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Hillary Support Crashing
As expected following her blowout in NC and squeaker in IN:
The campaign is clearly running low on cash, although advisers would not say how much money - or how little - Mrs. Clinton currently has. The campaign had started April with over $10 million in unpaid debts, and Mrs. Clinton was vastly outspent by Senator Barack Obama in North Carolina and Indiana.
...
Mrs. Clinton had been increasingly relying on Internet donations this spring from new and small-amount contributors; the day after she won the April 22 Pennsylvania primary, the campaign brought in a record $10 million online. But Hassan Nemazee, one of Mrs. Clinton's national finance chairmen, put the amount she collected online in the 24 hours after the Indiana and North Carolina primaries at only "$1 million-plus."
...
Still, other top fund-raisers working for Mrs. Clinton said that enthusiasm among donors had fallen sharply and that they had little confidence there would be a financial turnaround. They said that some donors had questioned why they should give more money when another set of numbers - the calculus to win enough delegates for the nomination - seemed so against Mrs. Clinton at this point.
The one bright spot for Hillary is that the next two primaries are in extremely friendly Clinton territory. Check the map.
Blue is for higher Clinton margin of victory which shows that both Kentucky and WV are smack in the middle of the demographical area that has been swinging for Clinton by large 40 point margins.

Although the Ohio and PA elections she was more viable, but still, if she is able to maintain these blowout conditions, at the very least, her bargaining power will increase over the next couple of weeks, not decrease. She's in it through May, for sure.
Thanks to Jay Cost for the map and he also aptly handles the Puerto Rico question.
Realistically, she still has only a small shot at the election, but she won't hurt herself by staying in through WV, KY, Oregon, and Puerto Rico.There are good reasons not to take Puerto Rico lightly, even though the press has continued to do exactly that. I would note: (a) Puerto Ricans vote in large numbers (2 million in the last gubernatorial election); (b) Puerto Ricans have never had this important a role in United States presidential politics; (c) Puerto Rico's politics is focused at least partially on how (if at all) to adjust its relationship with the United States; (d) Puerto Rico's is an open primary, and the residents of the Commonwealth, who are United States citizens, do not see themselves as Republicans or Democrats.
The inference I draw is that Puerto Ricans could turn out in huge numbers. If they do, and they swing for Clinton in a sizeable way, the popular vote lead could swing, too. Add 290,000 votes from West Virginia and Kentucky to 250,000 votes from Puerto Rico, account for expected losses in Oregon, Montana, and South Dakota, and you get Clinton leading in many popular vote counts, some of which are really quite valid. If she has one of those leads when the final votes are counted on June 3rd, the race will go on to the convention.
Recent Comments
(Page 1 of 1)steve woodman8:23AMMay 9th 2008
The first President I voted for was JFK. I have always voted Democratic. I have have consistantly backed the DNC. I have never seen the likes of this campaign in forty years. Hillary is a fighter but she also has a stubborn streak that makes her look rigid and too set in her ways to lead the USA, she has no gray areas which are necessary for leadership in that negotations always require a good listener, it seems that she has yet to see this. I cannot imagine her Presidency as anything that would benefit the World as it is today. Hillary speaks when she shoud be listening, making her too one sided and ready to answer before she actually hears the question.
If she would only tone the rhetoric and concentrate on winning by not pointing her finger so much then she may be ready for 2112.
Melissa8:24AMMay 9th 2008
Thank you for being one of the few individuals not calling for Hillary Clinton to quit this race. She should continue running until the last primary is held. If Barack Obama and his cronies want to proclaim victory for themselves so be it. These are the same individuals who so vigorously opposed resolving the Florida/Michigan vote debacle for fear that the vote may go against them so why should we expect them honor the votes of the remaining primary states. I think their big fear is just as you point out. Clinton may close with a flourish and cast doubt on his electability. There's no doubt in my mind that he is unelectable due to his alienation of the backbone of the party, the blue collar, small town worker. Whether Hillary Clinton gives him her support or not there are many of us in the Democratic Party who simply cannot unite behind this man. Anyone who plays the race card against Bill Clinton and fancies themselves a John F. Kennedy reincarnation while attending such a hate filled church cannot and willnot win my vote.
lmay8:41AMMay 9th 2008
I've raised my tally now to six more of my friends who will be voting for Mccain if Hillary is our nominee.
As I've stated so many times, I am a lifelong democrat loyal to this party, voted demo down the line over 25 years but Obama is someone I can't vote for..will never ever vote for.
Yes....I have read his books and I think anyone else who has read his books and took a close look at him would be afraid of this man.
He is unelectable. He has not united anyone, I have never seen such division before.
We need to stay united as Americans and vote Mccain just to keep him from being elected to the highest office in this country. The USA is a country I've loved all of my adult life and my vote will go to the person who will protect it!!!!
Keep going Hillary, we are proud of you...if not I am hoping you run as an independent!!! And after Mccain, we will see you in 2012 so that you can clean up the mess!!!
Susan Nation8:57AMMay 9th 2008
David, David, David - why do you purposefully lie to your audience.
Hillary supporters aren't crashing. They are still there for Hillary. They just won't vote for Obama. Therefore they will vote for McCain.
Currently, Rasmussen is suggesting that at the high end, 47% of Clinton supporters, if Hillary does not make the nomination, will vote for John McCain. That percentage is moving upward. Meanwhile, the youth vote for Obama is declining, with those votes going to John McCain.
At the same time, the Dean/Obama/Kennedy camp is already beginning the process of rationalizing of who lost the Democratic election in the fall - putting the onus on Clinton, when in truth, it was the audacity of arrogance from the Dean/Obama/Kennedy camp that has ruined the chances of a Democratic win.
And of course, the Congressional Black Caucus is getting geared up for the second coming of race riots and civil rights a la Sharpton for the next four years.
It isn't about race, Davey boy, its all about culture. So what is Sharpton and his Congretional Black Caucus going to do - pass legislation about condemning culture in the US? Condemning and persecuting European American, Hispanic American culture, Asian American culture in the US in the Wright way?
Oh, by the way, Hammas did endorse Obama, much as Obama has tried to suppress that fact.
“Look at the tyranny of party--at what is called party allegiance, party loyalty--a snare invented by designing men for selfish purposes--and which turns voters into chattles, slaves, rabbits, and all the while their masters, and they themselves are shouting rubbish about liberty, independence, freedom of opinion, freedom of speech, honestly unconscious of the fantastic contradiction” Autobiography of Mark Twain
dimelo9:52AMMay 9th 2008
obama in 2008
cbleelaw2:45PMMay 9th 2008
To Melissa
Let's at least try for accuracy here.
There is no present settlement in MI because HRC has refused any settlement by which the MI delegates may be seated which gives O any delegates at all from MI, and says that while knowing that the MI delegation is proposing an arrangement whereby the delegates will be settled at 10 more for Hillary than O, and that O's people are considering it. H rejected it outright. The MI legislature refused legislation that would have allowed a do-over. The governor who signed the legislation for the illegal election was Jennifer Grantholm, a Clinton supporter.
HRC has also rejected any resolution in FLA other than recognizing the illegal election in all respects, and notwithstanding her own campaigning there before the election. Her supporters there, including Bill Nelson and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, have also refused all compromises. In Fla, it did not help that a lot of options were illegal under Federal law.
And Hillary cannot be nominated, since she has mortally alienated the African American community by a large number of her own self inflicted wounds. No democrat has been elected for decades without that community. That was the community that got Bill in. Even your favored community rejected her gas tax holiday fraud. The community you name has not voted Democratic since 1964.
cbleelaw2:52PMMay 9th 2008
To Davidg
The question why she should not stay in, praying for an asteroid to hit Obama, is simple. She is an unguided missile and is damaging the party and diluting what should, now that the numbers are set, be focusing on McCain. We don't need any more nuclear threats which produce UN complaints, or phony gas tax holday proposals promised for this summer by her to voters which cannot for reasons not related to O ever in fact be done. Her attacks are these days off the wall but bid for and require attention better spent elsewhere supporting the Democratic position in November, and seek to create a situation where the party is so polarized that it will not come together and McCain will get a bye in November, keep us at war, eliminate the right to choose, put Neanderthal judges in the Supreme Court for the next thirty years, leave home mortgagers to the wolves, and so on .
Mary O\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\4:34PMMay 9th 2008
You just try to make "US" believe that jerk! She is in because she can win and Obama can't. If we Democrats want the Whitehouse back we had better surge for her in the end. Otherwise, it's McBush III. Also, I resent the referral to her as a third Clinton Adminstration. Hillary is her own candidate and has her own unique Rodham style. She is America's greatest hope!!! Wake up!!!
Say states and Puerto Rico left to vote, thank you for now recognizing Hillary for her strengths, not her gender. Remember, it is not too late, despite what the pundits, etc. are saying. Let's save America the land that we love not, necessarily the Democratic Party. If Hillary doesn't get the nomination please either encourage her to start a new party or, if she must remain loyal to the Democrat Party that has thumped her and Bill, write-in her name on the ballot. She may very well win if we all do just do that. Also, as soon as I vote in the KY primary on May 20th, I'm going to go directly and change from a life-long Democrat (55) to Independent. I have had it with our Party. Rise, Hillary, Rise and stay in to the end because Obama will be exposed for the real “empty and dangerous suit” he is. Keep the faith Hillary supporters. We can still do this and save America the land we love, not the Democratic Party.
Jack Cornn10:24PMMay 9th 2008
The incessant rant of the black population supposedly reliving the inhumanity of being a slave and consistently playing the race card with vengeance along with placing the blame on a white society
for perceived failures whether real or imaginary has been the proverbial crutch for black Americans. There is not an EX slave in America. Conversely the slaves displaced the poor whites in early America, especially in the South and they had no means of to support their families so the term arose" Poor white Trash". Today the rich Americans hire the illegal immigrants at reduced wages and again displace poor American workers. And so the American dream continues, with a little luck and hard work any American can achieve whatever success he or she desires within reason. Granted a person five foot tall, in all probability, will not be drafted by the NBA.
Sports, politics, the legal profession, Hollywood and almost any profession in America is wide open to
all who are qualified regardless of race. Some blacks like the Rev.Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton,
Farrakhan and others obtain a false leadership simply by orating a perceived racial discrimination which has led to terrible riots nationwide and a continuing hatred of the white race. This alone has created a fear of blacks but most importantly it has created a strong distrust of the black race. Oprah has undoubtedly been discriminated against but she proceeded forth on her own agenda towards success. As have millions of other blacks. The Rev Wright saga has hurt Obama and some make excuses for his support of Wright over a twenty year period. Some sayhe should have stayed in the church , others say he should have discussed the unchristian remarks with the pastor. Personally I would have challenged Wrights contention that the US government injected black Americans with the AIDS virus, and all other radical statements.. All of which are ridiculous statements and have absolutely no bearing on the truth. Obama is the first Black American with a decent chance to be elected President of the US but I believe he has crapped in his mess kit with some serious lapses of judgment during the past few years. His association with known terrorists, his association with Rezko, questionable campaign contributions, and a host of other affiliations. He has garnered unprecedented majorities of the black vote, exceeding ninety percent in some states which makes it a racial issue with blacks but most whites are above that issue. No where has Hillary garnered any where near that percentage. I am sure she would have accepted the percentage just as Obama has but that is neither here or there. The fact that race has become an issue will persist and will probably determine the outcome of the race. I have donated to the Clinton campaign simply because I consider her to be the lesser of two evils. Obama wrote a book titled "Dreams from my father" in which he tells how easy it is to lie to whites and get away with it along with accounts of his drug usage and his hatred of his mother and her white race. It also states that if the winds blow unfavorably between his fathers native Africa and the US he feels compelled to side with his Muslim brethern. Should Hillary lose the nomination, I will vote McCain
EXISTENTIAL BEING9:44PMMay 10th 2008
Top ten Obama Vice Presidential picks
http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2008/05/whos-going-to-f.html
So it's Obama. But who's going to fill the second slot on the
Democratic ticket?
1) Hillary Clinton
Many believe Obama will have to offer the VP slot to Clinton. Andrew
Sullivan called it the hate-filled dream ticket. But will she accept
it? If Obama loses, she may see a 2012 race opening up before her.
Al_for_vp 2) Al Gore
He's certainly got the experience. But the eco-warrior probably has
no desire to return to Pennsylvania Avenue. Winning his endorsement
would have set Obama up for the nomination. Does he need Gore any
more?
3) John Edwards
A serious contender. The North Carolina Senator ran with John Kerry
in 2004 and would bring the Southern link currently missing in
Obama's campaign. But would he want to do it again? And would Obama
feel Edwards should have been with him earlier?
Kathleen_sebelius4) Kathleen Sebelius
Sebelius's name has been cropping up more and more frequently. The
two-term Governor of Kansas fills in many of the gaps in Obama's
support base. She may not have much foreign policy experience but
she'll bring a red state with her. And a female Vice-President might
help soothe Clinton's supporters. One to watch.
5) Bill Richardson
Also extremely likely. Pundits state that he's been running for VP
since the beginning. He brings foreign policy experience and the
Hispanic vote with him.
Wesley_clark_2 6) Wesley Clark
A former four-star general, Wes Clark served in Kosovo and studied
PPE at Oxford. He would lend Obama military clout and cross
party-lines in his appeal.
7) Jim Webb
The junior Virginia senator since 2006. He could provide the machismo
that Obama needs. A military man with a son in Iraq, he's regarded as
one of the most authorative Democratic voices on the conflict. Known
to carry a loaded pistol on occasion. As a former Reagan man he
would add to Obama's cross party appeal and make it slightly harder
to paint the candidate as an unrepentant liberal.
8) Robert Casey
The Pennsylvania senator has already endorsed Obama. As VP, he would
help out in the white working-class states. And his Catholic faith
would reach out to an important voting bloc.
Oprah_and_obama9) Oprah Winfrey
She's already one of America's most powerful women. Could DC be next
on her world-domination agenda? Just a thought.
10) Joe Biden
Might he be the first Biden in a thousand generations to run for
President? A senator since 1972, his presidential runs have never
taken off. But his international experience might make him a good
choice and he'd appeal to the white male vote. His description of
Obama as 'clean' didn't do him any favours though. And some think he
is more likely to be Secretary of State.
KATHLEEN SEBELIUS IS ONE FEMALE IN WHICH I WOULD WHOLLY SUPPORT IF
SHE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT BUT I CAN SETTLE FOR OBAMA/SEBELIUS
TICKET! YOU BETCHA
Kathleen Gilligan Sebelius (born May 15, 1948) is currently serving
as the 44th Governor of Kansas.[1] She is the second female governor
of Kansas, the 2008 respondent to the State of the Union address,[2]
and chair-emeritus of the Democratic Governors Association.
Early life and family
Sebelius was born and raised in a Catholic family in Cincinnati,
Ohio. She attended the Summit Country Day School, a Roman Catholic
secondary school, followed by Trinity Washington University, a Roman
Catholic university in Washington, D.C., and later earned a Master of
Public Administration degree from the University of Kansas. She moved
to Kansas in 1974 at the age of 26, where she served for eight years
as a representative in the Kansas Legislature and eight years as
Insurance Commissioner before being elected governor.
Sebelius is the daughter of former Ohio governor John J. Gilligan,
and thus they became the first father/daughter governor pair in the
United States after her election.[3] Her husband K. Gary Sebelius[4]
is a federal magistrate judge and the son of former U.S.
Representative Keith Sebelius, a Republican. They have two sons. She
also visits her childhood and current vacation home, located in
Leland, Michigan, north of Traverse City, Michigan.
[edit] Early political career
She was first elected to the Kansas House of Representatives in 1986.
In 1994 she left the House to run for state insurance commissioner and
stunned political forecasters by winning — the first time a Democrat
had won in more than 100 years. She is credited with bringing the
agency out from under the influence of the insurance industry. She
refused to take campaign contributions from insurers and blocked the
proposed merger of Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Kansas, the state's
largest health insurer, with an Indiana-based company. The decision
by Sebelius marked the first time the corporation had been rebuffed
in its acquisition attempts."[5]
[edit] Governorship
Kathleen Sebelius (second to left) with Mississippi Governor Haley
Barbour (first left), United States Secretary of State Condoleezza
Rice (center), Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm (fourth), and
Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue (right).
Kathleen Sebelius (second to left) with Mississippi Governor Haley
Barbour (first left), United States Secretary of State Condoleezza
Rice (center), Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm (fourth), and
Georgia Governor Sonny Perdue (right).
[edit] First term
[edit] 2002 election
Sebelius defeated Republican Tim Shallenburger in the 2002 election
by a vote of 53%-45%.[6] Her victory was partially the result of a
bitter divide between conservatives and moderates within the Kansas
Republican Party.[7] This divide is touched upon in Thomas Frank's
bestseller What's the Matter with Kansas?. Since winning the
election, Sebelius has successfully built upon her popularity and as
of January 2006 was one of the most popular governors in the
country.[8]
[edit] Gun laws
Sebelius vetoed, like her Republican predecessor Bill Graves, a
concealed-carry law that would have allowed citizens to carry
concealed weapons after obtaining a state permit and passing an FBI
background check.[9] The veto left Kansas as one of only four states
without any form of a conceal-carry law.
Sebelius said she supports Kansans' right to own firearms, but does
not believe a broad concealed-carry law would make them safer: "I
don't believe allowing people to carry concealed handguns into
sporting events, shopping malls, grocery stores, or the workplace
would be good public policy. And to me the likelihood of exposing
children to loaded handguns in their parents' purses, pockets and
automobiles is simply unacceptable."[10]
On March 21, 2006 she vetoed Senate Bill 418, a similar
concealed-carry bill. On March 25, Sebelius's veto was overturned
after the Kansas House of Representatives voted 91-33 to override it.
This followed the Kansas Senate's 30-10 override vote, which occurred
the day after her veto.[11]
On April 21, 2008, Sebelius signed Senate Bill 46 into law, which
repealed a 1933 state law prohibiting civilian ownership of machine
guns and other firearms restricted by the National Firearms Act of
1934 provided that any prospective owner successfully meets the
requirements of the NFA. The law was passed in part to address legal
issues that could have prevented dealers from delivering firearms to
law enforcement agencies in Kansas. The law takes effect on July
1.[12]
[edit] Other actions and issues
After the Kansas economy reached its lowest point in over a decade
early in her first term,[citation needed] the economy experienced
nearly two years of continuous job growth, although the majority of
the job growth came from the creation of local government
jobs.[citation needed] No tax increases were enacted and no cutbacks
in essential services were imposed.[citation needed]
Sebelius did not support an April 2005 amendment to the Kansas
Constitution that made same-sex marriage in the state
unconstitutional. Sebelius said she supported the existing state law
outlawing same-sex marriage, viewed it as sufficient,[13] and
therefore opposed the constitutional amendment. The amendment passed
with 70 percent voter approval.
Sebelius is an opponent of capital punishment. During her first term,
the Kansas capital punishment laws were declared unconstitutional by
the Kansas Supreme Court. However, on appeal by then-Kansas Attorney
General Phill Kline, the ruling was again overturned and the current
law reinstated by the United States Supreme Court.
Early in the term, Governor Sebelius made education funding her top
priority. Education funding reached a breaking point in the summer of
2005 when the Kansas Supreme Court ordered the Legislature to increase
K–12 funding.[citation needed] Sebelius offered one education
funding plan early in her first term which consisted of property,
sales, and income tax increases. Sebelius has since deferred to the
Kansas legislature on education funding issues, resulting in 2006 in
the largest K–12 education funding increase in the history of the
state. The three-year plan aimed to increase education funding by
nearly $1 billion over three years but did not give a funding source
for the second and third years. Current state projections show the
state in debt by millions of dollars halfway into the second year of
the plan.
[edit] Second term
[edit] 2006 re-election
Main article: Kansas gubernatorial election, 2006
On May 26, 2006 Sebelius formally announced her candidacy for
re-election. Four days later, Mark Parkinson, former Kansas state GOP
Party Chair, switched his party affiliation to Democratic; the
following day Sebelius announced that Parkinson would be her running
mate for Lieutenant Governor. Parkinson had previously served in the
state House during 1991–1992 and the Senate during 1993–1997.
Parkinson was a popular and successful GOP Party Chair. He was viewed
as a pro-business moderate who strongly supported public education.
This was somewhat reminiscent of the fact that John Moore had also
been a Republican, before switching just days prior to joining
Sebelius as her running mate.[14]
She was challenged by Republican Kansas State Senator Jim Barnett. A
September 1 Rasmussen poll showed Sebelius with an 11-percent lead
over Barnett. [15] Other polls gave Sebelius as much as a 20-percent
lead. As of 2004 50 percent of Kansas voters were registered
Republicans, compared to 27 percent as registered Democrats.[16]
Sebelius, nevertheless, won a landslide re-election with 57.8 percent
of the vote to Barnett's 40.5 percent. Because of Kansas' term limit
law, her second term as Governor is her last.
[edit] Speculation on political future
During the 2004 election Sebelius was named as a potential running
mate for John Kerry.[17] In the aftermath of Kerry's defeat in the
2004 presidential election, some pundits named Sebelius as a
potential candidate for the Democratic nomination for President in
2008. Some of Sebelius's political leanings, including support for
abortion rights and opposition to capital punishment, are unusual for
a governor of Kansas; yet many contend that her appeal would be broad
among her fellow Midwesterners.[citation needed] As of 2008,
speculation remains that she would be a contender for the
vice-presidential slot on a ticket headed by either Barack Obama or
Hillary Clinton.[18]Speculation that the Vice Presidential nomination
lies in her future was heightened by the fact that she was chosen by
the Democratic Party's congressional leaders to give their party's
official response to Republican President George W. Bush's 2008 State
of the Union Address.[19] The next day, she endorsed Obama's campaign,
one week before the Kansas caucus on Super Tuesday [20]. Obama won the
caucus easily, with 74% support.[21]
Also, due to Sebelius being term-limited in 2010 and owing to her
being a popular Democrat who has achieved election to statewide
office in the heavily Republican state, Sebelius is also speculated
as a possible Democratic candidate for the US Senate seat currently
held by Republican Sam Brownback in 2010, who has said he will not
seek reelection. Michael Moore also speculated on his website
MichaelMoore.com that she may run for President in 2016.[22]
Sebelius is a former chair of the Democratic Governors Association, a
popular launchpad for those with national political ambitions.[23]
[edit] Electoral history
Kansas Gubernatorial Election 2002
Party Candidate Votes % ±%
Democratic Kathleen Sebelius 435,462 52.9
Republican Tim Shallenburger 371,325 45.3
Kansas Gubernatorial Election 2006
Party Candidate Votes % ±%
Democratic Kathleen Sebelius (Incumbent) 480,532 57.8 +4.9
Republican Jim Barnett 336,583 40.5
[edit] Recognition
In 2001 Sebelius was named as one of Governing Magazine's Public
Officials of the Year while she was serving as Kansas Insurance
Commissioner.[24]
In November 2005 Time named Sebelius as one of the five best
governors in America, praising her for eliminating a $1.1 billion
debt she inherited, ferreting out waste in state government, and
strongly supporting public education — all without raising taxes.
Also praised was her bipartisan approach to governing, a useful trait
in a state where Republicans have usually controlled the
Legislature.[25]
In February 2006, the White House Project named Sebelius one of its
"8 in '08", a group of eight female politicians who could possibly
run and/or be elected president in 2008.[26]
hitemup1time10:04PMMay 11th 2008
I support President Clinton and Hillary Clinton because our Economy is struggling and our Deficit is @ an all time high right now and if I recall both of those issues were almost @ a stand still when They accompanied one another in the White House for 8 years as Commanders and Chiefs of this great nation. Right now is a pevital moment and we litterally have lost the Middle-Class in this Country, The Clintons and they're organization have always made sure the middle class has flourished. I would like to voice my opinion about being a Voice that is Heard and not pushed aside by a biast media and perhaps even a biast democratic party, It is evidently clear that the media is "Forcing the Hands of The Democratic Party to throw the Clintons out"
What they do not understand is that all they are accomplishing by doing so is guaranteeing a victory for the Republicans and John McCain and here we go with another 4 years of Bush. Look the numbers speak for themselves. We agree that McCain is going to be another Bush so simple mathematics will show if you go to the election of 2000 and 2004 you will see a trend of what states Bush Carried over Gore and Kerry. It is easy to see that Hillary has alot of support in some of those states and Beat Obama in all of the "BIG" states with the biggest population and with the most electoral votes. Her support as she clearly keeps indicating amongst Blue Collar White Working Class voters is overwhelmingly in her favor, these are the votes you need in an election for President. She will continue to fight on for Florida and Michigan to be seated and that will help even the playing field. NO ONE I repeat NO ONE will have enough Electoral Votes to win this Election for the Democratic party So they do not have the right to give any credit to the Obama organization referencing a Win. The Super Delegates may not even Decide on this issue.
There is a simple Question rising right now and that is do you want a Democrat in office or a Republican??? The Democratic Party is going to have to come to terms with that Simple Question and if it is Democrat then they will have to Choose Hillary Clinton other wise we will loose the Nomination and I believe by staggering numbers considering what is out in the media right now about Barack Obama. Look @ the Hard facts and that is what Hillary Clinton is going to argue up until the end. The Party would have to be loosing they're Bearing's if they really think Obama stands a chance. Hillary go ahead and use that slogan by the way. I just want to end with a letter I sent the Clinton Organization Pleading with them as a Florida Voter and here it is,
The Math to get the Nomination" Read this Very Important
Listen I and my wife are Hillary supporters and so is my family and friends and we are all from Florida, Missourri, Indiana, New York, California, and Arizona. and we have held group meetings, made calls, and contributions and know you NEED this nomination. We need this Nomination and we NEED YOU Hillary Clinton to be our Candidate. I know the math is against us right now but we havn't given up and we know you will not either. I am no Rocket Scientist but I have figured out a way for the math to work for you to win in the election for the electoral votes needed. First off, and I know it's going to be a long shot but you have to win the endorsement of John Edwards and Get his 19 Delegate Count in your favor from him succeeding them to you in compliance with the democratic committee in agreeance. Maybe Bill can help you with this. also; You will need to carry West Va. , Kentucky, and Puerto Rico by an avg. of 70/30 split. not bad considering the demographics and latino favorable vote for you. You need a tie in South Dakota and Montana and Oregon. all of this will be contengent on you also getting Fl. where you should have about 61 delegates to Baracks 43 and you will need to also seat Michigans votes but in order to do this you will need to give Barack the uncommitted votes of 237,762 you carried this state with 328,151 votes if you recall. that math is roughly 33/21 so you will still pick up delegates there. now furthermore you will need to and maybe most impressively win about 63% of the super delegates and Wham' you are the next democratic nominee. as far as I can see you have the tenacity and the backing of your name and all of us and many endorsements and of course poll victories to pull this off. tell them that 70 % of Obama supporters will vote for you even if Obama is out and only 48 % of our voters will vote for Barack or McCain come November. I, My wife, my family and friends happen to be those whom will either not vote or vote for McCain if we are not heard and you are not seated. they are infringing on all of our rights to vote "it is our constitutional right to vote" Who do they think they are.? WE will Send a message to these people. It may cost them the Nomination all together and then Wham' another 4 years of BUSH with McCain. Please, I know you are trying everything you can but DO NOT allow them to throw you out. Stand your ground and keep up the fight. Your HillaryAholics stand behind you most when you are down and you fight back everytime and that's precisely what your message should be from here on out and what you shall and will do from here on out. This I am confident of. The Republcans are hoping for Obama and routing for Obama so they can win this nomination.
Sincerely,
Your HillaryAholic Leader,
Kevin Poeling
Naples, Florida
Also, I will like to add to this a little bit on "The Math"
The States in just the last election won by Bush that Hillary should be a much better candidate in against McCain than Obama are West Va., Ohio, Florida, Pennsylvania, Texas, Kentucky, Arkansas, Puerto Rico, and even Arizona. These States were carried by Hillary Clinton in the race to the whitehouse. The other States that were not won in 2004 by Bush but Obama might not be able to carry in this election against McCain and Clinton more than likely will are California, Pennsylvania, Michigan, New York, and New Jersey. Look People I don't know about you but lets be real here. I mean just because you don't want to make this about RACE and hurt our African American vote which by the way only makes up 22.5 % of the total Democratic vote and lets see 87.6% of them are voting for Obama. that math equivalates to about 6,504,300.00 votes and what was the last poll? Oh yeah 70% of them said they would vote for Hillary. so lets see whats that #? o.k. its. 4,553,010 votes and so you subtract that from 6,504,300 and it is only 1,951,290 votes. Now lets do a little subject here. lets say that the poll that just came out held some weight in the upcomming election which it will.. now only 48% of Hillary supporters claimed they would vote for Obama. she has over 17,000,000 votes with Fl. and Mi. lets just say for argument sakes that number which is 8,160,000 votes. seems like an awfull lot of diffenece to throw the election on doesn't it? take 8,160,000 votes subtract the 1,951,290 votes and you have 6,208,710 votes difference. AND THAT MY FRIENDS WILL LOOSE US THE ELECTION RIGHT THERE. JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO GET A LITTLE HARSH WITH OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN VOTERS AND TELL THEM WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE OUT OF FEAR.
I for one am upposed to allowing this nation to be ruled by an incompitent nominee and an unexperienced one who is tied up in all sorts of scandals and terrorist mentioning? what are we still even talking about and what has come over the American People? WAKE UP!!! Don't forget about what just happened to us in the last 8 years. We cannot afford to allow that to occur again.
VOTE HILLARY CLINTON or LOSE THE WHITEHOUSE.
Dee7:47AMMay 12th 2008
Please know...that all of us out here...are not buying the "Obama Kool Aid." He is crouched within a giant Trojan Horse that the looney left of the Demo Party is slowly and quietly wheeling toward the gates of the White House. We are all not taken in by this Changeling's slick rhetoric, his constant explanations (is it 4 or 5 different ones now on Rev. Wright, his 60's terrorists buddies and his close association with Tony Rezko?) nor did we miss his snobbish snipping at the middle class who cling to their guns and God when all else fails them. Nor did we miss his wife's dismay at "mean America" his aversion to the flag or his off-guard remarks about his "typical white woman" grandmother. Any journalist that gives this "ticking time bomb" a pass to the White House should be held accountable (at some future date) for this nation's total demise.
Pennsylvania Voter12:40AMMay 15th 2008
http://fldeservesrecognition.com/FL_PetitionMail.html
All of you that feel that this election is not over until all 50 states have voted
with VOTERS please fill out and sign petition at above link. I did, although
I am not involved in the petition drive itself.
I am ashamed of Edwards and those that do not back that all voters votes
should be counted and no superdelegates (even if were for Clinton or not).
Edwards didn't support those voters.
Obama did campaign in Florida up to Primary in millions of dollars of TV ads.
Yet DNC and cronies of Obama keep talking about "rules". Isn't campaigning even through ads against the rules??? No other democrat did.
STAND UP AND TELL THE DNC THAT WE WANT ALL VOTES COUNTED.
WE DON'T BELIEVE IN SUPERDELEGATES, JUST VOTES FROM VOTERS, EACH AND EVERY ONE SUCH AS A DEMOCRACY CALLS FOR.
I am all for a third party candidate if those votes aren't counted or a revote in August when both states have primaries already scheduled.
NO DONATIONS TO THE DNC UNTIL ALL VOTES FROM VOTERS ARE COUNTED IN ALL 50 STATES.
EXISTENTIAL BEING7:33AMMay 15th 2008
YES THERE IS SEXISM IN THIS COUNTRY AND HILLARY AND HER SUPPORTERS FLING IT AT OBAMA AND HIS SUPPORTERS DUE TO HE IS MALE AND WHEN THAT DON'T WORK HILLARY AND HER SUPPORTERS USE THE RACISM CARD AS HILLARY HAD DONE IN WEST VIRGINIA AND WHEN THAT FAILS HILLARY AND HER SUPPORTERS USE THE VICTIM CARD AND FINALLY THE FUNNIEST CARD I'VE ALREADY HAD USED AGAINST ME WAS THE "PENIS CARD" MANY OF YOU HILLARY SUPPORTERS WILL STOOP TO ANY LEVEL TO GET WHAT YOU WANT DESPITE THE FACTS PRESENTED! MANY HILLARY SUPPORTERS HAVE PLAYED THE BIGGEST SEXIST CARDS ON THIS BLOG THAN ANY OTHER! SO PLACE THE SEXIST LABEL WHERE IT BELONGS, UPON YOURSELVES! WE ALL KNOW WITH HILLARY AS EITHER NOMINEE OR RUNNING MATE THE DEMS LOSE DUE TO HER EXCESS BAGGAGE AND HER NEGATIVITY! HER SWITCHING FROM GOOD COP TO BAD COP DOES NOT WORK DUE TO SHE HAS ALREADY PLACED THE LABEL UPON HERSELF ALONG WITH MANY OF HER CO-CONSPIRING SUPPORTERS!
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Davidg8:22AMMay 9th 2008
If the object is to win the nomination, how can it "hurt her" to stay in all the way to the convention?
Obviously, she is staying in because she knows there is still a chance Barack Obama will implode. Better she reap the rewards of his eventual demise than McCain.
I am very angry about this "she must quit" bs. There is nothing wrong with choosing the nominee at the convention. If the democrats were smart, they would know the less of Barack Obama people find out about before November, the better.