada5:33PMApr 14th 2008
Kinda a provocative headline, Tommy. McCain Stood by David Duke in '90, Still Does. Plenty misleading too.
Shoulder to shoulder? That's like saying if Ted Bundy liked roast beef and you like roast beef you are shoulder to shoulder? Am I missing an important point?
Lots of whites don't like Duke any more than blacks do, but you are attempting to paint McCain with the same brush?
Whats with the Civil Rights stuff? What rights don't blacks have that whites do? Blacks have more rights than whites. Because they are both white? Or because McCain won't pander to blacks and apologize for slavery? You still on that high horse Tommy?
Winston Churchill warned when he took over government in 1940: "If we open a quarrel between the past and the present, we shall find that we have lost the future."
You Sir, are attempting to reignite things. A true foot soldier of Obama with his devision tactics.
Methinks some blacks will never be satisfied until they are whippin whitey in the fields.
I am gonna tell you. I have planted tobacco, hoed it, cropped it, strung it up, put it in the barn, unloaded that barn, graded it and went to the market with it. Handle it, I can.
But before I hit that field again you, Obama and Rev Snuff gots to get our guns first. Us bitter Bible thumpers with our guns. Us uneducated bitter people with our guns.
Fito Villa5:47PMApr 14th 2008
McSAME IS ARROGANT, SELFISH, AND DENIES AMERICANS THE RIGHT TO BE GOVERNED BY A YOUNG, VIBRANT, LEADER WITH NEW IDEAS THAT WOULD CHANGE THE FAILED COURSE WE ARE ON.
Celia5:52PMApr 14th 2008
Rob: Everyone lknows Michifel Savage is a racist. That makes anything posted on his site bulshi*.
tzada6:14PMApr 14th 2008
U.S. Rep. Geoff Davis, a Hebron Republican, compared Obama and his message for change similar to a "snake oil salesman" [at a Northern Kentucky Lincoln Day dinner].
He said in his remarks at the GOP dinner that he also recently participated in a "highly classified, national security simulation" with Obama.
"I'm going to tell you something: That boy's finger does not need to be on the button," Davis said. "He could not make a decision in that simulation that related to a nuclear threat to this country."
Victor6:47PMApr 14th 2008
Tommy Christopher,
You are a liberial piece of crap. You should be fired for making a fause claim. AS for all you liberial Obama and Hillary supporters you people make me sick with all your stupid liberial remarks. If this country goe's down it's because of a garbage like you and your beloved Obama or Clinton. We have only one chance McCain 08....
Zo7:01PMApr 14th 2008
Victor6:47PMApr 14th 2008
Tommy Christopher,
You are a liberial piece of crap. You should be fired for making a fause claim. AS for all you liberial Obama and Hillary supporters you people make me sick with all your stupid liberial remarks. If this country goe's down it's because of a garbage like you and your beloved Obama or Clinton. We have only one chance McCain 08....
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The country can't go any further down thanks to the republicans. I can't believe people would vote for a man like this. What false claim did he make. McCain voted the same way david duke was voting. A man that we know was apart of the KKK.
1) McCain had never heard of Martin Luther King's (the greatest american ever) accomplishments prior to 1990.
2) He vetoed a civil rights bill. How racist can you be.
3) He is still living in the 1960's hen blacks did not have to many right.
4) I would not be surprised if he tried to take the right to vote away from blacks.
McCain is the true racist in this race. You can only blame yourself if you elect him and a race riot starts.
Zo7:01PMApr 14th 2008
Victor6:47PMApr 14th 2008
Tommy Christopher,
You are a liberial piece of crap. You should be fired for making a fause claim. AS for all you liberial Obama and Hillary supporters you people make me sick with all your stupid liberial remarks. If this country goe's down it's because of a garbage like you and your beloved Obama or Clinton. We have only one chance McCain 08....
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The country can't go any further down thanks to the republicans. I can't believe people would vote for a man like this. What false claim did he make. McCain voted the same way david duke was voting. A man that we know was apart of the KKK.
1) McCain had never heard of Martin Luther King's (the greatest american ever) accomplishments prior to 1990.
2) He vetoed a civil rights bill. How racist can you be.
3) He is still living in the 1960's hen blacks did not have to many right.
4) I would not be surprised if he tried to take the right to vote away from blacks.
McCain is the true racist in this race. You can only blame yourself if you elect him and a race riot starts.
Splash7:26PMApr 14th 2008
Just because a senator doesn't vote for a civil rights bill, does not mean he is a David Duke fan. David Duke stood against EVERY civil rights bill, good and bad. Under this flawed logic you could never oppose a Civil rights bill... or a crime bill ... or an energy bill ... or a ...
It's not like McCain attended weekly KKK meetings and is now saying he never heard the racial epitaphs coming from the men in sheets.
Let's face it, there is usually one side or the other in congress that is going to see a bill on the floor as bad law. That's the two party system. You can't vote for a law just by it's title. Remember the guff Hillary got for not actually reading (or knowing) what was in the intel reports when she voted to give the president authority to use force in Iraq?
I remember the debate on this civil rights bill and the sustaining of the veto and the main crux of the disagreement WAS quotas. Requiring "employers to demonstrate a "business necessity" to screen out applicants based on race or gender." is a quota. How else do you decide which businesses must 'demonstrate' but by their ratio of minorities in their workforce. Businesses would then be forced to keep a close eye on that ratio and, if it dips below normal, to screen out NON-minority applicants out of "business necessity"; so that the business doesn't get into legal trouble, or have to sustain a lengthy and expensive investigation (prompted by the NAACP or the AFLCIO) or to just avoid the bad publicity (because retractions, corrections and updates never make the front page). That, my fellow bloggers, is a quota.
When we send our congressmen to Washington we expect them to use their brain when representing us. If they vote for a bill just because of the category of legislation it falls under, then they are not doing their job.
In 1990, McCain was doing his job (so was Bush Sr), while Duke was opposing civil rights for its very sake, as usual.
What I really don't get about this column is the "Still Does" in the title. Nothing in the Tommy's opinion piece supports or even indicates that McCain currently "Stands By" David Duke. Unless Tommy means McCain still stands by the decision that he made on this bill in 1990, meaning standing against quotas. Is that what you meant, Tommy? Because, in that case, Duke and Jackson were only included to sensationalize your point.
tzada7:37PMApr 14th 2008
Zo I voted the same way you did for Obama. But we are on opposite ends of the spectrum. Black, white, man woman. Don't know what all else is different. But we are different, but thought alike once.
Don't you see? I now wish to not vote for Obama. Does that make me a racist?
What I got out of this from Tommy is woefully dim information. Duke was in the room, Jackson was in the room and McCain was in the room.
People can look at things differently and it doesn't make them all bad or racist. Just independent thinkers. Be a sad boring world if we all were clones.
But now you are threatening race riots? Why? You think it will scare whites into electing Obama? Will not scare me. You are the 5th Obama supporter to make threats of violence. Two were death threats.
Why do you want to elect someone who most probably is an Arab? Please tell me. Have you studied the roots of slavery? I really want to know. Not being nasty or snide or racist.
gstarr617:38PMApr 14th 2008
People, if you vote McCain, you're condoning and supporting racists beliefs. This country has got to move forward socially and Barrack is the best one who can get that ball rolling. Also, for the people who are making Rev Wright and Obama one and the same, move on because that tactic is old and tired. Hmmm, last I checked, Rev Wright is not running for President!
Splash7:46PMApr 14th 2008
Zo - Is that how you judge congressional performance, by who their vote was lined up with regardless of reason? What about how our enemies would vote? Could we use that as a measuring stick?
How would Osama, al Sadr, Zawahiri, Mahmoud Ahmajinedad vote on us staying in Iraq? How many liberals including both hopefuls would be "Standing By" them? Or do they just believe the war is wrong.
How would Hitler, Hamas and Hezbollah vote on a lot of Isreali issues? Would liberals, including Jimmy Carter, accept their fate of "Standing By" them? Or do they just simply see things a little differently than their congressional counterparts?
Remember, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.
tzada7:57PMApr 14th 2008
From Zo
1) McCain had never heard of Martin Luther King's (the greatest american ever) accomplishments prior to 1990
2) He vetoed a civil rights bill. How racist can you be.
3) He is still living in the 1960's hen blacks did not have to many right.
4) I would not be surprised if he tried to take the right to vote away from blacks.
You are heaping a lot of things on John McCain. Basic fact is this. Tommy is pissed over it tfitz is too. MCCain did not apologize for slavery. I won't either. We didn't do it No one alive was involved. End of story.
“Racism. Never precisely defined, but always brandished as a weapon of fear and intimidation to shut down debate. It permanently marks the accused with a stain that can never be removed.. To be labeled “racist” and have it stick is professional suicide and the death knell of one’s credibility, no matter how broad and sound one’s perspective may be.” Tim Murry Canadian Free Press
Well it won't work Tommy and Zo. After 20 years of Wright's church we know who is the racist.
Zo as long as you DON"T LET OBAMA TAKE OUR GUNS
you won't have to worry about #4.
Responding to Clinton’s speech about his bitter remarks…..about clinging to religion and GUNS.
Obama mocked Hillary’s affinity to “gun culture” while failing to inform his audience that he had once filed a questionnaire in 1996, advocating a ban on the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns
He also didn’t reveal that he was on the board of the Chicago-based Joyce Foundation, which takes an aggressive gun control position and in which he had considered (2001) becoming its full-time president
Obama also didn’t reference his audience to his own senatorial website, where he states that “the passage of legal protection for the gun industry would mark an enormous setback for gun control advocates and for leaders of cities such as Chicago, who have filed suit against gun dealers and manufacturers.”
Or, that he told the Chicago Tribune that “I believe we need to renew–not roll back–this common sense gun law,” referring to the 1994 AWB.
The whole sordid tale of Barack Obama keeps getting stranger and stranger. Let me introduce you to Rev. Pfleger another member of our Chicago “cast”
Rev. Michael Pfleger, is a Chicago Catholic priest at St. Sabina . They describe themselves as a "Bible-teaching" African-American Catholic Church.
Like Rev Wright his friend, Father Michael Pfleger has close ties to Barack Hussein Obama. Father Michael Pfleger's endorsement appears on Obama's faith endorsements page, where Jeremiah Wright's used to be... before he became too much of an embarrassment. http://faith.barackobama.com/page/content/faithtestimonials
With that kind of violent mindset and hateful rhetoric, it's no surprise that Father Michael Pfleger is so close to Louis Farrakhan. Or that he's used violent rhetoric when threatening critics of Obama. So Father Pfleger is out with a warning: "Do not touch this man," he says, "for if you do, you will answer to us all.
Pfleger has also defended the Nation of Islam repeatedly and insulted Jewish critics of NOI as "narrow minded" Father Michael Pfleger also invited Kareem Irfan, former chairman of the Council of Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago to speak on the anniversary of 9/11. Kareem Irfan is infamous for excusing beheadings by terrorists and is an ISNA member, a Saudi subsidized Wahhabi group with close ties to terrorism.
Splash8:04PMApr 14th 2008
gstarr61 -What a hypocrite you are. Try not t be so blatant; disguise it a little more.
Are you saying that McCain is a racist because of his 'association' with Duke?
Why, you speak as though McCain attended weekly KKK rallies, led by Duke, for twenty years and then denied that he was ever present for Duke's anti-black speech. Or is McCain saying that he could no more denounce Duke than his own 'typical' black mother?
Do you now accept the notion that associations do matter? Or is your candidate immune thanks to his association with you?
Splash8:07PMApr 14th 2008
Wow! This got fun PDQ!!
Splash8:11PMApr 14th 2008
tzada - you alright - for a white boy.
Tommy Christopher8:27PMApr 14th 2008
OL USA,
you're welcome. Spread the word!
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mad maggie5:17PMApr 14th 2008
This man is an outrage. Maverick...smaverick. He is so far to the right with his war-mongering, racial, for the wealthy, sexist, non-economic stances that he just might fall over. His pent-up anger is the worst of his vices. Terrorist are angry & they succeeded in attacking us on 9/11 & killing over 3000 Americans. McShames' mind is dark & dangrous. Wake up, American. He is not independant...he is directly tied to everything that we as citizens are sick and tired of. He does not stand for us. He is a wolf in sheep's clothing. And his uncontrollable anger will be the demise of us all. Cindy needs to seek the help of a Psychiatrist to get him medicated.