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Face Off: Clinton Should Drop Out
Last night in West Virginia, Hillary Clinton came away with an impressive 41-point win over Barack Obama. She shaved his popular vote lead by roughly 140,000 votes, and used her surrogates to continue hammer away on the point that Obama can't seem to win over poor, undereducated white voters. The spin from Camp Clinton is that all of this matters in her race race for the nomination with Obama. But the math--Oh, the dreaded math!--speaks otherwise.From her resounding Mountain Momma thumping of Obama, Clinton netted a total of 9 delegates. That "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" means that as of last night Clinton has suffered a net loss of 19 delegates since Indiana and North Carolina. This morning came word that three more superdelegates were formally endorsing Obama. Clearly, this treadmill is moving faster than its runner--Hillary Clinton--can keep up.
By CNN's count, Clinton now trails by 168 delegates. Newsflash, with four remaining contests, and superdelegates flocking to her opponent, there's simply no way that she is going to make up that difference.
The reasons for Clinton to exit the race are fairly simple: Rally around the inevitable nominee. Stop slicing, dicing and alienating the electorate. Get your $21 million debt repaid by a grateful and flush Obama campaign. Keep your options alive for a V.P. nod. And, above all, prevent John McCain from returning to the White House.
I know that many Clinton supporters feel she should stay in the race because there's bound to be another Obama surprise or two out there. Something big and embarrassing that will irreparably damage him in the general election. Well, if he suffers a Gary Hart-like collapse, Clinton can always jump back in. The party would ring her up in a New York Minute, and she'd be good to go. If they can strip Florida and Michigan of their relevancy, you'd better believe they can substitute Option B should Option A have to drop out before the convention.
Truthfully, I don't think that even Clinton herself thinks she's going to pull this out. Bill and Hillary are two of the most adept politicians in our nation's history. They are surrounded by pros (for the most part) who can work a trick or two with a calculator and a spreadsheet. They know that Kentucky and West Virginia were their only real shot at making up delegates. Maybe they can still manage to cut it close with the popular vote if, by yet another back-room deal, they get Florida and Michigan totals to go in their favor. But the pledged delegate thing is done, and the supers aren't drinking her Kool Aid.
If she soldiers on, she will simply continue to point out Obama's weaknesses. Continue to make her own case. Continue to divide the party. Everyday she does so, she will be making it sound that much stranger when she finally does see the light, pivots and starts working her heart out for Obama in the general election. By then, she may have done more damage than she'll be able to repair.
Recent Comments
(Page 1 of 3)gramdma5511:10AMMay 14th 2008
When will the superdelegates just stop running to Obama,even when he loses!
Thy are showing their stupid heads and I hope it bites them in the a-- when it comes to their re election time. Hillary is the stronger one against Mcclain and they should see that. All the black know is another black is running for president--their kind. They think if he goes to office everything will go their way,but gee everything has to go thru a system that won`t see it that way. Obmaa has alot of negatives and the country is starting to see that,so what are the superdelegates voting his way for?? Beats me ,I think stupidity is taking over and them jumpping to Obama right now. Or is it that they won`t let the Forida and Michign votes count and they don`t care. That also will be posted and people will know what they voted and they can say bye to their posts. Isay the superdelegates need to sit still for a while. Since she beat him in Penn they have gone over to Obama and they clearly send the message to the American voters that they could not care less what the American voter wants!!!
Isabella11:17AMMay 14th 2008
Mr. Obama does not need Hillary Clinton to point out his weaknesses; his immaturity and inexperience are evident to anyone who can think beyond his rhetoric.
The only damage done to this campaign so far has been perpetrated by the DNC and its utterly absurd process of nominating a presidential candidate. If the super delegates are going to look at Obama's wins in the caucus states as a true representation of the democratic vote, they are only fooling themselves.
Without Florida and Michigan in the equation, you and they are all engaging in mental masturbation regarding the math. Senator Clinton has proven she can win and will win the states necessary to take the White House. If the super delegates send a boy to do a woman or a man’s job, they will self destruct as usual in November.
jblsus11:33AMMay 14th 2008
Go Go Kennedy family, democrats/communists. You have finally developed a system where you can bypass the will of the people and elect who you want in the white house...yeah!!!!
Ted in Chicago11:39AMMay 14th 2008
First -
Let us see what Super Delegates do Wed Thursday Fri
Will barack keep up the four a day pace
That will be a key indicator
Second
It is not the spread of HRC over BO that concerns me who wants ANY Dem in the WH
It is BO getting 25% of the vote - despite outspending HRC on the media - offices - and ground troops (any notion he did not campaign is bull)
25%
on top of IN OH TX and PA - are we deaf? Is HRC rude or racist to point out reality - a reality we liberals may not like but is reflective of our country?
Ted in Chicago11:41AMMay 14th 2008
Yes I prefer HRC first and BO second - but I want a DEM in the WH
It is indeed scary when the presumptive nominee only receives one out of four DEM votes in any state for any reason. This was not 2:1 as NPR disguised it. It was nearly 70% to 25% or thereabouts. 25% folks - does that not shout at anyone?
And do the Starbuckers write it off as WV inbreds? Do they not realise there are poor whites - uneducated whites - semi racist whites - blue collar whites - older whites - old fashioned whites - female whites - in every every toss up state?
OH TX PA WV IN have now born witness that four more years of a REP WH and Supreme Court now seem to be in the cards.
Listen well - that laughter is coming from the RNC who are celebrating
Adlai Stevenson here we come all over again and again and again - and anew
When will we DEMS learn that the customer is right - and that we can NOT win a national election without capturing more of the blue collar Dunkin Donuts "old" working (or not working) class vote
No we will not learn
Gore lost
Kerry lost
And now we DEMS seem to prefer to again go down in defeat with our sense of we were better
How many faded loser bumper stickers fit on a Volvo is our new logo
(And yes I drink Starbucks - yes I have an MBA - yes I drive a Volvo)
John11:42AMMay 14th 2008
Uh, jblsus: The will of the people? Obama leads in pledged delegates, # of votes cast, # of states won. How is the "will of the people" being thwarted here? Oh, that's right. It's not YOUR will and you speak for the people. I forgot. {sarcasm}
John in Philadelphia
OBAMA '08
Isabella11:49AMMay 14th 2008
Mr. Obama does not need Hillary Clinton to point out his weaknesses; his immaturity and inexperience are evident to anyone who can think beyond his rhetoric.
The only damage done to this campaign so far has been perpetrated by the DNC and its utterly absurd process of nominating a presidential candidate. If the super delegates are going to look at Obama's wins in the caucus states as a true representation of the democratic vote, they are only fooling themselves.
Without Florida and Michigan in the equation, you and they are all engaging in mental masturbation regarding the math. Senator Clinton has proven she can win and will win the states necessary to take the White House. If the super delegates send a boy to do a woman or a man’s job, they will self destruct as usual in November.
Charlie's Angel12:22PMMay 14th 2008
By November Obama will not be electable.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bd3812VRc&eurl=http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/
This is what, loosely transcribed from the end of the session, RW found to be simply amazing. Shabazz says that Sen. Obama, as president, fits in with Nation of Islam theology, or black liberation theology, that says black people ruled in the beginning and scriptures say "we will rule in the end", that Sen. Obama is a "sign" that Africa will rise next, that black people will rise to glory now, that Sen. Obama is the leading sign of that right now.
Read full post.....http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/
queenie12:46PMMay 14th 2008
Hillary is just the latest reminder of Bill. That has to set the women's movement back. Bill's current girlfriend of over 2 years lives in Ottawa, Canada. Of course, the press chooses to release very little on that relationship. Once Hillary wins or loses this presidential run, the Clinton marriage should finally be over. That split may actually help the women's movement.
SUGAR12:48PMMay 14th 2008
HILLERY CLINTON ONLY WANTS THE TITLE OF PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. ONCE SHE GETS THAT WHICH I AM SURE SHE WILL NOT ACCOMPLISH THIS TIME AROUND, SHE WILL DO WHAT SHE WANTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT. THE CAMPAIGN PROMISES ARE ONLY FALSE PROMISES TO GET TO HER FANTASEY OF BECOMING PRESIDENT. SHE SHOULD GET OUT NOW!!!! BARACK ABAMA HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT THIS COUNTRY NEEDS. GET OUT HILLERY.....VOTE BARACK ABAMA
SUGAR12:52PMMay 14th 2008
SORRY ABOUT THE MISS-SPELLING OF THE NAME OF THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. TYPING TOO FAST WILL SOMETIMES DO THAT AFTER READING SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON FILE. BARACK OBAMA HAS ALL THE INGREDIENTS TO MAKE IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE. GOD BLESS BARACK OBAMA AND GOD BLESS AMERICA. I CAN NOT IMAGINE HAVING TO PUT UP WITH THE LIES, FAKE SMILES,AND IN HER MIND THINKING SHE IS THE ONLY PERSON TO FINE SOLUTIONS FOR OUR COUNTRY. IT TAKES A VERY INTELLIGENT GROUP OF PEOPLE TO UNITE TOGETHER AND GET THINGS ACCOMPLISHED. BARACK OBAMA IS THE ONE TO UNITE ALL PEOPLE AND LISTEN TO THEM AND WORK TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS. SORRY HILLERY, YOU DO NOT HAVE THESE QUALITIES. VOTE BARACK OBAMA
bonbon1:05PMMay 14th 2008
do not blame Hillary for the mess the DNC has brought upon the party, along with obama..
Hillary has shown time and again, that she wants unity.
it is Obama who is the divider, along with Dean and Pelosi, yet all I ever see is that Hillary needs to bring unity back to the party. again the double standard. and again shows that Hillary is the one most qualified.
jam1:16PMMay 14th 2008
All john mCCain has to do is make condi rice VP candidae and that will defintely seal the deal against Obama. Foriegn affairs experience, along with his bi-partisan efforts against an unknown inexperiened Obama who can not relate to blue collar middle america. The rest is history.
Sugar21:19PMMay 14th 2008
This freedom of speech is wonderful! What makes it so great is that nothing bad that anyone says matters. So here is my philosophy. Hilary needs to sit down and hold up a sign that says. "Vote Barack Obama!"
iynaroc021:45PMMay 14th 2008
I guess if Hillary Clinton was winning there wouldn't be all this Obama bashing and the calls for Michigan and Florida to be counted, even though Obama wasn't even on the ballot. Obama is a more refined individual and would have dropped out if Hillary was the one with the lead. Everybody should focus on the fact that Obama is the nominee and it's not going to change. He is in my home state of Michigan today, and frankly we in Michigan are not protesting to have Michigan counted for Clinton. As long as we are seated, the delegates can be split 50/50 because a lot of Michigandas stayed home because Obama was not on the ballot and because they knew their votes wouldn't count. So, please stop crying for us in Michigan, we are fine with the DNC rules.
SG2:06PMMay 14th 2008
Hillary should definitly keep going. After winning West Virginia by a 3 to 1 margin why would she quit. The super-delegates can look at her electiblity and take their support away from Obama and give it to Hillary where it should have been all along. I son't understand the people in this country. After 8 years of a Republican in the White House why are we not joining to put the most eledtable , experienced and knwledgable candidate in the race-that being Hillary. She has proven -especially in the swing states that she can beat McCain. Obama just won't be able to do that. The surperdelegates need to look at the number of people who say they will either not vote or vote for McCain if Obama is the Democratic candidte and believe it! Unless of course for some strange reason the superdlegates want another 4 to 8 years of a Republican president.
vadomingo2:07PMMay 14th 2008
TO QUEENIE,JOHN,SUGAR,AND EVERYONE ELSE , WHO WRITES THAT OBAMA IS THE BETTER CANDIDATE.HILLARY PROVED LAST NIGHT THAT ALL YOU OBAMA WORSHIPPERS AND LOYALISTS,FOLLOWERS ARE DEFINITELY WRONG.HILLARY WON BY 40 POINTS,AMONG ALL VOTERS.YOUR BARACK HUSSEIN MUSLIM FRIEND CAN NOT WIN THE SWING STATES.YOU ARE ALL SNOWED BY RHETORICS ,BIGOTRY,RACISM,DENIAL ETC. GET A LIFE,YOU GUYS DO NOT KNOW RIGHT OR WRONG EVEN IF ITS STARING YOU IN THE FACE,BECAUSE YOU ARE MESMERIZED BY THE MUSLIM OBAMA,WHO ONLY GIVES SPEECHES AND HOPE RHETORICS THAT DO NOT MATTER IN THE LIVES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
MICHELLE OBAMA IS THE WORST FIRST LADY TO BE, NOT ONLY SHE WILL BE THE UGLIEST AND NO FASHION IN MIND(LOOK AT HOW SHE DRESSES,WITH HER BIGGEST BUTT FOR A FIRST LADY TO BE, AND A MONKEY FACE TO LOOK AT FOR 4 YEARS?SHAME ON ALL OF YOU,OBAMABOTS!
SG2:14PMMay 14th 2008
Sorry about the spelling errors in prior post but I do get worked up over stupidity. Everyone has a right to their opinion-that is what makes our country great, but when blind ignorance takes over it is time for people to take notice, stand up and speak out. Hillary is the only person for the Democratic nomination and the superdelegates know it. Perhaps they are jealous of the good Bill did in his presidency or maybe they are just too old-fashioned and don't want to be led by a woman-wait- Nancy Pelosi- well maybe they don't want 2 woman to answer to . What I think is most important is to look at the ability to win and lead our great nation back to where it was before bush trashed it and Hillary can do that. Oabama can run eight years from now. HILLARY is our "RIGHT NOW".
cbleelaw2:16PMMay 14th 2008
Not a very good argument, but David is correct.
O is 17 votes away from an absolute majority of pledged delegates, and has half as far to go as HRC for the whole basket. And the SDs are still coming. He even got pledged out of WVA. Seventeen and it's over, and they are inevitable. After that every one goes to reduce the SDs needed.
She is more likely than he at this point to come down with hoof in mouth disease, as with "hardworking Americans, white Americans" "Obliterate Iran" and the like. She has her own growing baggage like the Saipan sweatshops and the Tan money and Peter Paul. The Republicans will have a much more wonderful time cutting her up, having already discovered in LA and MS that tagging a candidate with O didn't help a bit.
She also can't keep discipline. Yesterday her side denounced O as an empty suit. She will continue to do damage to the party which won't help her.
She can't manage a campaign, which is also broke.
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John in Philly10:50AMMay 14th 2008
David,
Sorry, but I think Denise wins this one, as long as Clinton adheres to Denise's caveats. There are only three weeks left. Clinton has already promised her full and vigorous support for Obama should he become the nominee. We should take her at her word. And, if TC's orgasm-inducing Obama/Clinton tandem come to pass, all of this will be moot.
JB