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Obama/Clinton Ticket: Be Afraid, John McCain
May 7th 2008 9:58AM
Filed Under:eHillary Clinton, Democrats, Barack Obama, Featured Stories, Veepstakes
Be afraid, John McCain. Be very afraid. 
I'm going to do a Joe Namath here and guarantee victory in November for President Obama and Vice President Clinton. In the past several days, every single regular voter that I've talked to has said that such a ticket is a guaranteed winner, and I'm inclined to agree. The hardest part of this election, some would argue, will be engineering that ticket. I disagree.
I wrote a piece back in March, or as it's known in campaign circles, The Paleolithic Era, making the case for a dream ticket. Check it out if you can, much of the analysis still holds true. One key, and discouraging, difference:
Jonathan Alter last night on Countdown floated the notion that the 32% of Hillary supporters who promise to flip to McCain will come to their senses by November, but he didn't address McCain's strong appeal to women voters. 32% of Hillary supporters is a large bloc, certainly large enough to swing the general election. Barack would be a fool to risk that. Conversely, Obama's mainly young supporters are less likely to actually stick with McCain, who does poorly with that demo.Exit polls last night showed that now, only 45% of Hillary voters would support an Obama-led ticket, as opposed to 70% of Obama voters who would have backed a Hillary nod. That's okay, I have the answer to that problem. If the Democrats are smart, and I know there's precious little evidence of that lately, they will...Updates: Comments from both campaigns at the end of the story. If the Democrats are smart, and I know there's precious little evidence of that lately, they will...get Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in a room with Howard Dean and Luca Brasi, and lay it out like this: Hillary, America needs you. A joint ticket is a guaranteed winner, and you know it. Think about this. If we announce the ticket today, you never have to give a concession speech. You go from the middle of the fight to an acceptance speech.
I don't think Hillary is that concerned with saving face, but what it will do that she does care about is protect her political power. If she waits to accept, or even refuses, she'll look like Vegas Elvis, wandering around flashing her DEA badge.
Now, Obama might have some hard feelings, and I have much less of a read on him personally, but I think both he and Senator Clinton are, above all else, smart politicians. Still, if he needs prodding, Howard and Luca can always lean on him a little.
Democrats on both sides have begun to show signs of reconciliation, too. One of my readers last night had what I think will be a typical epiphany for fervent Hillacrats:
She is gonna make herself look worse if she can't step down gracefully. I too like and voted for her, but she won't win. Obama is gonna be a bitter pill, but he is a dem and for all the crap I have talked on here about voting mccain, stemmed from anger and spite. We have to get a dem in office!Once this Dream Ticket is in place, which I would strongly recommend the Dems get done by week's end, I feel sorry for John McCain. Almost. He's like a kid laughing at a junkyard dog mauling another kid. He's going to notice, too late, that when the junkyard dog looks his way, he's on the wrong side of that fence.
Take all the trouble that Hillary has caused Obama, then double it, and multiply it by W. That's day one of the hurtin' that Hillary's going to put on John McCain. She's going to be like ED 209, and McCain is going to wish he skipped work that day. For those of you unfamiliar with Robocop, she's going to be like Anton Chigurch, Javier Bardem's Oscar-winning hitman, flipping a coin and asking McCain to call it.
What's great about this, too, is that it effectively neutralizes most of the damage Clinton laid on Obama in the primaries. The media, and the Republicans, will throw the Clinton campaign's quotes at Obama, but her campaign will be there to hit 'em right back at McCain. Only Clinton's campaign has the brass ones to pivot their narrative on a dime, chuck the whole silverware drawer at you, then scold you for covering up your face.
Yes, the thought of Hillary Clinton on Obama's ticket fills me with joy. For years, we've watched the GOP make "Boom-Boom" Mancini out of the Democrats, but now, I laugh at the thought. Barack had a measure of the high ground and good, solid policies to protect him a little. McCain has tissue paper and faith in a merciful God.
One last quote from my March story:
This campaign has been called historic, and I would agree with that characterization, but I would do so because I have never seen a campaign between two smarter politicians. An Obama/Clinton campaign is the smart move, and I trust them to make it happen.Remember, folks, you heard it here first.
Update: From today's Clinton conference call:
Tommy Christopher: Almost every regular voter that I've spoken to in the past 2 weeks has said that a joint ticket is an automatic Democratic victory in November. Can such a ticket even be avoided at this point, and have the campaigns had any talks about the inevitability of such a ticket, the order notwithstanding?
Howard Wolfson: We have not had conversations with the Obama campaign about such a ticket. The Senator feels that any talk of this is premature, and she hasn't expressed any interest in it, as far as I've heard.
Dang! Almost had a scoop!
Update: From today's Obama conference call:
Tommy Christopher: Almost every regular voter that I've spoken to in the past 2 weeks has said that a joint ticket is an automatic Democratic victory in November. Can such a ticket even be avoided at this point? Also, I liked what Senator McCaskill said (earlier in the call) about respecting Senator Clinton and letting her finish the race on her own terms, but what about the idea of offering Senator Clinton the VP slot in private, allowing her to skip the concession speech and go right to an acceptance speech?Dang! Deja-frakkin'-vu! That's OK, I planted the idea, sort of a political cupid's arrow. Let's see what happens.
David Plouffe: The Senator feels, and I believe Senator Clinton has also said, that any talk of this is premature, as there are a number of contests remaining.
Recent Comments
(Page 1 of 15)JH10:23AMMay 7th 2008
Obama/Clinton ticket is a sure win!!!!!!
JH10:25AMMay 7th 2008
Obama/Clinton ticket is a sure win!!!!
Acer10:29AMMay 7th 2008
NO THANKS.
NO HUSSEIN OBAMA in the White House.
IF OBAMA IS NONIMATED, IT IS A SURE MCCAIN WIN.
tfitz101710:34AMMay 7th 2008
McCain would be done, cpt d. Your candidate is vulnerable on a number of fronts. One scenario I see is that he will be allowed to cake walk through the campaign as long as he doesn't cause any real trouble. He can then lose in a landslide but retain a bit of dignity as a 'victim of history'.
He shouldn't have sold his soul for the presidency, captain. It wasn't worth it.
MichelleG10:35AMMay 7th 2008
I would still vote McCain over an Obama/Clinton ticket. I don't see how that would make Obama any more attractive as president. He would still be president and that is still a frightening thought.
Katherine10:38AMMay 7th 2008
That ticket would be powerful, but it's not Hillary you would have to convince. She's a hard-core democrat, and she wants a democrat to win the White House with a passion.
Hillary has brought up a joint ticket. Hillary has repeatedly said she would fight for Obama if he wins dem nom because she wants a democrat to win so badly.
But, it's Obama--he has refused more than once to consider a joint ticket, and I've never heard him say that he would fight for Hillary and the democrats. Actually, Obama rarely even talks about democrats as a party, have you noticed?
--Personally, I cannot support Obama no matter what. I'm sorry, but I see how he has been given a free pass by the media and corrupt politicians who continue to screw up FL and MI, and even currently in Indiana with the vote count going on near Chicago. I cannot accept how he played the race card on the Clinton's and how he got black people away from caring about Bill. I cannot accept him as unvetted either. Also, he really is someone who has barely any experience, and a poor record, and he's a terribly corrupt politician from Chicago. He's way too far left liberal. Plus, ALL the other bad stuff about him which I could write a book about.
However, if Obama gets the dem nom. and he does not have Hillary as VP, it would be a definite landslide loss for Obama and the democrats in the general election.
He's 100% unelectable. Stands no chance in the general election. Obama supporters need to remember: these are just democratic primaries...this is nothing. It's little league.
Cpt-D10:39AMMay 7th 2008
Tommy, I sriously doubt you have ever served in the Armed forces of your country (that is assuming your country is the USA). You tell an American like John McCain and I quote "be VERY AFRAID!" I suspect he has seen and felt much more than a couple of LEFT WING Demos could throw at him in their entire lives! Thanks to wonderful AmeriKANS like HANOI JANE who support your Pied Piper of Promise he has endoured the worst man can throw at man.- - US Army 23 years-MAC IS BACK!- - Still laughing Tommy boy!
tfitz101710:39AMMay 7th 2008
Tommy, are you telling us that Hillary can be bought for $6.4 mil? I always wondered what the market price for a full grown Clinton was. If I had me about $2.4mil to spend on entertainment, I'd buy Chelsea!
OK, that was just mean.
Allan Vache10:42AMMay 7th 2008
I couldn't agree more. The right wing Nazis will make fun of it and say it will never happen but the truth is a Obama/Clinton ticket will kick McCain's ass and win in a landslide. People know the republicans are responible for rising gas & food prices, terrible educatian and health care policies, a sagging real estate market, and this awful war.
McCain is just another 4 years of Bush, and the 26% who still approve of his presidencey are the ones on drugs, if they can figure out how to read the label.
cjw10:43AMMay 7th 2008
I had just decided that if Obama got the Democratic nod,I woudn't vote at all.I don't like McCain or Obama. I would vote if Hillary were on the ticket.
Acer10:43AMMay 7th 2008
C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S to Senator Hillary Clinton for closing over a 20% gap!!! And for winning INDIANA!!!
Well done! A fantastic achievement!!! Give credit to where credit is due!
This is all very positive, lets forge on... Senator Clinton has the only chance against McCaine.
Obama is being congratulated everywhere, every headline praising him for something he was going to win anyway, what ever happened.... Because he had 98% BLACK votes at the start. Where is the merit in that?
Pete10:44AMMay 7th 2008
You Libs are always entertaining! Y,our party is soooooo messed up that you keep looking for ways to get a chance at the whitehouse. If Hillary cannot beat McCain on her own and Obama-mamama cannot beat Mcain on his own what on Gods Green Earth makes you turkeys think that these two losers could do it together? Flippin amazing that's all I can say. Oh yes and Dummies!
Sandie10:44AMMay 7th 2008
Please contact your superdelegates and tell them you will not vote for Obama and ask them to supprt Hillary. I for one will not vote for a man I do not trust and Obama and Oprah are useign his nomination as a way to support Africa and I do not support this at all. Hillary or Mccain no other way.
https://www.lobbydelegates.com/Default.aspx
tfitz101710:45AMMay 7th 2008
CptD, you have officially removed yourself from any sort of reasoned discourse and effectively been neutralized by your own absurdity.
BTW, credentials, years in service, diplomas, even your claimed race mean nothing around here. Why? Because people lie about those things. The simple answer is to remove them as an issue. We have therefore achieved democracy in the trenches. Will you continue to waste your time?
Cpt-D10:46AMMay 7th 2008
OK, So if I am a right wing NAZI (my father fought them for several years) You must be a LEFT wing Stalinist!- - Do you realize just how stupid your argument sounds to anyone with a fourth grade education? If you do not know the difference between McCain and Bush let me get you started with a little primer- - McCain has a brain and that is just the beginning!
armchairco10:47AMMay 7th 2008
You've got to be kidding! Instead of balancing his ticket with a moderate/conservative democrat Obama is going to pick the second biggest liberal in the party?
Please do it! Please polarize the voters even more and watch John McCain survive this election like he survived the gooks in Hanoi.
Cpt-D10:50AMMay 7th 2008
Being part of Operation Khaos- - and my state being the VERY last one to close its polls (MONTANA) I will continue on! As whether you believe me or not I frankly don't give a DA*N!!
tfitz101710:51AMMay 7th 2008
Sandie, how does one contact a super delegate? Is there some sort of Bat Light thing?
tfitz101710:51AMMay 7th 2008
Sandie, how does one contact a super delegate? Is there some sort of Bat Light thing?
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Cpt-D10:23AMMay 7th 2008
HA HA!! Yep that is a good one!! I can see it now at 3AM in the White house- OWhama, Hillery and Bill all collide at the phone at the same time! Yes sir that will be a good one! Keep laughing, and can ya please let me know exactly what drugs you are takin? Looks like they they give you some really swell highs! Tommy have a great day and know that when we need a good laugh out here in the Real America, we can always count on your LEFT field antics! - Mac is BACK!