wlcn.johnson11:26AMMay 9th 2008

why do I have to be a racist because I have an opinion that differs from yours? Get a new argument - I've heard that one before.

tfitz101711:27AMMay 9th 2008

Paul Krugman of the NY Times has given up. It always bugged me that Krugman supported Hillary even after the editorial board rescinded their endorsement, but that is all over now. He begins with;
"The fight for the Democratic nomination seems to be winding down. It’s not completely over, but the odds now overwhelmingly favor Barack Obama."
He ends with;
"The point is that Mr. Obama has an extraordinary opportunity in this year’s election. He should do everything possible to avoid squandering it."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/opinion/09krugman.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

sumethin special11:29AMMay 9th 2008

I am looking and reading the different things people have to say and I am apalled that people still think this way in America. First, What is a true American?
The only true Americans are the Native American people who had everything taken from them by "TRUE AMERICANS" Voting based on one's skin color is silly as I know thousands of Black and White families who are linked to each other by blood because of slavery so what COLOR runs inside you? the slave quarters or the master's house in the back room for birthing strapping (light skinned) house slaves. I vote based on the issues and who is going to do the best job for everybody for this country. I am not an ignorant, lazy, or uneducated African-American and I will vote for whomever I feel will do the things my morals and values are most closely related to This November no matter who gets this nomination I will vote for them not because of the skin color as some of you are doing by saying you will go against your own party, but based on the solutions Obama Or Hillary can bring to our struggling country. I want to see our troops come come and I want their Childeren to know their mothers and fathers and Most of all I want us as a people to live up to the struggles we have ALL endured to make this a place we can all call home even if it wasn't ours in the beginning amyway

jpgoodrow11:29AMMay 9th 2008

The Dem Party has become far more obsessed with nominating Obama than winning the White House.

Disenfranchised Florida and Michigan voters will very likely stay home along with millions of Clinton supporters who feel she was swift boated out of the nomination by the media and others, and McCain will easily win the Presidency.

OBAMA CAN NOT BEAT MCCAIN without the millions of voters from Clinton supporters he will never get. I don't understand why that is so hard for people to comprehend.

CLINTON '08
America Needs A REAL President, Not Another Obama Sermon

shirleyA11:30AMMay 9th 2008

Why can't she say "white". Why is it ok for
the media to cram it down her throat and
our throat's that Obama has 90% of the black
vote?

willy11:30AMMay 9th 2008

Why is it when 92% of Black voters vote for Obama, it's called loyalty and when White voters vote for Hillary it's called racism?

Duane Martin11:31AMMay 9th 2008

HEH NEIL....wonder if the racist pigs think Adam and Eve were black or white. Or think God is black or white. The first race seed planted according to the Big Black Book was by order of God who made Adam and created Eve to replenish the Earth. A study of genetics would reveal that Black Genes are DOMINENT, White Genes are RECESSIVE. So, that concludes the evidence that the first man and woman on Earth were BLACK and if as the BIG BLACK BOOK says, God created man in his image..then literally speaking God meant it. That concludes the evidence that God was and is BLACK. Would a BLACK RACE GOD CREATE A WHITE RACE. Doubtfull if God was creating man in his "OWN IMAGE". A gene pool can not start out with a reccessive gene, a recessive gene results from a dominate gene, making the Black race our ancestors and GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE TAHT WE TO REPLENISH THE EARTH. BET GOD IS PISSED OFF AT THE OBAMA BASHERS.

Darin Simmons11:40AMMay 9th 2008

OBAMA CAN BEAT McCAIN. THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS STINK ON IT. REPUBLICANS CAN NOT WIN THIS YEAR DUE TO BUSH< HIS WAR AND THE RECESSION. HILLARY AND MCCAIN VOTED FOR THE WAR AND THAT IS WHERE ALL THE MONEY WENT THAT WE COULD HAVE USED FOR HEALTH CARE AND MANY LIVES WOIULD HAVE BEEN SAVED ALSO. VOTERS AND PROTESTORS ARE AGAINST WHAT HAS HAPPENED UNDER REPER RULE AND THE SANTIONING GIVEN BY BUSH, HILLARY CLINTON, JOHN MCCAIN AND OTHERS TO GO TO WAR. BARACK OBAMA WAS NOT FOR THE WAR NOR VOTED FOR IT. MAKES HIM A HELL OIF A LOT SMARTER THAN THOSE WHO VOTED FOR A WAR THAT NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN FOUGHT. YOU THINK THE MOTHERS AND FATHERS OF DEAD SOLDIERS WILL VOTE MCCAIN OR CLINTON. NOT ON YOUR LIFE NOR WILL THEIR FAMILIES AND FRIENDS. DEATH OF A CHILS AND LOVED ONE IS AN UNFORGETABLE PAINFULL EXPERIANCE. LEST WE FORGET!!!!

sumethin special11:41AMMay 9th 2008

Its called racism because the 92% you are talking about that voted for Obama Nearly all have pledged to Vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination because they believe if he is not elected then she is the next best choice for our country but I am hearing that Hillary voters will not do the same That is why we are hearing tones of racism. By the Way I voted for Bill Clinton both terms and Hillary for the primaries but I will vote for Obama if he gets the nomination because there will not be a country left for anyone to have these discussions in if we don't change what is happening in this nation and I wonder what the people in other countries think about all the what looks like racism right now will we be the laughingstock again. Because when I was in Italy last year and Spain this year and even in Aruba(under Dutch rule) they all had an opinion of our country after the fiasco of an election.

M. Miller11:47AMMay 9th 2008

I will take my chance on Roe vs. Wade and the Supreme Court. I have been a Dem all my life but I just can’t vote for Obama no matter what any of the leading Democrats say.
I was voting for Hillary because Obama's judgment regarding his past and current associations is a very real concern for me. His past drug use is something I can't accept either, no matter what. I just can't vote for him even if he is a democrat. The job of the Presidency is too important and too powerful. I’t would be unethical for me to vote for someone whom I have deep concerns about.

Hillary, please don't run as his VP. My convictions regarding Obama are so strong that I still could not support him for President even with you on the ticket!

If Obama is the nominee, I will vote for McCain. Howerver, I will still vote Democrat for the House and the Senate.

drchuckwilliams11:49AMMay 9th 2008

Clearly, Obama has demonstrated that he can do well in the general election. If you examine the coalition of folks that he has brought together, i.e., blacks, whites, young, not so young, Independents, and Republicans (Operation Chaos not withstanding), there is no way that you can reasonably conclude that he is less, not more likely to do well as a candidate in November.

Also, contrary to political spin, the base is uber-important. Given Hillary's early support of the Iraq war, this is an achilles heel for her. White rural Republicans will not vote for a D in November. Period. We will need overwhelming support from our base. Obama has proven that he can not only rally the base, but he can reach beyond it, which is not too shabby for a general.

If you visit my website: http://www.drchuckspeaks.com/ you will see that I have been a huge supporter of Bill and Hillary, ergo, this is not some knee jerk reaction from a person swept up in Obamerica. I carefully considered the facts.

Moreover, Hillary will be able to mobilize the GOP base like never before. The disdain they have for the Clintons is legendary and, more importantly, politically damaging for Democrats. Also, when one considers the number of folks who are voting for the first time, in greater numbers than we've seen in recent memory, that is largely attributable to Obama. We all know this. Let me be clear -- It's not that Hillary is a bad person or a bad candidate. It's that she's not the right presidential candidate for the Democratic party at this time. She must concede. The outstanding superdelegates who have not committed can end this. They should end this. This intraparty bickering cannot continue. We are now hurting the likely candidate and the party for November.

So, any superdelegate who hangs on beyond May, knowing this reality, is a coward!

Bill Nash11:58AMMay 9th 2008

Is Hillary tough or maniacal? Is she focused or obsessed? Is she desparate or racist? Or, perhaps, she's a desparate racist. Giving her every possible, conceivable benefit of the doubt, it is unfathomable that she could be of right mind and continue on this race-baiting path that her campaign adopted shortly before SC.

The argument she makes is without merit and should be an embarrassment to both her, her campaign and the 'supposed' Clinton legacy. The 'racism' route not only divides our country, and is ugly on its face, but it makes the Clintons look like the red'necked southerners that they are; and it totally has absolutely no basis in fact. Moreover, her argument that she is more electable is confounded, and thus rendered false, by the historical data.

Gallup has explained that Obama is in the exact same position with the electorate as Kerry was in '04, including support amongst 'white' voters, and he (Kerry) is white. The caveat which inures to Obama's benefit is that he will receive 95%+ of the black vote (Kerry got 85%) and the youth vote, which should comprise 25% of the electorate (versus 18% in '04). Obama will get 90% of that vote. Kerry lost by 2 pts in '04. Gallup has Obama at +5pts because of his expansion of the electorate. Clinton contracts the electoral base due to her high negatives.

For those of you perpetually s.o.s. (stuck on stupid), Obama will have a much easier time being elected this cycle than Gore or Kerry or Clinton. Obama will be a great president and will make Americans proud.

jimbo12:00PMMay 9th 2008

Easy solution: if obama is the dems. choice,...... just have the polls open until 11am. obamas constituents will still be sleeping ,after gangbanging and thugging all night long.

pt12:09PMMay 9th 2008

"...I'll see your Race Card and raise Two Patriot Cards..."

1] The Race Card:
Yes, Bill C. did appear as the Great White Hope back in '92. But then things got ugly and all his Political Capital was blown in the second half; Lions 1--Great White Hopes 0.
More recently, as far back as early Dec. 07, I heard the first whisper of "The Card" hitting the green felt. Before the holidays and way before the first primary, someone in Sen. Clinton's staff made a comment to the effect: "How nice that someone like 'him' could come such a long way; but now it's time for the grown ups to take over."
[note; this writer is frantically trying to relocate that quote for accuracy]
At first I thought I had heard worng. Growing up as a white kid in a racist white society, it was not uncommon to hear that negroes could not vite, since they did not have the capacity for good judgement, ggod jobs or good education. Or, as my late grandmother would say, [quoting as accurately as memory allows] "That l'il pickaninny shure is full of himself!"
[Please! no flames from the African-American community; that's how it was in the '50s and '60s.
As consolation, it was the same concerning Jews, Catholics, Mexicans, Asians, and Native Americans.]
While the INTENT of such comments from the Clinton staff may be totally benign or even 'politics as usual' even to my white ears there is still the echoes of my grandmother's remarks and much worse from outside the family. So, I have been curious that with so many well-meaning staffers, campaigne strategists and PR people NONE of them seem to realize just how caustic such words can be to those whose own lives have been touched, wrenched or devastated by past racism.
To which one might add, that in a Democracy found on "...one white man and 3/5s of a black man..." one vote the Core Of America ARE those who get their butts out in the rain or cold or skip lunch or miss their ride home in order to VOTE. And if black people are getting out to vote, that is not '...stacking the deck...' that is DEMOCRACY.

[Next: The Patriot Card]

tfitz101712:14PMMay 9th 2008

OK, two things here. NY Time has a piece on Edwards doing the 'Morning joe' show on MSNBC. He won't quite endorse but he made an interesting slip:
Several minutes into the interview, Ms. Brzezinski was pressing Mr. Edwards on his potential endorsement.
From the article:
“You’re saying that this candidate you voted for will be the candidate that you potentially endorse, that it looks highly likely, if I can use your words?” she said.

“I’d say that’s very likely,” Mr. Edwards said.

“Okay, well, I’m close, I just need to find out who Elizabeth voted for,” Ms. Brzezinski said, referring to Mrs. Edwards.

“I just voted – I just voted for him on Tuesday, so–,” Mr. Edwards said.

Then David Schuster, another MSNBC host, interrupted: “So it was a him or a her that you voted for?”

Mr. Edwards backpedaled a bit, saying, “No, no,” and laughing.

Of course, it is possible that he meant “them,” which he shortened to “’em,” or simply misspoke. (Or he could blame his Southern accent.)"

There's video to go with the story. Edwards is ready to pop.
That same video has the audio of the Hillary 'hard working white people' statement. Man, it sounds awful. Worse than reading it in print.
Here's the link:
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/rewinding-on-edwards-did-he-vote-for-him/


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tfitz101712:17PMMay 9th 2008

Man, lots of blatant racist posts everywhere.
This is obviously the death throes of something. Get the fuck on with it, already!

Lizzie12:27PMMay 9th 2008

SUPERDELEGATES, HILLARY CLINTON MUST NOT BE IGNORED
AS THE MOST VIABLE CANDIDATE TO DEMOGRAFICALLY REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS IN THE UNITED STATES. THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY OF ALL RACES AND RELIGIONS DEPENDS ON YOUR SOUND JUDGMENT.

THE FUTURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IS ALSO AT STAKE.
DO NOT ALLOW MEDIA HYPE TO CLOUD YOUR THINKING. LET REASON PREVAIL AND YOU WILL MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR ALL AMERICANS.

Truth Alert!
Barack Obama is not an elitist.
Barack Obama is not a terrorist sympathizer.
Barack Obama is not a muslim sympathizer.
Most importantly, Barack Obama is not presidential material. What Barack Obama is not, is a lot.

TJ12:28PMMay 9th 2008

ALL THE PUNDITS AND HEADLINES AND POLLS AFTER THE ELECTION HAVE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE "WHITE WORKING CLASS" IS NOT VOTING OBAMA. I READ AT LEAST 20 OF THOSE HEADLINES AND POLLS . . . AND NOW HILLARY SAID IT?
ONE THING THE MEDIA MUST REMEMBER IS TO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.
YOU WISHED FOR OBAMA AND YOU MIGHT GET HIM.
ILL BE ON THE SIDELINESS LAUGHING AT YOU ALL.

NOW HILLARY CLINTON IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE POLLS AND PUNDIDTS THAT HAVE TALKED OVER AND OVER ABOUT HOW OBAMA CANT WIN THE WORKING CLASS WHITE??????

I URGE ALL HILLARY SUPPORTER NEVER TOM WAIVER, NO MATTER WHAT HILLARY SAYS ...............DO NOT VOTE OBAMA.
ALSO REMEMBER THAT WRITE-IN VOTES ARE NOT COUNTED.

IF THEY STEAL THIS ELECTION--VOTE MCCAIN
NO MATTER WHAT THEY MAKE HILLARY SAY IN PUBLIC
VOTE HILLARY OR MCCAIN
VOTE HILLARY OR MCCAIN
VOTE HILLARY OR MCCAIN
VOTE HILLARY OR MCCAIN

HILLARY IS NOW RESPONSIBLE FOR SAYING HOW OBAMA CANT WIN THE WORKING CLASS WHITE??????
IT WAS EVERYWHERE!!
THIS IS SO SHOCKING!! JESUS. IT WAS EVERYWHERE...

OXOXO
TJ, THE OBAMANIA BUSTER.

Que sera sera12:28PMMay 9th 2008

tfitz101710:05AM

Curious of what you mean about whatchagonnadowhentheycomefor you?

Katherine12:31PMMay 9th 2008

More stupid race-baiting.

Yet another reason why I would never vote for Obama.