Pete4:42PMJul 6th 2008

Dave,

I fail to see the basis for your furor. What you are reading as a collosal vaccilation on Senator Obama's part, I see as him maintaining the same position he always has.

The primary source for this confusion has been the misconstruction of his "refine my iraq policy" statement. Very clearly, the mainstream media* made a pretty big mistake in interpreting these words to mean an abandonment of his previous policy of withdrawl. Even you, Dave, are guilty of running with that flimsy angle as evidenced in your previous article. http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/07/04/obama-to-refine-iraq-position/

The point Senator Obama is making here is that he, unlike some others, is open to input from generals and advisors regarding the conditions in Iraq, and is willing to reflect such advice in his Iraq policy. The notion that those comments were somehow "secret code" for a backpedaling on his withdrawl policy is largely baseless. In fact, I'd say such charges are merely due to conservative pundits and operatives throwing ideas against the proverbial wall to see what sticks. In all honesty, you guys are much better off sticking with the whole "lack of experience" angle.

smanek4:45PMJul 6th 2008

The only inconsistency I can see in Obama's remarks is that he has tempered his earlier remarks about withdrawing by indicating he will not let it result in genocide. That was *not* Bush''s policy. Bush's policy has been to irradicate all our enemies, real or imagined before leaving, notwithstanding the fact that in so doing we are creating more of them. We cannot make this country a colony of the United States even if we need their oil. And that's what McCain's plan to occupy Iraq for the next fifty or a hundred years amounts to. Even if the bloodshed stops, that's just plain wrong. If, as the administration claims, we are now winning this war (which it claimed we won years ago) all the more recent we should be able to get out quickly.

CoolAmerican4:48PMJul 6th 2008

Flip-flop and lame excuses for the flip-flopping....
Just what America needs..... LOLOL

Sattmarjo5:06PMJul 6th 2008

Obama has demonstrated once again that he will say anything to win a vote. He cannot be trusted and he makes those remarks to see how people reacts, and then he pretends to be "puzzled". He is a flip flopper who will change his mind according to the direction of the political wind, and then behave surprised at the reaction that his comments receive. By doing that he is just testing the waters to see if he can float or sink. He is not only unqualified, but he is also devious.

DavesRaves5:27PMJul 6th 2008

"I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody."

Bill Cosby

dualdiagnosis6:12PMJul 6th 2008

smanek-
LOL! This is getting so blanking hilarious I can't stand it, my sides are cramping.

This was Obama in 2007- SUNAPEE, N.H. - Democratic presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday the United States cannot use its military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn’t a good enough reason to keep U.S. forces there.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/politics/view.bg?articleid=1012561

you- The only inconsistency I can see in Obama's remarks is that he has tempered his earlier remarks about withdrawing by indicating he will not let it result in genocide.

me- bwahahaha!

marta6:38PMJul 6th 2008

It is appaling to me how Barack Hussein Obama in his "brilliant" speeches can cleverly change around his views to confuse the mainstream. I would like to see him explain in one of his speeches why he will stand in front of our flag while the anthem is sung or pledge of allegiance is said, with his hands and fingers crossed below his navel. Brilliant isn't it?

Ellen6:41PMJul 6th 2008

Another in a series of stupid AOL polls. Never even been close since their inception

marta6:45PMJul 6th 2008

Stupid is as stupid does.....

~Forrest Gump

tom6:46PMJul 6th 2008

Frustrating, Dave, isn't it, trying to keep up with someone smarter than you. They always seem to do things differently. You might try reading the blog above yours

"Inaccurate campaign stories about Barack Obama have been really piling up over the last couple weeks. There was the bogus story of the kid Obama allegedly refused to give the terrorist fist jab, the correction Fox News anchor Brit Hume issued after claiming Obama's half brother had told The Jerusalem Post that Obama had a "Muslim background", and AP reporter Jennifer Loven's assertion that Obama shifted his Iraq position to "withdrawing combat troops could take as long as 16 months" despite evidence that Obama has had a 16 month plan for withdrawal since 2007."

Tell me, were you on top of all these make believe stories, or were you the one telling them?

tom6:54PMJul 6th 2008

Marta, perhaps it is because it is not required

tom7:00PMJul 6th 2008

Seems like the Limbaugh Lemmings never heard the story of crying wolf. We heard so many lies about Obama, I don't believe anything anymore. Don't the Lemmings realize that we are fed up with their lies, why do they think that they need to lie more and better to win?

tom7:04PMJul 6th 2008

I see, Marta that you are inserting a lie into your story, what did you say about stupid is as stupid does? You are not American quality

tom7:07PMJul 6th 2008

Marta, if you are going to lie, try and at least make it plausible, and not stupid...

tom7:37PMJul 6th 2008

Marta, isn't it appalling how you can cleverly change the story around to mislead and confuse the reader by inventing a lie? Tsk Tsk how does it go, stupid is as stupid does? There you go.

viv7:52PMJul 6th 2008

It is abvious that obama is green and making rookie mistakes. He is learning how to cammpaign "on the job". I don't know about you , but I don't want a president who will be "learning on the job". I think Ted Kennedy pushed him into the ring too early thinking that he,Ted, would be around to "help him run the country". That's the closest Ted will ever get to the office of power himself. Just my opinion....

GODBLESSAMERICA8:46PMJul 6th 2008

It is fine to change your position on something if, as you say, facts have changed.

If nothing has happened that would legitimize the change then it is a flip-flop and that person is doing it for ulterior motives.

The Obamanation Socialists are sliming McCain with their typical liberal lies and cheap shots.

Obama is still trying to re-invent himself as an America-loving patriot --- despite his 20-year history of having supported and having been a member of that radical, hate-spewing so-called church of God that supported and honored Louis Farrakhan.

Obama has too many ties to anti-Americans and terrorists.

God Bless America.

Anybody but Obama in 2008.

tom8:55PMJul 6th 2008

I would like t know how a president can have "experience" when any president only serves once. Obviously Obama has great organizational skills demonstrated by his record setting campaign so far. Why can't we expect him to continue? Besides, the presidetn doesn't run the country, Bu sh notwithstanding, what he can do is make speeches to Congress and guess who is the best at that...So I am tired of hearing about this "experience" thing because it is a non issue. There is nothing wrong with learning, contrary to popular opinion here.

Georgette8:55PMJul 6th 2008

Obamas statements are some what confusing to say the least. Through out all these months, I still don't have a clear picture were this person stands. He makes a statemen one day then a few days later he's trying to explain away what he really meant. I have come to notice this has happened more times then not.

Seeing I'm an Independent who has been sitting on the fence for many months, I still do not have a clear picture of excatly what he's going to do to clean up the mess Americas in, let alone what he stands for.
I know where McCain stands and from day one I knew where Seantor Clinton stood.

Perhaps, this is the out come of a person being slected and not elected.

tom8:57PMJul 6th 2008

Well, Marta, its been a while, why don't you tell us about your lie? Come on, it will take a load off your mind.