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North Carolina Results Live Thread
By Tommy ChristopherMay 6th 2008 10:35PM
Filed Under:eHillary Clinton, Democrats, Barack Obama, Breaking News, Ron Paul, Primaries, 2008 President
0:10AM OK, ladies and germs, I'll be signing off now. Thanks for joining me. Keep talking, and I'll check back here tomorrow. Kat, you hang in there, and don't let anybody rub it in. O, it's time to make nice. Tom, John, nice commentary tonight. MG, so quiet tonight. Diana says "hi!"
Russert just compared Hillary to an aging ballplayer, an analogy I thought of earlier. I hope tomorrow is Hillary's "Lou Gehrig Day," and not the start of a "Vegas Elvis" phase, to mix a metaphor. Good night, everybody!
11:33PM OK, I don't think much is going to change in NC. I closing, I was just talking to Diana, and we agreed that it looks like the Supes will fall to Obama, and I was saying, "Yeah, but the wild card here is that they're Democrats, y'know?" and she said, "Yeah, they could spoil a wet dream."
Funny, and true. The herd of cats needs to get its stuff together quickly and not let Hillary twist in the wind. They need to announce the ticket quickly.
11:02PM That's more like it! I just got an email from the Clinton Press Office. A memo called "Tie-breaker," a very long one.
10:58PM Famous last words:
On May 2, Hillary told a rally in Kinston, NC the following:
"This primary election on Tuesday is a game changer. This is going to make a huge difference in what happens going forward. The entire country--probably even a lot of the world is looking to see what North Carolina decides."
10:56PM Classy speech. It reminded me of her Texas speech after South Carolina.
10:55PM NC is at 56-42 for Obama.
10:53PM Another shift in rationale: Now, Red states matter.
10:52PM Chelsea!!!... Doesn't this sound like a curtain call?
10:49PM Evan Bayh is another guy who didn't call me back today. Does anyone still care what Rendell's press secretary told me?
Today, Senators Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama face off in North Carolina and Indiana, with a total of 187 
delegates at stake. That number, 187, is also police code for a homicide. Will today's primaries result in a chalk outline around one or the other's candidacy? I'll also keep you updated on Operation: RonDemption.
As of this writing, according to the Real Clear Politics averages, Senator Obama holds a narrowed but comfortable 8 point lead in North Carolina, while Senator Clinton is up by 2.2 points, but trending sharply upward in recent days. Check back here periodically, as I try to get some internal polling data from the campaigns.
I'll be back at 7pm or earlier to spend primary night with you, as we get the answer to that question. I will be spending much of my day today trying to bug as many political players as I can, so hopefully, I will have some stories to tell while we wait for the results to come in. My hunch is that we will exit this day the way we entered it, with both candidates on a collision course in Denver. Talk it over, and I'll see you tonight.
Correction: I will be handling results from North Carolina, and my colleague, Liza Porteus Viana will handle Indiana. See you at 7. Full text of the thread after the jump, updates here:
10:48PM Hey, MG, nice of you to show up! And hi, Alicia, did you take any pictures? Tom, go easy. She's our next VP.
10:40PM NC has closed to a 14% margin with 85% of precincts reporting.
10:38PM She's calling Indiana the tie-breaker, and says it's "full-speed on to the White House."
10:37PM Hillary speaks. There's Chelsea! (squeal)
10:34PM Brian Williams just said someone reported Senator Clinton looking wistful, and speculated about th possibility of late internal polling. I wil say this, the silence from the Clinton press office via email is deafening. Usually, they out-spam the Obama camp by 3 to 1, but I've gotten nothing tonight, and 4 from the Obama camp.
10:26PM Hillary's speech may hold some clues as to what's next. Back to the gas tax, I finally got a partial answer to my follow-up question from last Thursday. My email exchange with Howard Wolfson:
Tommy Christopher: I wanted to follow up on John Dickerson's question. He asked if you could produce any independent experts who think that the gas tax holiday is a good idea, and you could not. You said, essentially, that a President listens to experts and then acts, in this case ignoring all of them. How would you differentiate that from something like George W Bush and the Iraq Study Group?
Howard Wolfson: Tommy, Would you really equate a suspension of the gas tax holiday with a decision to go to war?
Tommy Christopher: Howard, no, I would equate ignoring a unanimity of expert opinion in both cases under the cloak of being "resolute" or "decisive. Phil seemed to be saying that if a president thinks something is the right thing to do, he or she can ignore all advice or opinion to the contrary. That is exactly what President Bush did with the Iraq study group. I'm asking what the difference in that thought process is?
He hasn't answered me back yet.
10:22PM Howard Fineman reports that the Obama camp is signaling a willingness to deal on Mi and Fl.
10:19PM From Bill Burton, Obama spokesman, via email:
According to the latest exit polling data, 17% of voters in the Indiana primary today said they would vote for John McCain in a Clinton/McCain matchup.
41% of that number is constituted by people who voted Clinton in the primary but also indicated they will vote for McCain in the general election.
That comes out to just under 7% of the primary electorate the number that may be attributed to a "Limbaugh Effect."
10:04PM I think what's happened tonight is that the Clinton campaign way overplayed their hand with this gas tax holiday. I was really taken aback Thursday at Phil Singer's response to John Dickerson, and then Hillary doubled down on This Week, then again with their last ads in this primary. I think enough voters saw the disconnect between all of the experts vs. what amounted to a roll of the dice for chump change, and felt they were having their intelligence insulted.
10:02PM Kat, whatever it is, don't you worry about it. Just remember how cool Karl Rove, et al, were going into the mid-terms.
9:55PM I'm watching the speech now. He seems to be working on keeping the joint ticket idea alive. I would not be surprised if they announced the whole ticket this week. The more I think about it, the better an idea it is, it's a great way for Hillary to save face, and it ends the distraction.
9:44PM The Clinton campaign blew it a little on the expectations game, high-stepping the last few days when the polls tightened. That's a rare miscalculation for them.
9:42PM Sorry, I had to go pick my son up from school. I'm sure that happens to Keith Olbermann all the time. Holy crap, look at Indiana!
9:03PM The best move now would be for Barack and Hillary to announce their joint ticket tomorrow. Don't let the sting of this fight linger. I hope Obama is smart enough to do it, and Hillary realistic enough.
9:02PM Even if Hillary is not ready to concede, which I don't think she will, the pressure to drop out will be enormous.
9:00PM The way things are going, I think this is going to be it. Hi, O!!
8:53PM Kat, I did a piece recently with the voter ID stats in it, I think there are more Dems, but the biggest growth was in Indies. I'll try to track it down.
8:50PM Chuck Todd is talking about the possibility of an upset in Indy. With the crushing victory in NC, it looks really bad for Hillary. Now, what does she do if these results hold, and an avalanche of Supes go to Obama this week? I honestly don't know. The scrap and tenacity of Hillary Clinton is amazing.
8:44PM Not to encroach on Liza, but IN is narrowing, and if Tom F is right and the metro areas still haven't reported, that trend will continue. A 28 point victory in NC vs a single digit one for Hillary in IN will make for compelling breakfast reading for Supes tomorrow.
8:41PM 63-35 with 15%. Exits from NBC on Limbaugh: Party Affiliation 67% dem, 22 Indy, 11 Republican. Of Republicans, 52% Clinton 48% Obama, and 58% of them think Obama is more likely to beat McCain. They missed the memo that the Dittos lie to pollsters.
8:36PM I wonder if the Clinton campaign's crowing about getting uneducated voters is backfiring, with people in that demo not seeing themselves that way.
8:34PM NBC reports 11% of the votes in IN were GOP, with the vote split 51-48. Of course, Rush has told his dittoheads to lie to exit pollsters.
8:29PM The Obama camp sent out this link to the press on the Rush Limbaugh Operation:Chaos effect. Definite D move.
8:27PM John, Kaflooey, put your IQ's away, this is a family thread!
8:24PM Indiana is narrowing as North Carolina remains a 30 point route. If these numbers hold, or even close, this could be done by the end of the week.
8:23PM Kat, I'm hurt. You're calling me moot? John, Tzada, hi. FYI, Diana is without computer tonight, but is feeding me CNN's exits via text message. Thanks, Di!
8:17PM 65-33 with 8%. There are 115 delegates at stake here, vs 72 in Indiana, so this is the place to score the big victory. With 92
% of the black vote, expect Hillary's supporters to cry "identity politics," but the campaign has been coding its message heavily toward white voters for some time now.
8:09PM Matthews wonders if the "Limbaugh Effect" will taint Clinton's margin in IN. Good question, a bit self-fulfilling though.
8:08PM I'm going to check comments now. Hi, Kat, Tom, Kaflooey...
8:06PM With 4% reporting, NC is 65-35% for Obama.
8:00PM They're asking how many of Hillary's white voters will go to McCain if Obama is the nominee. I think that question has a much different answer once the Dems start campaigning against McCain and people see the differences more clearly.
7:58PM Very early returns have a 64-34 margin for Obama in NC. No way that holds up.
7:55PM Clinton 63% of white women, 54% of white men.
7:51PM Exit polls: 91% of the black vote for Obama, 36% of the white vote, 54% of white voters under age 30. Hillary got 61% of the over 30 whites.
7:48PM Operation:RonDemption is flattening out, with most of the buzz dying down today. I called the Paul campaign today to see where they are with it, but I haven't heard back yet. My right bicep might be safe after all.
7:45PM Scarborough is spinning hard for Obama. Although Hillary needed a sweep to really change things, a big delegate win in NC could start the SuperDelegate dominoes falling tomorrow, and the whole thing could be over by week's end.
7:41PM Chris Matthews just compared the saturation Wright coverage to a baptism. Not a bad metaphor.
7:39PM In NC, voters concerned most about the economy favored Obama 53%-44%.
7:37PM Obama is expected to get at least 36% of the white vote in NC, according to NBC's exit polls.
7:36PM The early call bodes well for the margin in NC.
7:31PM The question now is, by how much? Avoiding a stunning loss there must be something of a relief to the Obama campaign, but the margin will play a big part in the spin battle.
7:30PM MSNBC projects Obama to win North Carolina.
7:28PM Back to Rendell. I asked, if the gas tax issue is such a great cause that Senator Clinton would ignore all of the experts, and trumpet it as a sign of her commitment to working class voters in Indiana, why is it not in the Oregon ads?
7:19PM CNN's exit polls make a strong case for a joint ticket. 45% of Hillary voters say they'll support Barack if he's the nominee, versus 70% of Obama voters saying they'd support Clinton if she is the nominee. 55% of Hillary's voters is a big bloc to pass up. I guess it's easier to be generous when you're winning.
7:09PM My doctor emailed me an article that keeps crap like Reverend Wright and gas tax holidays in perspective.
"Suicides among troops returning from Iraq and Afghanistan may eventually outnumber combat deaths, a top federal mental health official said."
7:07PM All the charisma just whooshed out of the room! Oh, wait, it's just John Kerry.
7:04PM I would like to see some exit polling on the gas tax holiday.
7:00PM I asked Howard Wolfson about the new ad on Monday's conference call, whether the omission meant that they were re-thinking the policy or did they think it would already be enacted by then. The response was, "Neither. We expect to continue talking about the gas tax holiday in upcoming contests."
6:55PM I pretty much struck out today getting players on the phone. I did speak with Governor Ed Rendell's press secretary, Chuck Ardo. I wanted to talk with Rendell about the gas tax holiday and the fact that it doesn't appear in the new ads running in Oregon.
6:48PM Yes, I started early. Any of you who want to play along, I'm keeping it on MSNBC unless otherwise noted.
6:48PM Yes, I started early.
6:26PM According to MSNBC's exit polls, 48% of voters in NC thought the Reverend Wright situation was important to them, including 45% of black voters. Polls close in NC at 7:30.
Rachel Maddow says that Hillary could make a case to the SuperDelegates to decide on her now if she sweeps tonight.
I love Rachel, but I don't see the Supes overturning the pledged delegates without more cover than "momentum." To be sure, a sweep by Clinton would hurt Obama badly.
Recent Comments
(Page 1 of 8)Desi12:49PMMay 6th 2008
Democrat in November is all I know.
Anyother leadership would be more of the same.
Vote Democrat.
Brutuss1001:05PMMay 6th 2008
Obama can't do anything right if it's not first rehearsed, or planned.
It seems to me that the Democratic Party decided a long time ago that Obama was going to be the nominee no matter what that dummass does. They believe [or have been strongly convinced by none other than black special interest groups... tada] that if they don't put Obama in the nomination seat that there will be an uprise in the black communities... are they wrong? It seems to me that everyone is bitching about "what if they TAKE the nomination from Obama?" Well I say, "that's no different than HANDING it to him if he doesn't deserve it, or even worse, just because he's half-black"
During these crisis times for Obama, Superdelegates are backing Obama. Why? And I 'm not talking about the bullshit from Obama supporters. Andrews [from Indiana] doesn't even know Obama; has spoken to him only a couple times. Yet he moves to Obama during his worst week of the campaign, and just before the Primary in Indiana. Why? Because the DEMS see that Hillary could win this thing and they are in a panic to sway the voters back toward Obama. If this was a white candidate pulling this crap, they would have hung him out to dry a long time ago. Lose the Black Vote? YES they are afraid, but not of losing the black vote.... they're afraid, like Al Sharpton has threatened, of riots, and demonstrations, and fires and all sorts of other uncivilized-animalistic behaviors. Look.... prejudice is prejudice...
Taking the nomination from Obama is just as Messed-Up as giving it to him. Obama's wife now has to attend his side from now on to make sure he doesn't screw up again [like his interview with Katie Curic]. Michelle Obama actually cut him off in mid-sentence to answer a question FOR him. If this guy can't handle his pastor OR his wife... damn! How can ANYONE say he can run a country. She's gonna take control of all of this, because she doesn't have faith that he can do it right. She's gonna micro-manage his campaign now, because NOBODY'S GONNA RUIN HER CHANCE OF GETTING INTO THE WHITE HOUSE.
Ms Obama... why are you talking? He's running for Pres, not you. Besides you worked with William Ayer's wife/girlfriend for a couple years at that lawfirm of yours after she was released on bail. (don't believe it, look up Bernadine Dohrn) How do we know that's not why you introduced your husband to the Ayers couple shortly afterwards? [Or maybe that's just what we're SUPPOSED to believe]
mozell1:35PMMay 6th 2008
Obama has done nothing that many Americans have not done. He is not perfect any more than other Americans. He is human just like All Americans are. Yet, so many act as if he is God. Only Jesus was perfect. Americans are not perfect. A person at age 30 is not as wise as a person at age 50. Grow up Americans. Look at your self and your life. Stop being so judgmental. That is God's responsibility not yours.
jayelee3211:45PMMay 6th 2008
Please vote for Barack Obama. My adult children are depending on you!
PETER PAUL vs THE CLINTONS1:46PMMay 6th 2008
IT'S INTERESTING. I HEAR THAT THE PETER PAUL VS CLINTON CASE WILL BE HEARD IN NOVEMBER.
PARMA232:09PMMay 6th 2008
super delegates had better pay close attention to the numbers tonight
CONCERNED2:17PMMay 6th 2008
WILL OBAMA REALLY TELL MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THEY DON’T COUNT?
MICHIGAN HAS ANOTHER ELECTION IN AUGUST --- THE DNC NEEDS TO PUT OBAMA AND CLINTON ON THE MICHIGAN TICKET!
IF OBAMA DOES NOT AGREE TO THIS --- HE WILL BE TELL ING MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT THEY DON’T COUNT!
OBAMA ONLY CARES ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS.
HE WAS ON THE FLORIDA BALLOT. COUNT FLORIDA’S VOTES.
IF OBAMA DOES NOT AGREE TO THIS --- THEN HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN.
WE HAVE 50 STATES. LET ALL OF AMERICAN'S VOTES COUNT.
COME NOVEMBER, WE'LL SEE A NEW SET OF RULES --- THE BIASED MEDIA AND THE DNCCAN'T PROTECT THE GOLDEN BOY FOREVER!
IF OUR DELEGATES IGNORE OUR “VOICES” AND DON'T SPEAK FOR US --- VOTE THEM OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. CLEAN OUT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO DON’T DO THEIR JOB!
VOTE COUNTRY --- NOT PARTY --- WE ARE AMERICANS FIRST!
Fed up American2:32PMMay 6th 2008
Lets not Blame Obama or any of the candidates Put the blame where it belongs Michigan and Florida broke the rules!!!!!!
fed up american2:33PMMay 6th 2008
INDIANA VOTE OBAMA 08
mobeatles2:42PMMay 6th 2008
Obama is way more presidential. He inspires me while Clinton comes off as pretentious. Please vote for Obama.
AMERICAN3:10PMMay 6th 2008
THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME FOR “HOWARD MOOOOOOO DEAN” AND “NANCY BAAAAAHH PELOSI” TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA. DON’T TELL MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THEY DON’T COUNT.
MICHIGAN HAS A VOTE COMING UP IN AUGUST --- ADD OBAMA AND HILLARY TO THE TICKET!
OF COURSE, THEY’RE GONNA WAIT AND SEND OBAMA HOUND DOGS TO DRIVE HILLARY OUT OF THE RACE FIRST.
OBAMA IS RESTING ON HIS LAURELS AND COMPLAINING ABOUT HILLARY.
WELL, THERE IS A PA COMING TO AN INDIANA AND NORTH CAROLINA NEAR YOU --- WE STILL HAVE MONTANA, SOUTH DAKOTA, WEST VIRGINIA AND OREGON.
THE MESSIAH IS DOWN IN THE MUD WITH JEREMIAH WRIGHT. OUR GIRL HILLARY IS SITTING PRETTY!
IF OUR DELEGATES AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS DON’T SPEAK OUR VOICES --- VOTE THEM ALL OUT!
AMERICAN3:12PMMay 6th 2008
I hear the Swift Boat bells a-ringing! It's music to my ears!
THINK ABOUT IT! Obama does have a lot of terrorist friends. DON'T FORGET 9/11, WRIGHT, AYERS, REZKO, HAMAS, FARRAKHAN AND MANY OTHERS!
We really don’t need a “former” Muslim, so-called “Christian” (ho attends an anti-American church, which spews "God Damn America" to its congregation), in the White House. OBAMA DENOUNCES WRIGHT AFTER HIS POLL NUMBERS DROP.
Obama's anti-American wife doesn’t qualify as a first lady.
Obama can’t make up his mind who he is --- and we don’t need him pushing the “button”! He is not a uniter. He does not have a political track record. He couldn’t answer tough questions in the debate, so now he’s making false promises.
COME NOVEMBER, WE'LL SEE A NEW SET OF RULES --- THE BIASED MEDIA CAN'T PROTECT THE GOLDEN BOY FOREVER!
Steven Bean3:29PMMay 6th 2008
All you Liberal's should hope Indiana and North Carolina voter's do the RIGHT THING and vote for Hillary today!!
Coz, if not, after the General Election in November, Barack Hussein and his "lovely" wife will have to return to Kenya to run for Goat Herder of The Year-it will be all that he can win!! He will not have to pretend to be a Christian anymore, he can return to his Muslim ways, as if he ever really left them!!!
Is it really true that Barack Hussein acused African-American parents of letting their children grow fat while "eating Popeye's chicken for breakfast" in early March, 2008 in Texas???? Would that be a Racial Slur if McCain or Clinton said it???
Also with all these "pick me up" basketball games that Barack is suddenly playing, to show that he is not an Elitist, can he actually make the baskets, or does the camera still pan away, just showing his shot attempt!! He couldn't even make the starting teams at the Ivy League Colleges that the American Tax Payer's sent him and his wife to for they're educations!!!
I'll bet he smells really "ripe", by the time he starts campaining again!!! Guess that is why some of his "supporter's" refer to him as B.O., right???? LOL. It's okay Mr Mulatto, Barry. The Goats and people in Kenya won't mind your smell, they are used to your family's smell there already!!!! Make sure that you take all of your frinds with you!!
NOBAMA 08 VOTE Hillary or McCain!!!
La Mano Fresco5:33PMMay 6th 2008
Age is just a number, mozell. Gaining wisdom is a process that involves much more than age. Plus, a concept as profound as wisdom does not deserve to be as simplified as you define it.
Y'know, why must you commenters simplify and sugarcoat everything? It's "Barack Hussein" this, "experience" that, and some "I hate the Clintons for being Clintons" thrown in for good measure.
And AMERICAN? "THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME FOR “HOWARD MOOOOOOO DEAN” AND “NANCY BAAAAAHH PELOSI” TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA. DON’T TELL MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THEY DON’T COUNT."? The issue, if you haven't been told, with Michigan and Florida is that their legislatures BROKE PRIMARY RULES. And the one time the Democrats show some sort of spine and actually enforce a position, you people bitch about it! Whether or not the voters deserve grace for the sins of their government is totally moot. This issue has nothing to do with them, quite frankly. That's the way it is, whether you like the sound of it or not.
The Democratic party needs to grow up big time, assuming that they want to be seen as "acting in good faith" ever again. Here's a slight sigh of hope to the possibility of it happening after tonight.
kevin5:48PMMay 6th 2008
katherine listen to you spin.....Hillary clinton had 73 documented campaign visits to north carolina..and obama only had 12 visits....If anything hillary should win nc by 20pts...but it looks like obama to win by 15pts...as far as indiana goes, it is a blue collar union working class state mostly which favors clinton and it is looking close... hillary out and out lied about ducking bullets in bosnia...an out and out lie that did not need to be said..it was needless.everybody knows she has more exp than obama..but,,,this shows us the poor ethics and integrity of this women..this is the 1st time i can remember a politician lie about something..they all exxagerate and mispeak and embellish..but she lied...do you want her as commander in chief?
CONCERNED6:55PMMay 6th 2008
WILL OBAMA REALLY TELL MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THEY DON’T COUNT?
MICHIGAN HAS ANOTHER VOTE IN AUGUST --- PUT OBAMA AND CLINTON ON THE MICHIGAN TICKET!
IF OBAMA DOES NOT AGREE TO THIS --- HE WILL BE TELLING MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT THEY DON’T COUNT!
OBAMA ONLY CARES ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS.
HE WAS ON THE FLORIDA BALLOT. COUNT FLORIDA’S VOTES.
IF OBAMA DOES NOT AGREE TO THIS --- THEN HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN.
WE HAVE 50 STATES. LET ALL OF AMERICAN'S VOTES COUNT.
COME NOVEMBER, WE'LL SEE A NEW SET OF RULES --- THE BIASED MEDIA AND THE DNCCAN'T PROTECT THE GOLDEN BOY FOREVER!
IF OUR DELEGATES IGNORE OUR “VOICES” AND DON'T SPEAK FOR US --- VOTE THEM OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. CLEAN OUT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO DON’T DO THEIR JOB!
VOTE COUNTRY --- NOT PARTY --- McCAIN OR HILLARY!
WE ARE AMERICANS FIRST!
CONCERNED6:56PMMay 6th 2008
WILL OBAMA REALLY TELL MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THEY DON’T COUNT?
MICHIGAN HAS ANOTHER VOTE IN AUGUST --- PUT OBAMA AND CLINTON ON THE MICHIGAN TICKET!
IF OBAMA DOES NOT AGREE TO THIS --- HE WILL BE TELLING MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT THEY DON’T COUNT!
OBAMA ONLY CARES ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS.
HE WAS ON THE FLORIDA BALLOT. COUNT FLORIDA’S VOTES.
IF OBAMA DOES NOT AGREE TO THIS --- THEN HE IS NOT AN AMERICAN.
WE HAVE 50 STATES. LET ALL OF AMERICAN'S VOTES COUNT.
COME NOVEMBER, WE'LL SEE A NEW SET OF RULES --- THE BIASED MEDIA AND THE DNCCAN'T PROTECT THE GOLDEN BOY FOREVER!
IF OUR DELEGATES IGNORE OUR “VOICES” AND DON'T SPEAK FOR US --- VOTE THEM OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. CLEAN OUT MEMBERS OF CONGRESS WHO DON’T DO THEIR JOB!
VOTE COUNTRY --- NOT PARTY --- McCAIN OR HILLARY!
WE ARE AMERICANS FIRST!
joedenver606:56PMMay 6th 2008
The truth is..............94% of black people in NC, are going to vote for obama, only 6% will vote for hillary.....what the hell does that tell you??....
CAROLINA7:09PMMay 6th 2008
THIS IS PROBABLY A GOOD TIME FOR “HOWARD MOOOOOOO DEAN” AND “NANCY BAAAAAHH PELOSI” TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA. DON’T TELL MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THEY DON’T COUNT.
MICHIGAN HAS A VOTE COMING UP IN AUGUST --- ADD OBAMA AND HILLARY TO THE TICKET!
OF COURSE, THEY’RE GONNA WAIT AND SEND OBAMA HOUND DOGS TO DRIVE HILLARY OUT OF THE RACE FIRST.
OBAMA IS RESTING ON HIS LAURELS AND COMPLAINING ABOUT HILLARY. DON’T FORGET 9/11, JEREMIAH WRIGHT, TONY REZKO, MALCOLM X, HAMAS, FARRAKHAN, AND MANY OTHER RADICAL ANTI-AMERICANS WHO ARE CONNECTED TO OBAMA.
THERE IS A PA COMING TO AN INDIANA AND NORTH CAROLINA NEAR YOU --- WE STILL HAVE MONTANA, SOUTH DAKOTA, WEST VIRGINIA AND OREGON.
THE MESSIAH IS DOWN IN THE MUD WITH JEREMIAH WRIGHT. OUR GIRL HILLARY IS SITTING PRETTY!
IF OUR DELEGATES AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS DON’T SPEAK “OUR VOICES” --- VOTE THEM ALL OUT!
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Katherine12:08PMMay 6th 2008
C'MON North Carolina and Indiana! Come out and vote for Hillary! :)
From what I can gather, most articles and polls seem to say that Obama is ahead in NC and it's close in Indiana. Is that still true?
-Here are a few things I also read:
NC:
Almost 1/3 black, and trends show that the majority of black registered democrats vote for Obama. College towns, as well as earthy crunchy areas might also lean to Obama. Hillary is being outspent by nearly 4 to 1 in some areas. I think about two weeks ago, Obama was leading in NC polls by 20%.-----If Hillary wins or even gets real close, I think it would be a wow moment.
Indiana:
Hillary is also being outspent by Obama by nearly 4 to 1 at times. Obama has a history of winning all states surrounding Illinois, and Indiana is the remaining state surrounding Illinois, so this will be interesting. 25% of Indiana receives it's news from Chicago, which is mainly Pro-Obama (I have no idea if Chicago has followed the Rezko trial in a big way). There are also pockets of strong black areas in Indiana, as well as college towns. Currently, Obama's camp has issued shuttles to deliver the college voters to voting sites. The traffic was so bad in another college area that the school allowed voting booths at their campus for two days.
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I hope Hillary does well!! Everybody in North Carolina and Indiana come out and vote for HILLARY!
xoxoxo