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Obama and 'Post-Birth Abortion'
WaPo leads its political section today with news that Sen. Barack Obama has picked up key Democratic, pro-life endorsements. Sen. Robert Casey (Pa.) and former congressman Timothy Roemer (Ind.), influential pro-life anomalies in the Democratic party, have surprisingly thrown in their lot with a candidate who has gone so far as to vote against the "Born Alive Infant Protection Act," a law requiring physicians to provide medical care to infants born alive during an attempted abortion.
While contending against Sen. Hillary Clinton, Obama's pro-life record has not been of much significance. However, in the general election, Sen. John McCain may energize and win over reticent pro-lifers - not as a result of McCain's stellar pro-life legacy, but out of a shocked repulsion at Obama's extremism.
Just as the horror of partial-birth abortion has previously energized the pro-life movement, Obama's infanticidal support of "Post-Birth Abortion" may arise as a rallying cry in the looming general election. It stretches credibility when a person who believes that abortion extends beyond birth complains that "the [abortion] debate got so polarized that both sides tended to exaggerate the other side's positions." How does one possibly exaggerate a position such as Obama's?
Recent Comments
(Page 1 of 2)PA Voter2:17PMApr 14th 2008
I'll take Obama and his abortion ideas before I would cast a vote for a crook like Hillary Clinton.
Last Word2:20PMApr 14th 2008
The current attack on Obama for his words on some people in small towns being bitter is right on the mark. If we want to get our government back we have to elect a person of principle that will address the situations that are taboo to most inside the beltway politicians like Hillary Clinton.
Rob2:20PMApr 14th 2008
Type youtube :/ OBAMA LIES TO AMERICA ...Like his church website say's ....His committment is to Africa.....Not the us KKK of A
Concerned2:22PMApr 14th 2008
I'm still trying to figure out how a Hillary $1,000 investment in cattle futures turned into $100,000 overnight. Can you spell stock fraud?
tzada2:23PMApr 14th 2008
He is disgusting.
PA Voter2:24PMApr 14th 2008
To: Rob2:20PMApr 14th 2008
I'm here to tell you that there is life beyond YouTube.
eddie900272:35PMApr 14th 2008
I have long been an advocate of the absolute right of women to choose. However, live births are an issue which needs much more exposure. How widespread is the practice? What is the medical condition of such infants? What is their prognosis for any kind of "normal life?"
David S.2:37PMApr 14th 2008
Last I checked, abortion is legal. If elected Republicans are so against abortion of all kinds, how come none of them say that? Outside of Mike Huckabee, not one Republican running for office has called for a total abortion ban. Not one!
Again, if you truly believe all abortion is murder, say so. If you believe in your heart it is murder, then you should be giving rousing speeches saying to overturn Roe v. Wade and make it illegal throughout the country.
The day women who have had abortions are charged with murder and hauled out in front of judges in shackles and orange jump suits, that will be the day the Republican party will be finished.
And don't think they don't know that. That is why most of them simply pay lip service to the issue.
Disgruntled2:41PMApr 14th 2008
To: LYSSABELLE1:31PMApr 14th 2008
You forgot a few important facts about the Clintons:
FW: THINK ABOUT IT FIRST
All of these folks are indeed dead and it might all just be a tragic coincidence--- But I wouldn't want to be on their list of associates (just to be on the safe side)!!!!!!!!!!!
SO NOW YOU MIGHT VOTE FOR HILLARY? THINK ABOUT IT FIRST......
This is what happens when you have dirt on the Clintons :
1 - James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3 - Vince Foster - Former white House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.
5 - C. Victor Raiser II and Montgomery Raiser, Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992... Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor."
7- Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11- Kathy Ferguson, ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16 - Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno three weeks before his death
19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guarantee scandal.
20 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21- Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee, died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23 - Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas, death was no accident.
24 - Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guarantee. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27 - Kevin Ives and Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the two boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.
29 - Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
33 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes."
34 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
35 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD: 36 - Major William S. Barkley Jr. 37 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds 38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley 39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel 40 - Major General William Robertson 41 - Col. William Densberger 42 - Col. Robert Kelly 43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes 44 - Steve Willis 45 - Robert Williams 46 - Conway LeBleu 47 - Todd McKeehan
Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to anyone who might damage the Clinton machine
Enlightened2:52PMApr 14th 2008
Arianna Huffington: John McCain Should Go on Vacation, Hillary Clinton is Doing His Job for Him by cynically twisting Obama's comments about small town voters in a way that confirms every right-wing demagogic caricature of her own Party, Hillary Clinton has adopted the frames, lies, stereotypes and destructive clichés long embraced by the likes of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove. She has clearly decided that the road to victory runs through scorched earth. The question is, if she succeeds, what kind of Party will she be left to lead? She's burning down the village to save it -- or to prove that she would make the best fire chief. But the village won't be saved; only one house will be left standing. A house with room for just two occupants: Hill and Bill.
richard3:13PMApr 14th 2008
huffington post-------------------
You know, I just spent seven and a half years disagreeing with the administration that has given us an unprecedented military and economic mess. I saw it coming, it came, and in some ways it was worse, and promises to get worse, than I foresaw. I the course of these seven years, I have had my patriotism questioned and demeaned fairly often. I was even put in a book, as one of a hundred people who were hurting America. When I got into this book, my relatives worried that I would get shot by some rightwing nut, even though several of them were and are rightwing nuts themselves (and they carry guns). All this time, though, I considered myself a patriot and a loyal American because I was able to see the destruction that was being wreaked upon the nation, and in particular, upon the middle and working classes, by the Republican liars and war criminals and job outsourcers and health care destroyers and army wreckers and infrastructure ignorers and media whores and agriculture blackmailers (see this month's Vanity
Fair).
So now, Barack Obama tells the truth about conditions as we know them--that the countryside and the small towns are dying in many places in our country, and that the corporatocracy doesn't care enough to do a thing about it. He points out that immigrant-baiting, gay-baiting, gun-baiting, and religious pandering have helped to destroy those towns and that countryside, that those being destroyed have been cynically enlisted by their very own destroyers to provide the votes that help accomplish the destruction. And this is what Senator Hillary Clinton says about it: "Senator Obama's remarks were elitist and out of touch. They are not reflective of the values and beliefs of Americans."
From Senator Clinton's remarks, I infer that to actually see what has gone on in the US in the last 20 years is unAmerican. It doesn't matter who you are, where you were born, what you pay in taxes, what else you might have contributed to the culture, how you vote, who you support. If you don't support fundamentalist religion, job outsourcing, and free access to guns, then you are not even American.
I cannot believe how angry this makes me. I cannot believe that after the last seven and a half years, I can even get this angry. Yes, I know she is pandering to her audience. Yes, I know she will do anything to get elected. Yes, I know that she and Bill Clinton are corrupt to the core, and that I should have never expected anything better of her. But, please, any of you angry white women who still support this craven shill, don't mention it to me. Do me the following favor -- apologize to your children for not stopping the war that HIllary voted for, the war that is going to impoverish them. Then apologize to them for the effects of global warming that are going to make their lives hell. Then apologize to them for the school shooting they may someday see, the one where the kid gets the guns out of his father's gun case, or buys at a gunshow. Apologize to them for the meaningless wars they are going to fight and pay for. Then tell them that "American values" killed their hopes and maybe killed them. And ask them if they think it's going to be worth it.
Peggy3:19PMApr 14th 2008
Even as Sen Obama is trying to explain away his comments in San Francisco last week by saying they were taken out of context, poorly worded, misunderstood and heaven knows what other reasons, his wife is helping all she can. Note the following:
Mrs. Obama's most recent foray into the political wilderness is in response to the unexpected excitement caused by her husband's unfortunate condescension of bitter, gun-totting, Bible-thumpin' country bigots in Pennsylvania. Michelle, by way of defending her husband, imparted such gems of wisdom and revelation as:
"We live in isolation, and because of that isolation we fear one another."
"Because Barack Obama is the only person in this race who understands that. That before we can work on the problems we have to fix our souls. Our souls are broken in this nation."
"Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual; uninvolved, uninformed."
Once again, the Michelle has let us know that her husband is better than we are, smarter than we are and definitely has the high moral ground. If he is our president, my concern is we won't be able to live up to his high standards. What happens then? Mandatory religious education, trade guns for bibles or we go to jail. Shame on all of us who don't appreciate how he is trying to save us from ourselves.
OpenYourBlindEye083:20PMApr 14th 2008
When Obama speaks it is pearls of wisdom that the rest of us just "don't get" yet. But he knows the San Francisco Millionaire/Billionaires do by slamming the lower income and middle class that keep drinking in his BS. He picked up a cool $4MM for three stops over a weekend, hardly the $25, $50 donations he loves to talk about.
I'm sure Arianna was in the crowd.
Whowrotethis?3:22PMApr 14th 2008
Obama's mother should have had an abortion.
TJ3:23PMApr 14th 2008
I DO NOT THINK THAT ANY OF THE BLIND OBAMA FOLLOWERS EVEN STOP TO THINK OF WHO THEY ARE ENDORSING IN OBAMA.
ITS ALL ABOUT WOMEN-HATING, BLIND POLITICAL STRATEGIZING.
CASEY SEEMS HE HAS NO CLUE.
THE ELITIST MEDIA SAYS THEY HAVE CLINOTN FATIGUE
WELL, THE REST OF THE COUNTRY DO NOT HAVE CLINTON FATIGUE.
BILL CLINTON IS THE ONLY WHO HAS DELIVERED IN A LONG TIME. WE DO NOT HAVE CLINTON FATIGUE.
THIS ISNT ACTING- THIS IS REAL LIFE.
OBAMA HAS NOTHING BUT ORIGINALITY OR CHANGAMANIA IN NOTHING.
THEY WANT A RETURN TO THE HIppiE 1960s.
TJ3:31PMApr 14th 2008
I think "celestial choirs" are beginning to sing for Obama supporters again.
They have no clue who Obama is.
You want to turn this around by bullying Hillary Clinton, you are all just seeing things like Obama...
Delusional cult members led by a bully.
Take no responsibilities!
Bully us, Obama , just bully us
Never apologize, Obama!!
Your mistakes are our faults.
Bully!! Bully! Bully!!
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JimM3:43PMApr 14th 2008
Onan says, "Words do matter." I am taking his words for that.
So ponder this.
I guess what was missing in Obama's Harvard University schooling was learning how to say what you mean.
Least ways Obama says he could have said it better.
I guess what was missing from Obama's experiences were living in a small town so he could appreciate their values.
I guess what is missing from Obama's judgment is when to keep your mouth shut.
I guess what is missing in Obama's speeches/sermons about change is some things should not be changed.
I guess what is missing in Obama's speech about "clinging to religion" is his reasons for clinging to his church.
I guess what is missing from Obama's view of constitutional rights is that people have the right to keep and bear arms.
I guess what is missing from Obama's ... and the list goes on.
tedman184:23PMApr 14th 2008
HELP - Please comment quickly -
I jus did the same on anothe Justin Pauletter Blog on AOL dated 4-14
This one above - so dated as well - says
Today - Washington Post - Casey Endorses BO
Is this not the dude who endorsed BO about 10 days ago or more - saying his four kids convinced him he needed to do so?
Will someone please help with the time warp
I am one who will vote DEM or DEM - but prefer the faults of HRC over the faults of BO
But what is going on? Is AOL digging up past blogs and re dating them for today April 14
I really feel like I am in a time warp
HELP -
1VOTE4:48PMApr 14th 2008
OBAMA AND HIS ANTI-AMERICAN WIFE SHOULD BE ASHAMED! SHE NEEDED MORE "WHITE" PEOPLE. HE NEEDS MORE "DUMB" PEOPLE!
THIS JUST IN: “WE NEED MORE DUMB PEOPLE”
OBAMA IS FORMING THE BACKDROP FOR HIS NOVEMBER ASPIRATIONS: 5 YELLOW PEOPLE, 4 BROWN PEOPLE, 20 WHITE PEOPLE, 1 BLACK PERSON, 4 GREEN PEOPLE, 20 PURPLE PEOPLE AND 55 “MILLION” DUMB PEOPLE REQUIRED.
THE OBAMA COMMITTEE WILL MOVE PEOPLE AROUND FROM WHERE THEY WERE SITTING TO HAVE MORE “DUMB” PEOPLE IN THE FRONT ROW, SITTING DIRECTLY BEHIND OBAMA, TO CHEER HIM ON.
OBAMA, MICHELLE, PELOSI, DEAN, REID, KENNEDY, KERRY AND JEREMIAH WRIGHT ARE STUCK ON STUPID!
DON’T YOU JUST LOVE IT!
HILLARY 2008!
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LYSSABELLE1:31PMApr 14th 2008
Remember the shame the Clinton's brought to this nation with all their scandals.
lies and dirty politics...People must remember...:
Whitewater,
Cattlegate,
Travelgate,
Billing-gate,
Castle Grande,
Filegate , Vincent Foster mysterious death..
Paula Jones,
Gennifer Flowers
MonikaLewinski The Haiti Links../military action to send Aristide back Aristice & HillaryTeleco Deal unde rname Rodman.
Crowked heavy deals in their tax retrurn.
The Lincolm bedrooms bussiness=rent $25.000 a night.
The Ronald Brown trip to Bosnia... so call accident The Dubai strange deals...
Dirty politics till the bitter fatal end...Failed trade Bush policies
other scandals their records hold...It’s time for a new direction for this nation. Enough of the Clinton and their heavy baggages full of lies, flatteries..misleadings,& false promises....
OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICANS...HILARY IS A BIG LIE...gotothe Justice dept. and look at the records...you will beconvinced and horrified....HILARY ONLY KNOW3S HILARY...BE AWARE....
GOD BLESS AMERICA,OBAMA FOR A BETTER AMERICA...